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WolfForce58205
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[2004-12-24 05:46:04 +0000 UTC]
"my gallery is offensive"
(United States)
# Statistics
Favourites: 46; Deviations: 348; Watchers: 224
Watching: 13; Pageviews: 48388; Comments Made: 4814; Friends: 13
# Interests
Favorite visual artist: Zhon; LilMissDoeEyesFavorite books: Blood and Chocolate
Favorite games: Okami (PS2), The Sims (PC), Portal (PS3)
Favorite gaming platform: Playstation 3
Other Interests: Taxidermy/Pelts, the Moon, Most Animals, WOLVES, Water, Nature, Anime, and more!
# About me
I'm a 26-year-old gal who simply loves beautiful things, whether it be someone's art that's wonderfully done, or the beauty of nature.As you can see, I like fur. I LOVE animals. However, even after death I still see them as the beautiful creatures they are/were.
To those who think I hate animals, or don't do anything to help them, I ask that you don't put that stigma on me. Pretty much daily I sign petitions to get more protection for animals and habitat. I am a paying member of the Sierra Club and the National Wildlife Federation, plus I donate to other organizations or efforts that help animals or habitat. I do my best to buy my fur and bones from ethical and humane sources (and support FRIENDS, not COMPANIES). I advocate for animal welfare, volunteer with rescue groups, am currently employed as an animal services officer where I help and find homes for animals nearly every day, do what I can to live more eco-friendly while encouraging others to do the same, and truly care about the world I live in including its other living members (whether they be plant, animal, or other humans). I love animals, I just don't stop loving them after they die.
If you would like to see my drawings, dream catchers, random pictures, and maybe even a little jewelery, please visit my main account, wolfforce58 =)
Current Residence: Nevada
Favourite genre of music: Alternative/Techno
Favourite style of art: Realistic
Skin of choice: Fur?
Personal Quote: "You are the moon and I am the stars, so no matter where you go I will always be near."
# Comments
Comments: 273
A furry and a taxidermy enthusiasts? Have i found the
perfect friend? xDD
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Lol, YAY, I assume you're also a furry and a taxidermy enthusiast!
Funny enough, over on Discord someone just recently made a Vulture Culture server specifically for furries who are also Vultures (not the animal, but like, into dead stuff). So....if you're into VC and on Discord, I'd recommend it! (I have no idea how to get the link for it...)
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Your gallery is beautiful! I have a strange spiritual connection with your art, it's so exotic.
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Aww, thank you for such a huge compliment! ^_^
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you hunt these animals yourself? they look awesome
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No, nothing in my gallery was killed by me (a couple skulls were found by me though). But thank you.
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ah, okay, I thought there was another hunter on here XD, oh well
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Haha, nah, but I think there's a hunting and trapping group on here?? Not sure. I wish I could hunt, but I don't have the patience for it, and I'd feel bad about pulling the trigger, lol. For some reason it's so much easier to deal with fishing and raising food animals (now if only I could raise some deer...venison is amazing o-o; ).
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treu yeah, ok then thank you
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I leik ur stuff
Seriously, I love it! All those pelts and skulls make me jelly! And to those people who think taxidermists and fur collectors hate animals.. Well, they should all take a look at your page! I commend you, ma'am! *le deep bow* *rolls away*
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Ah, no problemo! 
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I just wanted to commend you on your fantastic debate skills, it can be fairly difficult(particularly on the masses of the internet) to find people who are respectful of both sides of an argument despite their personal opinion. So your voice was very uplifting to read!
So thank you, for being an awesome person!
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Happy birfday Wolfforce bby! Hope you have a good one darlin!
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Since I've been blocked for apparently being " disrespectful, ignorant and insulting", (can't really say how but I guess that's the beauty of perspectives) I couldn't reply unless it be here.
To make my counter point, it was in fact obvious since in my initial comment, I was referring to the victinity of using animal bodies as means of other than what is necessary. Since skinning is one of basic requirements. So that's was a bit nit picky but I digress.
Having higher conscious does not grant us any more or less right to tamper with nature. Let alone when pointed as art. Being a social function is irrelevant, for it's nothing but that, only a social need which is nothing short of a secondary need. Fundamentally making the act unnecessary, unessential.
I wouldn't count taxidermy as being a tool for a concern of the animal future, because you're implying that without it, somehow we would be stone cold apathetic towards them. As if it's the only prerequisite.
I do partially agree but would also add that all aforementioned practices serve for nothing but decorative and social purposes.
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Oh, sorry then that I replied on there! 
And I guess I just didn't see that in your first comment, or it didn't stick to memory by the time I saw the rest of the comments then. Ah well, you explained what you meant anyhow. If you ever get into one of those spots for whatever reason again though, I'd recommend saying "mounting" for the process. Because nit-picking and confusion, lol.
