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Ok now, this is most certainly a very odd one out - & it doesn't go with anything I've done so far, mainly because of someone else being in the picture, so I titled it as completely separate digi painting piece.The headshot was referenced from where Loki lies defeated, bruised & battered after the Hulk 'unfriended' him as some put it. Many have painted it & I never intended to do so myself - not only for that but the tragic feel of that scene. But then I found this image of a b/w model shot, & thought I could use that as reference instead for it, with Loki resting his heavy head on that someone's shoulders, giving him comfort & closeness. A literal shoulder to cry on.
Yes, the hair was there, & the other guy is missing, so it can be anyone. It's as is. This was in fact almost perishing on my computer months back, for the fine hair I got tired of painting in after the facial marks already. But I finally got round finishing it, & what was once a colourised study, evolved into a multi-coloured image, red, green & skin tones - after I found it rather bland & quite a few 'purple studies' already.
First I wanted to title it Solace, but then I added tears very late, to give the scene an even more 'evocative' feel, & Tears was born. Guess Loki never had that drink with Tony, though he probably did. Or maybe that is Tony. Or Thor. Yeah, if anyone then Thor.
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He looks a bit purple, but yeah, he definitely needs a hug.
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Hi, I just want to let you know how amazing your Art is. I'm in love with your work.
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Why thank you! 
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Hi, this is just pure amazing.
Very very nice! It's so emotional and he looks so real and beautiful and accurate . I wonder if he's saying anything here or just crying which is why his mouth is open? O.o haha
Anyway, very nice! I was just wondering, is that white fluff (next to the green part) the fuzzy cover of the bed, or is it his body? I'm sorry, I don't mean to be rude, I just stared at this art for 10 minutes trying to figure it out but I don't wanna ask you incase you find it rude. :C
But the drawing is asdfghjkl! Stunning! This is FAVED! Haha
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Well, he could be talking to the one he's leaning on, yes, or indeed just have his lips parted as in the original ref screenshot. He's no doubt in pain here, but more spiritually than physically, since he's being comforted, very emotional. Open to interpretation.
Thanks for faving!
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Wow, very nice 
Hey btw, do you remember me? XD It's okay, I don't expect you to. Tbh, I didn't notice we've talked before until I checked my main comments on my page and seen that we've talked so much about Loki and Thor and Thor 2 and Tyr in Thor 2. XD (It's the second comment on my page, I believe, just in case you wanna read it to remember.) Anyway, it was kinda cool seeing all our predictions and opinions of Thor 2.
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I remember you, I never forget a good chat or 'meta' partner.
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Haha yeah! We were pretty close actually! XD
But... Tyr was in the movie!?? Which part? I've seen the movie so many times and yet I didn't notice him. I thought that Marvel decided not to have him so that they'd bring him in Thor 3 or something.
Haha yeah I loved the ending. 
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Tyr is named by Odin once, but never mentioned as his (actually) eldest son or explained who he is at all. He seemed more a soldier than family in TDW. No idea why Marvel messed with character so badly. marvel-movies.wikia.com/wiki/T… He might reappear in TR, tho.
Oh I know, everyone had rather Odin go than Frigga, but then Loki could not have impersonated him & taken (over) his throne at the end.
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Oh wow yeah now I know which parts you're talking about! I also saw the deleted scene but I never realized that was Tyr. Disappointing, really, that they'd bring in Thor's oldest brother and yet not acknowledge that! Then what's the point of having him, I ask? We don't know, the people of the world answer. Lol
TR? 😖 I feel horrible cause I keep asking you many questions, but what's that? Haha guess I never changed! I had also asked you what the Prelude 2 was back then and now I know!
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Not to worry. 
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Ohhh... Okay! Thanks for informing me!
Hahaha it's definitely a Loki 4! No question about that 😌
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TR will come out in two yrs only, tho. Oh well. BUT, before that we get a load of new Tom films! Three alone this yr. 
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2 years "only" lol XD too soon! It should be 2020 when thor 3 is released
Wait!... So there's Crimson Creak (I think it's what it's called), King Kong... And... Hmm... I'll have to wait and see lol.
