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Diakron79 [2012-03-20 14:02:15 +0000 UTC]
Alebireo, I saw that sequel too & it's agreeable. Alan & TRON would've been effective if it had a simple, but effective plot. Do you remember Jayce & The Wheeled Warriors?
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violinisthamel [2011-04-11 08:37:59 +0000 UTC]
I really do wonder just how the movie would have been if Alan were to have gone on the Grid instead of Sam.
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Alebireo In reply to violinisthamel [2011-04-11 10:05:15 +0000 UTC]
I think the Fact Alan still had that pager says he would have gone to the Grid to save his friend.
You know Alan wanted to hear about Kevin at the end of the movie it was written all over him. But he didn’t get his much deserved answer. Left out of the loop he should have been in already.
“The least Kevin could have done was given Alan a message” God knows the man needed it
If Alan had gone to the Arcade instead of Sam, or heck both of them there and gotten sucked into that trap. (I think it was meant for Alan to begin with) But the dif would have been more climactic, especially when they first meet Rinzler. That would have been wicked to see Alan with Tron for the first time .
I also think Alan would have been greeted by Flynn with a Hug on the scale of Tron’s hugs
I also think Alan would have been badass and quickly adapt to his hacker style . Would have been amazing to see what sort of moment/Insults/jokes Flynn and Bradley would be the subject of.
The Meeting though Of Tron and Alan would have been really cool, would make my Tron fan circle complete, You have CLU/Flynn and Tron/Alan oh epic-ness to the digital jazz and beyond.
They said there is an alternate ending when Qourra runs into Alan and recognizes him as Tron, which makes Alan think , also Alan was thrown a jump drive with the keys to the arcade and Sam Asks him if he can fix it.
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violinisthamel In reply to Alebireo [2011-04-11 17:36:23 +0000 UTC]
Oh it was definitely meant for Alan, that's why CLU paged him. Alan wanted Sam to go because he felt that he had more of a right to see if his father was there than Alan.
Wait---alternate ending?? o_o I have not seen this!
Interaction between Tron and Alan would be so awesome, I'm not sure how he'd react to that one, bewildered and surprised? Freak out? With Alan and Flynn side by side, they'd kick so much ass in the Grid but I think Alan's age would be the downfall, he's not very athletic looking >.> anymore...
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Alebireo In reply to violinisthamel [2011-04-12 08:43:54 +0000 UTC]
I thought immediately it was for Alan if Clu had them both it would have been hell on earth for the grid, because Alan is the control for Security , the ability to attack.
Alan is younger than Kevin, he’s more athletic than you think, The guy who plays him Bruce he too is younger than Jeff Bridges , he gets around in films he’s insanely tall also XD
They did Motion capture not only On Bridges face but on Bruce and I mean the full standing in the light globe yelling screaming saying iconic lines for hours, they have all that for TRON.
I don’t know why they didn’t use it..
You know I think though just Alan’s presence on the Grid would Cause chaos amongst security programs that try to touch him. Clu would love to capture him, Imagine Sam getting away But Alan figuring things dif gets stuck with Clu. Clu would use Alan as bait also Sam nor Kevin would leave him there. Alan being also the light of the system would cause massive awakening of security programs that had been put in lock down like Tron. I would even think Clu would lock Rinzler up with Alan to see if anything happens.
Fireworks!
As for the TRON and Alan being together, Tron would Fight and Alan would hack defense Offense. Would be awesome!!
Alan does know Tron looks like him, because of the comic books and games Flynn did.
I have been working on Drawings of the both of them tag teaming together
As for the alternate ending I hope it’s on the DVD they said there are a couple, but those bastards always leave us with torches and pitchforks asking for more XD
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violinisthamel In reply to Alebireo [2011-04-13 14:58:03 +0000 UTC]
Was he younger than Kevin? I thought they were around the same age. I know that they're a year apart IRL.
LOL CLU locking up Rinzler with Alan xD that'd be interesting.I can't wait to see your tag-teaming pics 8D There's just so much speculation of what could have happened which I think helps Legacy <3 as for the alternate ending on it.... I haven't seen all the special features to know : / Makes me want to set my ps3 up again and look, actually I think I'll do that
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Alebireo In reply to violinisthamel [2011-04-14 04:46:12 +0000 UTC]
Yep he's younger than Kevin!