And no, it doesn't innately grant us anything really, but we take full advantage of it all the time in just about every aspect of our lives. I mean, the internet is completely unnecessary for us when we really look at it, but here we are, using it to talk to one another at this moment, despite the environmental damage and habitat loss and animals directly killed just so we can have electricity and computer/smart phone/whatever you use parts =/ If we went off of "we shouldn't do this because it's unnecessary" we'd lose quite a lot of things that directly and indirectly harm other living things (plants/fungi/etc., animals, and even other humans). Art may not be necessary as a primary means of survival, however it can help you live a more full, enriched, and even longer life. Happiness isn't necessary for survival either, but if you're happy compared to stressed you'll live longer. Connecting to one another through art (though art doesn't need to be the connection, as there are other connections) is vital for existence as well. The longest living people/cultures on the planet have a few things in common, one of which being great social connections with other people. Plus creating art is just one of those kinda feel-goods for a lot of people, haha. It doesn't need to be done using animal remains, however it's kinda hard to say our synthetics are a better alternative considering how much stuff that is used is derived from oil or other harmful synthetics when you follow the "how was this made?" trail. Comparatively speaking, more animals are estimated to die on our roadways than by hunters. The US alone kills more land animals for meat than all of the fur farms in the world put together on an annual basis for our over-consumption. (and yes, I know that two wrongs don't make a right, lol, just comparing to give a grasp of the situation is all)
And no, I didn't mean that without taxidermy we can't have compassion/interest/study of animals. Haha, no "if ___, then ___" statements here XD Just that it can help. Because sometimes it's just easier to study an animal that isn't trying to run away from you/fight you when you poke it, or see an extremely illusive animal that you've been curious about when it's not hiding in its natural habitat on the other side of the world. Though a lot more can be studied and learned from whole dead carcasses, I'd argue (where would modern medicine and practices be without previous use of cadavers??). Buuuut that's off topic, heh, not art!
Also, do tell, how is protecting one's self from the cold decorative?
(fur clothing, which is comparatively warmer than any synthetic as well as freeze resistant and even water/snow resistant)
Protecting one's skin from danger when doing things like riding a motorcycle?
(leather -fur without the hairs-, pound for pound, hands-down have the best skid rating of any other material out there, thus making it not just fashionable but the safest thing you can wear)
Carrying around items?
(bags and such, just look at the prevalence of leather alone)
Protecting your feet?
(shoes...leather shoes are fancy and functional. My cheap leather biker boots do me much more than my nice hiking cloth ones, without falling apart!)
Using tools?
(bone and antler tools are still a thing, not like they used to be though, of course, but in certain cultures or with certain people they're still used either out of preference, resourcefulness, or even necessity)
Using bones, pelts, and mounts to educate people with an interactive, hands-on experience?
(I've had the pleasure of taking my collection to my school, an exhibition, a kid's camp, and just out in general public, and I've gotta say it's much easier to talk about how opossums aren't just some "pest" creature you might see in your yard, or how wolves are wonderfully intelligent creatures when you have something real for people to touch, examine, and study. The only other time I've managed to get kids that interested in learning about an animal is when I've had the live animal right there in front of them)
It's not all flashy fur coats and big trophy mounts, after all. I will be the first to say that alternatives do exist, but they come with hidden costs as well.
Ugh sorry my comments are so lengthy v_v
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Well I'll give my best to shorten it down, maybe try and even it out or something.
We do use the internet, and it is a secondary need, of course. But that's not affecting any animals or even humans for that matter directly. Surely it can when you speak of roundabout ways. Believe it or not, that is a matter we can't control. You could apply that mentality to everything. I could say that I was deeply hurt by your words and I would go on and commit suicide.
I know, I know, it 's a vary extreme example, but my point is that you didn't intentionally drive me to suicide even though you choose to send a comment to me. Same goes for the internet argument, we use it, but not for the purposes or cost of anyone life. Taxidermy is exactly the opposite and the same goes for the importance. While being a secondary need, we did however shape our lives in accordance with technology, we still use it to achieve various thing. For taxidermy, in order to be accomplished, animal needs to be killed or if already dead, dismantled for the sole purpose of art. Or as previously mentioned, easier to study, which I don't see how since you only get a visual image (which to me is not worth tampering with another being) and would be summed up as convenience. Also something not worth of "mounting" an animal.
On the argument of art, I'd say that using art as any excuse, or reason (whichever you prefer) is fallicious.
Whether it brings happiness to someone is irrelevant since it's a matter of subjectivity, and once again, because it makes someone happy, I still wouldn't count it as being a coherent reasoning. Hypothetically, stabbing people in the gut can make someone else also happy, does it make it right?
Other thing about art is that it really means nothing in general terms. Art bringing happiness is the equivalent of money bringing it as well.
It has as much value as much we give it.
Maybe I did miss a few points, but that's because I tried to narrow it down to a smaller discussion. I guess I was partially successful.
The one great fundamental inquiry is: Is it really worth killing or mounting a dead being just for the sake of knowing?
The idiom "live and let live" comes to mind right now.