And I don't think it's just a cameo. I think it's gonna be longer
Cameos don't take 3 weeks, they take like 3 days maybe.
(At least let's hope!)
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Oh yeah I know, two blooming yrs, my poor Loki-starved soul.
Yeah, Crimson Peak in October (so late!), High-Rise before that & the Hank Williams biopic he just finished. Some TV stuff hopefully they still need filming, & of course AoU. Kong will only be filmed this yr on Hawaii in March for a few months, & not come out b4 next yr. Or even 2017, like TR, he'd needed to start filming next yr only.
Well, he had only a couple days last summer in between films when he did the extra scenes, not weeks, so I doubt it will be more than a cameo. If that were the case, they'd by now admitted he IS 'in' AoU after all (in order to generate more interest/sales), after everyone denied it. It can only be a cameo they added after he indeed was not to be in it, just like they added the throne room, & end scenes in TDW with Loki & Odin (& Loki was NOT to be in TDW AT ALL, mind you). And the extra scene with that guard (Loki). After SDCC made it clear they WANT more Loki, afraid they'd kill him off (they by then HAD, & then changed again). Tom had no time & we knew what he did when, & there was only a week in between where he vanished to LA.
But, we'll see. There will be reshoots this month anyway, apparently with Tim too, so there could be a bit more. Elba said he had a scene with Loki & Thor filmed last summer, & it was only a couple days, not weeks. Even if they added more now, it might just be an extension of that already filmed bit, or a bit more complex, or for another film (since some think he'll be in the Infinity Wars too, I'm not too sure about), or TR (most likely), as extra credit scene, or flashback. But yeah, we keep speculating each time with Loki, & mostly were well off, since Marvel indeed keep tweaking their films even just before a release, & misleading trailers, so anything's possible.
BUT, what would be REALLY cruel after all the rumours, Elbas's teaser slip, possibilities & many ppl going to see AoU only for him, if Loki's REALLY not in it. I'd think Marvel need to explain stuff before it comes out in May, or else some fans will lay siege to their HQ & raze it to the ground, figuratively speaking.
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Hm.. maybe you're right. Maybe it's just a credit scene. We'll just have to wait and see! Maybe the trailer tomorrow will reveal Loki? I doubt it, but that would be nice.
Yeah that really WOULD suck if Loki's not actually in the movie. I mean, I don't think there are people who'd only go to AOU to see Loki, but if there are, they need help, lol! I'm a Loki fan, but not to the point where I would go to an AVENGERS FILM, to see a tiny scene of Loki. O.o
I don't think Marvel would lie though. At least if Loki doesn't end up in the movie, it'd be accidental. Like they needed to cut out some scenes because the movie's too long. Not to purposely get fans in. Cause let's make this clear: There is no one that would want to see Loki and at the same time, not want to see an Avengers film. So saying Loki's in the film won't help them one bit. They don't need to do that.
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Yeah, let's hope the next trailer will give us summin. And if it's just a few seconds of Loki like for TDW, but I doubt it. They usually don't show end credit bits in trailers.
Believe me, there are plenty who only go see a Marvel b/c Loki's in it & are otherwise not interested. Many go watch them for Cap only, or Stark, Thor. Why not Loki. It's perfectly fine. And it's not always 'fangirls' either. And trust me, if Marvel said Loki IS in it, they'd sell more tickets instantly. If he's not they'd not say he is, no. They haven't said he's in it, but why then should Elba say so. He could have gotten get fired over leaks like that.
None of the Thor movies were 'too long', they cut the Loki scenes not to make him even more sympathetic. Avengers was over two hrs, Thor 1 & 2 was hardly 100 mins. That's why so many fans were pissed off about that. All the cut footage had made it up to a good two hrs exactly. Had nothing to do with length or trying to stuff in another showing in the cinemas. They even cut out lines in mid speech from Loki scenes, but leave Thor's shirtless, utterly out-of-context scene it. Ppl would go see a film no matter how often a day shown. They'd come back if need be. They'd sold more tickets & DVDs had they not cut the shit out of it & left it as the director intended.