Yes Rinzler
*Alan playing with codes in cell*
Alan: "Well this is interesting, YEP Kevin Created this all right, Its a damn mess!"
*Ripping data fragments apart*
"Got more bugs than a bait store" XD
*Rinzler peaks around a corner trying to figure out why that man is soo familiar starts sneaking up on him to see what hes doing, Alan doesn't realize hie's beind him and ends up whacking him in the forehead causeing a moment of clarity for TRON to realize who its is in front of him*
Alan: Ouch what the hell was that
Rinzler: "ALAN_one!!!! *Clings to Alan* >3 wtf moment On Alans part. . . .
Yeah I myself went hunting on the DVDs (Got the 5 disc set with the original movie and things) and the suckers don't have the dif endings. .. Bastardos! but I was pleased they hinted Kevin Called called Zak and IsoThinker Alan-Tron just made my day.
Yeah those pictures are damn hard but they are looking cool!
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violinisthamel In reply to Alebireo [2011-04-14 16:59:19 +0000 UTC]
haha xD I think Alan would be kind of "O_o??" with him being called Alan-One. But the moment of meeting would have been awesome.
Awesome!! I got the same one, the 5 disc bluray collectors right? I'm not too happy how they packaged it being all on top of one another, could have at least made it like one of those rounded CD holders with flip sleeves.
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Alebireo In reply to violinisthamel [2011-04-15 06:54:41 +0000 UTC]
Alan: What was that *Tron Squeeze*
Rinzler: :3
Alan: Lemme go before you choke me to death, USER NOT PROGRAM! *Tron drops Alan continues gentle hug, Alan is very Confused*
Alan: I thought you were the bad guy, you are offly friendly for a
*Rinzler at attention*
Rinzler: You are my User Alan One!
*Alan rubbing his neck moment of Clarity*
Alan: Alan One
*Turns to henchmen and pokes the helmet thinking*
Rinzler: Alan One My User, You gave me my purpose I'm TRON
* O_O dead silence*
Alan: No kidding
*Points to T on chest*
Rinzler: No kidding User, Oh here let me take this helmet off CLU put it on pretty good
*Plop of the helmet and cue Alans Heart attack*
Flip sleeves don't package well, chance of scratching during shipment is extreme,
You know I wish the would just go digital and put movies on jump drives, there is no scratching and its 10 times more portable
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violinisthamel In reply to Alebireo [2011-04-20 14:13:51 +0000 UTC]
True, but there is also the risk of people pirating them easier that way. While it would be a lot less compact and you wouldn't have millions of DVD cases and VHS tapes, it's also hard to show off your movie collection and someone be extremely impressive seeing a million DVD cases and VHS tapes.
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Alebireo In reply to violinisthamel [2011-04-20 23:27:49 +0000 UTC]
yeah it just sucks no matter how you put it, VHS tapes were pirated (Remember brothers in the garage)
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violinisthamel In reply to Alebireo [2011-04-21 05:24:19 +0000 UTC]
who says DVD's aren't pirated too? >.>
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Alebireo In reply to violinisthamel [2011-04-21 18:46:29 +0000 UTC]
I know they are, I was saying even back in the 80's VHS tapes were pirated
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HenshinDaisuke [2011-04-11 04:44:28 +0000 UTC]
Nicely done, and ya kind of a bummer that Tron proper wasn't in the movie but his corrupted program in the form of Rinzler or however you spell his name was and we got to see him quite a lot so I didn't mind too much.
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Alebireo In reply to HenshinDaisuke [2011-04-11 07:09:53 +0000 UTC]
I agree with you, I love Alan-Tron so much better, I hope this isn't their way of trying to faze the original out. (TRON is iconic he is TRON because he is Alan Bradley it would so stupid if that’s what they are doing for a new generation)
Rinzler I adored because he still maintains some Tron like qualities. Tron after all is the humanity in the form of a program, even when he fights Sam he held back seeing Sam tire quickly and ultimately when he moved in for the finishing blow he did not, because the blood confirmed his nagging suspicion. Old Tron vowed to protect the User, User to him was outsider of flesh and blood so he stopped upon seeing blood because he recognized it as User that Tron quality no matter how dark he had become still shone through.
no matter how hard CLU tried he could not change Trons’ face for personal reasons or technical reason unknown. Though Tron was the creation of Alan Bradley rendered him untouchable he can only be reprogrammed by Alan. Then the question is why he wasn’t just destroyed to begin with. That’s where personal feelings come into it. Alan Bradley and Kevin Flynn in the real world were close Friends often to the point the two could not be a separate entity at ENCOM one without the other was unstable. When Flynn Created CLU he did so in his mirror image. I think that saved TRON and was CLU’s deep weakness.
