Wolvercorte In reply to J-LE7 [2017-12-15 18:13:54 +0000 UTC]

Hello there, it is the Flaming eagle of St. Wenceslas. This coat of arms had been used by members of Premyslid dynasty, who were the dukes and later the kings of Bohemia  

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J-LE7 In reply to Wolvercorte [2017-12-15 18:19:31 +0000 UTC]

I knew about this dynasty, but I wasn't aware of the coat of arms.

How do you name the red feathers/flames in heraldic words?

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Wolvercorte In reply to J-LE7 [2017-12-19 09:12:00 +0000 UTC]

Not sure. I'm not really an expert about blasoning; especially in english. But I can try and I think that you'll understand.
Argent, an eagle black, arms (the beak and talons, am I saying it right?)  gules (there is a version with arms golden/Or), semy of flames gules. 
In Czech we describe the coat of arms as follows: Černá orlice s červenou zbrojí posázená/posypaná červenými plamínky ve stříbrném štítě. Although in Bohemia we often call if just "plamenná orlice"/"flaming eagle". Some even say the Premyslid egle is supposed to be the phoenix. 

The legend about why exactly the "flaming eagle" goes like this: The bohemian duke Břetislav I. had been given this privilege by the Holy Roman Emperor himself "to mark the way to the Emperor's court by fire"- so he got the "flaming eagle" as his coat of arms. Benes Krabice von Weitmühle says that "it's a custom from time immemorial that the bohemian dukes and kings had been coming with fire and through the flames; thus, since the time immemorial they were allowed to carry this coat of arms"

(Sorry if I mismatched some tenses, It's quite hard to translate into foregin language a text that is in 600 years old version of the czech language )

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J-LE7 In reply to Wolvercorte [2017-12-19 20:53:37 +0000 UTC]

OK, I searched, I found...
 
"Silver, an eagle sable bordered with blood drops gules."
I don't like it.

I prefer : "Silver, an eagle sable bordered with flames gules."
Flames match the legend.

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Wolvercorte In reply to J-LE7 [2017-12-21 17:44:56 +0000 UTC]

That's great!!
I was wandering about the right way how to describe the Premyslid coat of arms too as there is, in my opinion, quite an unusual figure.
Thank you for the opportunity to help you in any way. You're doing amazing stuff. 
Any chance to see the eagle after you complete it?  

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J-LE7 In reply to Wolvercorte [2017-12-21 23:14:47 +0000 UTC]

Thanks a lot!
 

I'll submit the picture in January...

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J-LE7 In reply to Wolvercorte [2017-12-19 20:48:36 +0000 UTC]

Thanks a lot!

I even found this CoA (for a Wenceslas, if I read well) in an old manuscript, the Passionale quod dicitur Cunegundis abbatissae.

As far as I know, the semy is when a small pattern is repeated over all the surface, such as:

and I only see flames around the wings of the eagle.

Unfortunately, the only one who could help us (being Czech and knowing heraldry) is the guy I want to send this CoA as a surprise New Year postcard.
And I always write the heraldic description...

Well, I have to find by myself.

Thanks again for your help!
 

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Wolvercorte In reply to itifonhom [2015-09-21 18:54:35 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome, you are doing beautiful artworks!

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Wolvercorte In reply to Somaritan [2015-09-12 21:35:31 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome! I thank you for your beautiful artworks! 

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