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Idk... I *really* don't believe that the movies would get more tickets if Marvel or someone in the cast said Loki was in it. Anyone that loves Loki, is most likely also a huge fan of Avengers 1 or Marvel in general. Therefore there aren't a lot of people that'd see Avengers JUST for Loki. And MAYBE if there are... it'd be like .000001% of the viewers lol, so it wouldn't affect the box office at all.
It's the same with Spiderman joining the Marvel universe. The host of AMC movietalk said that Marvel wouldn't get a single extra dime if they added Spiderman in the avengers or in the universe, because there is almost no one that loves Spiderman, that wouldn't see Marvel movies anyway. So if it wouldn't work for Spiderman finally becoming part of the MCU, I'm sure it'd be the same with Loki who's probably going to only appear for like 2 minutes!
Don't get me wrong. I LOVE Loki. he's my favorite character and villain! (or anti-hero XD hehe) but I still wouldn't say that I'd watch AVENGERS just for 2 minutes of him.
Yeah I agree. :/ I seriously wish they wouldn't cut out so much from the Thor movies. I never understand why they do that! I heard it was because they want more showings in the theaters, but if that's the case, then I lose some respect for Marvel for thinking about money before the movies' quality. >
I don't know if you noticed or not, but Marvel also cut out scenes from the Thor 2 PREMIERE! In the premiere of the movie, I remember when Loki's dying and he says he's sorry, and Thor says "shh shh it's okay. it's alright," Loki actually genuinely smiles at Thor and says, "I know
And also in the premiere, Thor falls on his knees when Loki is impaled. Then they fixed that in later showings because Thor was already on the ground. But I'm mad about the smiling part. D:< I wish I could see that again! I understand why they took it off. Because Loki was supposed to die for real and that was going to be his final genuine scene, but it became half a trick, so they changed that to make Loki less "good." Nothing pisses me off more tho. I hope that for Loki's ACTUAL death (Idk if it's in Ragnarok or not) that they DO show a genuine smile again and that they are going to make up for what they took off.
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Oh I'm only going by what I see ppl say here & there, so they must be plenty who'd only go see a film for a particular character. So yeah.
Marvel 'said' it was for more showings, but why then didn't they do it with Avengers, hm? The bigger box office grosser? Nah, just don't want Loki to steal Thor's thunder, ehehehehe. Taylor was rather miffed about the cuts, & Branagh was no happier with his film being cut short.
I know, they cut TDW to bits, changed scenes, shortened them, & there was an entirely different Malekith part with him & Odin clashing they changed too that would have shown Odin solely responsible for Frigga's death & Bor's past actions coming back to haunt him. But nah, let's just take it to 'the stairs on the left' & mislead ppl into thinking it was Loki's fault. They also had two different scenes of Loki dropping his illusion, one with hair like in the 'scream' scene all tousled & open & the one they used, with the hair neatly combed back. That's why some of the trailer stuff is not in the final cut, they changed stuff around & shortened far too much.
Either way, Loki did die, & then came back, & it wasn't a trick. He meant what he said, sure to die. But then SDCC happened & they changed stuff around big time & added extra scenes, to bring him back. And now it's all a big mess. There needs to be a director's cut.
Not sure if Loki will die for certain next time round in TR, some think he'll be back in the Infinity Wars, but even if so, as per comics, he'll always return. Somehow.
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I really want a director's cut too. :/ I believe there was a petition for one for Thor 1, but it went nowhere. *sighs*
And I agree that Loki meant what he said, but I'm not sure if he died for real or not, though. I know that Loki's illusions disappear when he's touched and Thor was holding him and he was still the way he was, but we saw the little hint when there was green light and it showed Loki had illusioned himself into a guard and left Svartlefheim through his magic, so I'm not sure if he went to Hel and made a deal with Hela and all that in that short time. I don't know how he did it, but I don't think he actually died. Hmm...