So Tron just needed a jolt to scramble his code back in line and let his soul come back together, That’s what you seen at the end when he heard Flynn’s voice the instant recognition of A Close friend (not only of Himself but of His user Alan) he had been trapped for so long in hibernation it took a while but eventually the mask he was trapped in cracked and he was back conscious and fighting off that Virus that turned him into Rinzler. He reboots when he falls into the sea of simulation showing he was successful
I had hoped he would take the mask off (I was very disappointed when he didn’t, looking forward to those blue eyes of Tron. I went to see the movie because I expected to see Tron ) to see the familiar face that defines the Grid and all that’s in it.
So I pray the real Tron will be present in the next film instead of his voice for a couple of lines. Along with his User.
I am very much an addict XD
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HenshinDaisuke In reply to Alebireo [2011-04-11 18:06:19 +0000 UTC]
LOL Wow that was quite a reply, one of the reasons I got Kingdom Hearts 2 was because TRON was in it. After seeing the new movie I hope that if/when they get around to a proper Kingdom Hearts 3 they update the Space Paranoids world to look like the new one.
Anyway I was a little annoyed at not seeing his face except in the one flashback but you got to figure that Boxleitner is getting a little old and might not have wanted to do a lot of action scenes in the film. Which is a shame I've been watching quite a lot of Babylon 5 lately and am really hooked on his acting skills.
I went back and re-watched the old film before watching the new one and one thing I kept thinking, "Where is Yori?" it would have been interesting to see her again. Might be interesting to see a new Sark based on Edward Dillinger Jr. this time around. Maybe a new MCP type program or something could be interesting too.
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Alebireo In reply to HenshinDaisuke [2011-04-12 08:07:54 +0000 UTC]
Yeah I'm a little crazy for TRON XD
Bruce did do the face capture, he actually did ALOT, they went to all that trouble of putting his face on a computer for Tron it really like they wasted the motion capture by not Showing Trons face, I honestly think it would have been ok.
Bruce is younger than Bridges, Bruce also gets around pretty well if not 10x better than bridges. So I don’t know why they didn’t do that. Maybe to much character wash out. T-T
I think he would have gone on and done it if they wrote his character to do so, even If it turned out he was hostage of Clu, Still would have given him enough presence on the Grid to be satisfactory . Well all know Alan’s a Hacker and improviser , would have been neat to see him in a Quarantine cell figuring out he can do things , Or Rinzler as his guard constantly looking at him peaking into the cell trying to figure out why Alan looks so familiar. (Can see Alan messing with Bits and data trying to get through security protocols) something as simple as that would have been awesome ) Makes me want to create a version like that in comic/written form like what if story
Boxleitner-I love that man >3 his acting awesome! His voice acting is even better.
Yori <3 I know, But Alan’s Girlfriend left Encom. Only Tron was taken because he’s the security program. But I know Trons Girlfriend was awesome
Kingdom Hearts 3 I’m hoping for more Tron in there also, with KH2 I remember hearing that game music and screaming, my sister didn’t know what Tron was till I showed her the old movie I watched perhaps a couple dozen times in my mom hospital room in the 90’s . They use to play it on MTV movie hour all the time.
Ahh Sark XD
The old movie Yes! I love it so much, another person they left out was RAM , he was Alan’s cubicle pal he loves popcorn XD
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HenshinDaisuke In reply to Alebireo [2011-04-12 22:40:33 +0000 UTC]
RAM got derezzed didn't he? Anyway I tend to re-watch TRON a couple times a month lately, and Alan really should have had more screen time. You sen the trailer for TRON: Uprising, it looks like it is going to be cool. I rather liked the bits it lets us see in the trailer (even if it isn't much).