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Taxidermy usually isn't usually the direct cause of the animal's deaths though. Around here on DA, you'll see a lot of people who work with roadkill, pet breeder/store casualties, zoo/sanctuary casualties, animals raised for meat, or feeder animals (like feeder mice for snakes). In the larger world, I know a lot of taxidermists work primarily with hunters. Most hunters hunt for food with the mount being an afterthought...plus it's illegal in many places to waste any usable parts of animal carcass ("wonton waste" I believe is the term used?). Taxidermy mounts are expensive. I've seen maybe a grand total of...one fur farm that would cater to taxidermists. For animals like coyotes or rabbits or raccoons or skunks other "pests" a lot of it comes from "pest control" (since ranchers/farmers aren't very fond of competition, and people don't appreciate certain animals around their family/pets/homes). There's a good chunk of pelts that come from population control efforts (whether you agree with such practices or not) that are sometimes even hunted by government employees. I've even talked to people who obtained some of their pelts from government auctions, where the government seriously sells poached or otherwise confiscated animal parts to make back some revenue.
This isn't to say that all taxidermy is a secondary consequence; there are trophy hunters. But even trophy hunting has interesting aspects. My own father has a boar shoulder mount, which he hunted for a trophy (and some meat), but in reality what he did was help take down a very harmful, extremely invasive, non-native animal. In Africa, it's controversial, but the fact stands that in areas where they allow hunters to trophy hunt animal conservation is actually better with stronger populations. People don't always realize the boatloads of money they spend on their hunting trips are actually going to conservation. It's almost the polar opposite of so many other things we do, where we don't think there's any negative consequence to plants/animals/the environment from our actions but really there is (hunting you'd think would be bad, but because of how it's been set up with careful conservation efforts in mind it actually ends up helping animals). I've killed more animals by driving my gas powered car (directly and indirectly) than I've ever killed so I could skin something out and use its body for artistic purposes (a grand total of...0 animals, so far? Though I plan on killing my 4 chickens for meat soon and will be giving the skulls and feathers and feet to a friend to make into art).
As for dismantling the animal after it's deceased, that's a personal issue. I know when I die I want my body to be used in every way possible, so I personally have no problem in seeing other carcasses meeting a similar end. Everyone has their own preferences. And you can Google search how cadavers help medical and science fields (we sure didn't learn about the circulatory system by looking at live, whole human beings!). And to repeat, taxidermy isn't only about art (though taxidermy is a form of artwork). Heh, it's kinda like scientific drawings. Artwork in and of themselves, but they serve other purposes as well if applied the right way. Whether you see it as "worth" mounting an animal or not is also personal preference, so not much we can discuss there since we obviously have opposing viewpoints and probably won't get far.
True that art only has the value we place on it. But my point still stands that it brings people together. Cultures use art to express themselves and separate themselves from the "other", building stronger bonds within their communities to form social ties, better group cohesion, and for the individuals involved who fit in with the in-group happiness, the basic human need of inclusion/belonging (see Maslow's hierarchy of needs: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mas… ), and for individuals involved longer life spans. I know that I personally would like to live above our basic needs (food, shelter, water), but maybe that's just me then? Once an animal has passed, the spirit is gone. We're one of the very few species out there that even cares what happens when a creature dies, and possibly the only species that cares about the dead body of a species that isn't even our own.
And personally, for me, I'd say it depends on what can be learned. Risks versus rewards. Are we killing a critically endangered species because we want a pretty centerpiece in our hallway, or are we killing a common and overpopulated animal species people regard as pests so that we can learn more about cancer and hopefully how to cure it? Okay, sorry, extremes here, haha, but really I just can't see things as black and white that way. It all depends!
And I'll stop there before my comment gets too long again
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Before it gets too long?
What exactly is your idea of 'long' anyway?
I guess there really is no point in this since we stand on the very opposite sides of the spectrum on this.
At least we very much agree to disagree.
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Oh, my comments can get VERY long if I let them XD I blame high school for having minimum page number requirements on essays, thus promoting being long-winded, haha. A lot of people complain my comments are too long.
But sounds good, the agreeing to disagree. Thank you for the nice thought-provoking discussion 
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I got the package of the fur scraps the other day. 
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Yay, hope you enjoy it! ^_^
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I do. 
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hello, can i ask you a question? Where do you get your pelts and such?
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Sorry for the delayed reply!
I usually get my pelts from other people on DA. Very rarely I might get some from eBay or Moscow Hide and Fur (like...this has happened maybe twice each). Moscow is a great website if you're looking for a place to get pelts/parts. There's also Glacier Wear, or even sellers on Etsy. I also buy from thrift stores/second hand stores on occasion, or from a local trade store (Obsidian Designs in Grass Valley, CA, or Phoenix Obsidian Designs on Facebook). Personally I think it's better to go with the whole 'reduce, reuse, recycle' trend with furs and keep current ones in circulation rather than create demand for more, haha. Other people on DA would be better go-to's if you're looking for new/exotic furs.
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