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Oh I know, the director's cuts petitions were utterly ignored, tho Taylor in fact said in interviews we should to do them, but shamefully Marvel ignored them all.
Oh Loki died alright, Taylor said so & he was to STAY dead. The death scenes is still the same after additional shoots, & how he turned grey, & that was it. Gone. There were no more plans for Loki, & he wasn't even supposed to BE in TDW at all. But as I said, then SDCC happened & Marvel reconsidered AGAIN, he was resurrected (in some yet-to-be-officially-explained form) to get Odin's throne, added scenes, & b/c they needed him for TR as major player, & it seems Ultron, & maybe even the Infinity Wars as was reported.
No, Loki died, something restored him, either b/c of his Jotun form or something on the planet that helped, or even the Aether, & then he decided to change into the guard (he had impersonated b4 to annoy Thor) to get back to Odin once he awoke, found himself all alone, remembering Thor said he'll talk to him for what he did here, sacrificed himself. This had nothing to do with Hel, or any tricks, tho he said he will see Kurse there. Never happened.
Taylor said he then forced Odin to tell him something only they knew to convince Thor it's his father, after he revealed himself to Odin as the guard 'reporting that body', & stashed The Allfather away somewhere (after he obviously got the upper hand somehow, or Odin fell into the Odinsleep again in shock (after what he did to him in Thor & TDW) & Loki took his place). Thor left for Earth none the wiser but happy with daddy's nice send-off, & now faces Ultron.
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"Taylor then said he forced Odin to tell him something only they knew???" Oh that's fascinating! And so true! I always wondered how Loki knew about Thor telling Odin "I will never be a wiser king than you."
Gosh, can you please tell me where I can find that interview of Alan Taylor? I really wanna see that.
You know I always had this theory that Loki originally was supposed to turn Jotun (when he dies for real, I mean.) but because it turned into a scheme, they made him turn gray, because Loki would never truly show Thor his Jotun form. They DID say they had completely different ideas of visuals of him when he was going to die for real, in that scene.
Although I wonder why they made him gray and not just normal, once they decided to change that. Maybe you're right. Maybe he DID use the aether? Who knows.
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Oh boy, that was was ages ago, 2013. And could have been Feige, actually. Was during an interview for TDW & he explained to ppl how Loki could know, who specifically asked him about that. Which also points to Odin being still alive, & of better use to Loki that way.
Ah, but remember, technically Loki is Jotun AND Aesir (Asgardian), & they simply couldn't decide on how to make him look dying/dead as 'himself', NOT either part of them. So they turned him grey like Humans turn when dying, but with Jotun-'like' lines, & then stay grey as we do in death. It wasn't b/c of any schemes or not showing himself to Thor (he did to Heimdall), but b/c Loki is basically a hybrid, & let's not forget that is how he looked in the first cut, nothing changed there. They just couldn't settle on how to literally render him dead, & so let him retain some Jotun-like 'death lines' AND Aesir form utterly unique to him, & therefore wouldn't look fully Jotun NOR Aesir even in death, especially after Odin turned him into an Asgardian, OR Loki changed himself into one on his contact being a shapeshifter on top, adopting Odin's own (specie's) look. All that combined made him look neither/nor at the end, BUT like HIMSELF.
No, not use The Aether, but being affected by it somehow, &/or the planet, also 'grey & dead'. But, my best bet is b/c he is that unique a Jotun/Aesir cross, he restored himself, unbeknown to himself that he could, never having died fully before in this twin-form.
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Hi sorry for taking so long! I had finals, I didn't even have time to breath. DX
Wow that's very interesting what you said about Loki's death. I actually went back and watched the movie because I was so excited to see that scene again! XD
Is that s theory you have or did Kevin say that?
I watched an interview where Alan said that Loki was supposed to be very dead in that scene but they decided not to do that because they didn't have enough time or something??? So I'm not sure if what you said is correct or not, but it would definitely be very cool if it is!
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No worries, we all have a life outside DA.