Which Program style did you like best the ones in the original movie or the one in the new one? Oh or did you like the style from the TRON 2.0 game more?
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Alebireo In reply to HenshinDaisuke [2011-04-14 05:08:36 +0000 UTC]
Ram did get derezzed but his user is One of Alan’s friends and he stayed with Flynn and Alan. So it would have been neat to see him back, But I guess Kevin was more into Tron being brought over.
I have not seen Tron: Uprising I am still a little skeptical about them trying to replace Tron with Beck . Because you can’t Replace Tron unless you have Alan, Tron is suppose to the constant in the entire Grid, So I felt threatened by that aspect.
Call me crazy I want TRON to stay in the series because he is TRON I would watch it seriously if no original was there specially Tron. I’m looking forward though to see what they are trying to do, Elijah wood as Beck will be interesting.
But I’m an Original Tron fan and for Me Tron=Alan and the original
As for the Program style. I like Original Tron and Tron Legacy those seem like the more balanced types, Though because Of Clu we didn’t get to see the wide range of Programs that you would in the Original. Have you read the Comic Book? It has the programs and things before Clu took over and it was just Kevin and Tron.
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HenshinDaisuke In reply to Alebireo [2011-04-14 05:25:54 +0000 UTC]
Haven't gotten around to the comic yet, I still need to find it somaplace. I was thinking of looking for a copy of the comic online but not sure if I will.
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Alebireo In reply to HenshinDaisuke [2011-04-14 07:51:40 +0000 UTC]
Comic is pretty good TRON: Betrayel goes into how Tron Was on the run around the Grid from Clu afyer being wounded pretty badly, amd into the ISO's I support buying a copy that way it supports the Tron movement.
Hell guess what next movie is in the works. Did you see the Extras on the DVD Shows Dillinger is up to no good again him and his son >D
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Alebireo In reply to Beccawolf16 [2011-03-14 17:38:04 +0000 UTC]
I adore Alan I have been slowly working on a better version, I want it right when I upload him
since you like Alan check out this one
[link]
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RenValentine [2011-01-21 01:18:15 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I'd say that's what he'd look like.
Nice job.
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Alebireo In reply to RenValentine [2011-01-21 01:54:57 +0000 UTC]
I have a better version coming out soon XD
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RenValentine In reply to Alebireo [2011-01-21 03:00:27 +0000 UTC]
I eagerly await its arrival.
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mistress-samwise In reply to Alebireo [2011-01-21 05:45:29 +0000 UTC]
I could watch those guys talk back and forth forever. I love it, and it's fun to see what fans come up with in fics and whatnot. I mean, the stuff practically writes itself! It doesn't get any better than that.
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Alebireo In reply to mistress-samwise [2011-01-21 06:30:11 +0000 UTC]
YEP XD
the two are, well just perfect >3
poor Alan would be the victim of Kevin's game addiction
or Kevin would find out he should have never introduced Alan to the GRID XD Tron and him might run wild!!
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Lefuulei-Art [2011-01-09 02:13:49 +0000 UTC]
Very nice! I'm rather fond of this design....
and agree on pretty much every part XD
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Alebireo In reply to Lefuulei-Art [2011-01-09 02:17:31 +0000 UTC]
Thank you, I am doing a clean version, an actual applied finished picture
took me a while to design
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Alebireo In reply to ElenaTria [2011-01-07 23:59:25 +0000 UTC]
Why thank you Alan/Tron all the way <3 <3
I’m very much like Alan when it comes to the whole Lora thing I to would be a tad Jealous XD
Its only human but its darn adorable <3 “I only dated him for his brain” XD *Pouting Alan*
Usually friendships that last till death do us part are ones that had negativity in the start but then they realize they don’t really trust any other person other than each other.
I mean what Type of friend would literally worry about you 24/7, knows what you’re thinking, willing to be crucified than betray you, and is willing to be your child’s Godfather
Bring it on Bromance!
Touches my heart also, it is nice seeing a genuine friendship . . .
Users XD
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Alebireo In reply to kaztielkrafts [2011-01-03 16:13:05 +0000 UTC]
Heh heh Fellow Alan fan *High five*
Yes I too grew up with TRON, I got more into the movie though around when my mother had cancer and had to be hooked up to machines all the time at home, VH1 would play the movie ad least three times a month, So I would watch it in the Hospital lobby,
As of resent I hadn’t seen the 1982 film since my mother passed away in 1998.
But I just recently found an internet copy of the original film (Tell you how hard it is to find on DVD since they quit producing it XD)
And the film is also A personal favorite of mine as well
Alan had always been my favorite him and tron are just GOLD
I heard about the animated series but Bruce said its going to be a sorta Tron getting ready to retire thing so another program is being trained to take over for him thus Tron wouldn’t be in it as much *Rips out hair*
Hell yes Bruce Boxleitner is still a fine looking man, he aged very VERY well
I hoped he had more of a role but alas that didn't happen, they are planning on doing a second film but I dunno if they will have the Actual TRON and Alan
That comic! I have been trying to find it , for some odd reason it’s harder than hell to locate where I live
PS
OH and thank you about the comment on the design, I always thought the reason why Tron was such a special Program was because he retained a lot of Alans personality. also being Tron always believed in his user he has that blind faith in Alan_One.(User name I always use XD)
Tron is very much human and I think that’s because Alan’s own heart went into the making of him, there for giving a sense of humanity in a place of no emotion also a trustworthy friend like Alan is to Flynn and also why Flynn was so attached to Tron
So I like the idea that Alan would Echo Tron if he ever made it to the grid just to show he indeed is part of him and should be known as such
plus its just adorable X3
PPS
If you notice the back of his coat looks like two arms stretching to the sky with the disc above on Alan’s back
Hopefully I can draw something better and more planned out XD
I just uploaded a new picture
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kaztielkrafts In reply to Alebireo [2011-01-03 19:59:04 +0000 UTC]
You're like my new favorite person. XDDDD My family and friends are not really into TRON. They don't hate it. My family had to put up with my taking over the TV every time I knew it was on. Sorta funny really. A six year old seizing control of the remote and plopping their ass down in front of the TV to be glued there for the next three hours or so, because of damn commercials. And if you tried to change it I was like rabid dog. XD And yes! TRON is so friggin hard to get. My mom searched for like three or four years to get the VHS for me way back in the day. When I finally got it for Christmas the year she managed to get it I seriously watched it all day. Just kept rewinding it and starting over.
When the 20th anniversary DVD came out my mom bought it right away. So I have both copies and I will never get rid of either. Especially since the DVD has dialog missing. Which I don't know why that is, but it happens rather frequently with older films. But with the new film coming out my mom figured she'd get herself a copy of the original film and watch it. But no dice because no one has it. So I reluctantly let her barrow mine. XDDD I'm kinda twitchy cause I want to watch it.
And yes! After getting out of the theater I looked at my sister I was like "I'm not the only one who thought Flynn was gay for TRON right?" XDDD But hell, they went through so much together, TRON would die for the Users, especially Flynn and Alan_One. See what you have me doing now? XDDD And I had my little "fangirl" moment, well a lot of those, when TRON was the only program Flynn brought from the old system. The only thing in the new Grid that wasn't made, in part, by him. That's all Alan's work. I'm also a huge sucker for the "rivals turned best friends" story like Alan and Flynn have.
I'm sorry to hear about your mom. I lost my dad to cancer too in 2006. TRON is just... I don't even know. My friends that haven't/hadn't seen it ask what about it I love so much and honestly I can't tell them. I just really love it. Something about it resonated with me as a child and still does as an adult. And your pictures are making me want to take a stab at drawing TRON myself. And I also so want to send you a button I made. It's nothing fancy, but you're like my TRON buddy.