Not theory. Feige said that to explain it to ppl on how Loki knew what Thor said to Odin at the end of Thor, when he impersonated Odin at the end of TDW. Then they changed it around after the massive SDCC success for Loki to come back after he indeed was considered dead-dead, seeing that Tom/Loki is so popular. They had plenty time, they were finished with the film & Loki was never to come back. (He wasn't even to be in TDW at all at first, but changed that after too many fans demanding more Loki.) That's why they had the reshoots with Hopkins & Tom (& the guy who played the guard) so close before the release, & added the Loki/Odin show-trial scene, the (Loki) guard-with-Odin one, & of course Odin-changing-into-Loki scene. Feige said what I said, & Taylor also that he loved (the idea of) Loki being dead, but loved it just as much that they brought him back, alive. So they did. On popular demand basically.
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Wow that's very interesting. I like it.
Tbh I wish they'd made Loki turn into a Jotun when he's "dying" but then I also understood why they did it this way instead.
It's also kinda fascinating how Loki demanded Odin to tell him something only him and Thor know. What's super cool about that is the fact that Loki DID get an answer, which means he had Odin down. That odin was desperate and he had to follow his orders. This makes me so excited for Thor 3! Ahh
I wanna know what look did to him! (If you know, please don't say because I don't want that spoiled. It's still 2 years away so
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Yeah, it would have been cool to see Jotun Loki, but the whole grey lines thing made it even more intriguing, & open to interpretation.
Oh I don't know actually & they won't let that slip either, but since AoU directly connects to TR from TDW, there won't be much changes to their looks anyway, maybe a little update on the costumes like b4. I'm hoping for a new badass helmet & cape to go with it!
Exciting indeed - Odin powerless, Loki with all the power, & Thor having trouble on Earth because of Stark's misfired experiments. But alas, yes, two yrs.
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You know what, I wish they'd go back to their helmets. 
But they stopped because it makes them uncomfortable and unable to do the scenes well. Hate that tho... The characters feel different without the them.
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Absolutely! The helmets are so badass, we need them back, bigger & shinier.
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Hehe Ya I agree 👍
But if RDJ doesn't complain about his iron helmet and the suit he has to be in, I don't think they should either.
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RDJ wasn't wearing any of that for real much or only in part, but a DGI-dot suit. The actual armour then was computer-animated on later, just like the helmet, & it's plastic. But Tom did wear a full helmet tho plastic too, & all that heavy leather & cape, but still very heavy in contrast for the massive horns. It all gets too hot & cumbersome. i.stack.imgur.com/PndD8.gif
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Oh, my bad! I thought RDJ also gets into a suit-looking-costume. Nvm then!
And I guess it's also not fair for Tom that he had to wear the helmet for 2 movies but Chris only wore it for a short scene. So technically it was only about Tom being as comfortable as Chris, nothing else.
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Tom's kit was the most difficult/heavy/hot etc. to wear, esp. with the helmet & cape, & he needed to be stitched into it sometimes to make it all fit perfectly & then cut out again, & like Chris, had water-cooling-pipes running under the chest pieces, or they'd overheated & passed out in the hot studio lights esp. during fight scenes.
What a job.
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Yeah I know. Very hard job! Can't even imagine how they strapped Tom and swung him from side to side to show the hulk-loki scene
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IKR? Was very hard physically to do, & his own stunts, & he got knocked about plenty times, & hurt himself too. Hope he got paid enough this time round.
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Seen the Crimson Peak trailer, surely?
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Yeah. It looks so weird and creepy, but it looks cool. And I'm glad Tom has middle-lengthed hair again like he did in Thor 1. XD I know that this isn't a Thor movie but whatever haha!
What did you think of it?
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Oh it looks MARVELLOUS, & grandiose, & indeed creepy & lovely Gothic & all handsome & Sharp[e]! 
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Haha yeah! I'm also excited to see it! I probably won't see it in theaters tho. I'd feel more comfortable seeing it at home
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Tee hee. Yeah, why not. I'd LOVE to have private viewing, so I can re/act the way I feel, not show restraint in a crowd.
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This breaks my heart, but is so beautiful I can't pass it up.
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