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Alebireo In reply to kaztielkrafts [2011-01-03 21:13:50 +0000 UTC]
Everything in the new system failed except Tron XD Still cant get over that (If alan made it, its sure to last forever) I am such fan girl for Flynn and Alan Bradley Best friend Love, they are like the perfect twisted friendship (Twisted in meaning loyal beyond imagine) I still scream When Flynn Bear hugs Alan and Lora at the end of the first movie
Alan_One Tron always calls to , the fact Flynn trusts in Alan’s program is very symbolic to their friendship in the real world. Alan would jump off a cliff for Flynn (We have proven this to be fact) also that for those short years Flynn was Alan’s boss and made him sleep with a damn pager must have been such a bonding moment. I mean how much more love can you get when Your best friend takes care of your son and put his whole life to the same dreams you had. (Tad Romantic XD)
I am such a sucker for the best friend thing (Bro-mance if you Notice Clu and Tron have the same thing going on) XD after all CLU could not get rid of Tron because well HES TRON and CLU is clu, he had a personal attachment to him just like his user Has an attachment to Alan, only thing he could do was disguise Tron. But thanks to Alan’s programming Tron Serves the Users and has an override program , Like Alan has unbelievable faith in Kevin Flynn (As Sam said) sometimes blind and stupid (But hey friends are that way Innocent till proven guilty)
I like how Alan broke into Sam’s apartment; it’s like saying YES HES STILL GOT IT!
He’s very protective, and the fact against he still has the pager XD
And the fact he always bails Sam out of jail and puts up with Sam who somehow became a hybrid of both Kevin and Alan. Talk about Karma he has the bullheaded smartass genius persona of his father
But also the antisocial soft spoken demeanor Alan has that somehow rubbed off on him , also that understanding and persistence to hold his ground that both Flynn and Alan have in common
Alan understands Sam , since both went through massive Tragic losses , one could say they had been beaten by life and found comfort in the fact they at least could understand each other’s pain.
Sam I think was a tad ungrateful to Alan who as my friend said Took a huge burden on his own to be Sam’s Godfather , he also became the public punching bag and crucifixion sacrifice of ENCOM , his life was committed to doing what Flynn would do.
btw Im sorry about your father , that’s just a dreadful *Hugs* <3 <3
Also Bruce said they filmed a dif ending at the arcade one with Quorra bumping into him
He apologizes to her but she keeps staring at him. Quorra then slips and calls him TRON
There was also one where Sam tosses Alan a jump drive and asks him if he can repair him and have him uploaded to the Encom system (Him being I assume TRON)
Bastards toy with things, instead they chose the ending with a lot of cliffhangers and questions
I would like to see Alan on a light Cycle XD
The Tron movie is one of my favorites just because it is, I dont know either why I love it I just do, I guess its just one of those old fashion good stories, the ones that always make every moment priceless
Oh I am having TRON lollapalooza
TRON BUDDIES YAHOO!!!!
My family says I don’t shut up about it XD
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Alebireo In reply to kaztielkrafts [2011-01-03 21:54:32 +0000 UTC]
Well you know Alan never tried to replace him, it was more he was doing what was asked of him by Kevin
Sam was being a brat, I never acted that way unless I was trying to make a point after my mom died my father was gone all the time working I was alone and raiseing my little sister she acused me of trying to replace out mother when All I was trying to do was help because I worried about her and talking helps to ease things, I've been there. its not just about me, there are other who care that worry about you, prolly how Alan got white hair XD
you think he wanted to be in that role, Would Flynn ever forgive him if somthing bad happened to sam
thinking of others before ones self
and taking the bullshit they throw at you because you care to much
Do you know Alans story? the one they Orginally had for the movie but couldnt fit in?
it breaks your heart in two
PS pay attention to the old movie RAM's User is there in the cubicle next to Alan's he even asks Alan for Popcorn XD
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Alebireo In reply to kaztielkrafts [2011-01-04 17:48:51 +0000 UTC]
Oh ok, I just found out myself when the writer and stuff were at Comic-con and doing promotional stuff, Bruce mentioned the alternate endings (Because well everyone was pretty pissed at the ending) *Rolls eyes* Bruce has been involved with a lot of TRON related things since the first movie in 1982-ergo Kingdom hearts 2 –various voice over’s for Tron and tons of TRON panels.
Well any who they got talking about Alan’s character development over the 80’s and the dif speculations and that blasted (TRON 2.0 with alternate timeline and alternate Alan-if you know that series its dreadful *The whole thing is fan fiction but has been labeled as TRON lore*)
[In that time line Alan looks like some really old guy with a beard, His wife Lora Baines whom he married in 1982 died in freak accident in the lab in 1989 leaving him and his son Jethro (Bad name choice on the authors part) torn apart, his son for some odd reason hates him because of what happened to his mother. I guess it because Alan locks himself up in his lab and grieves in his own way that his son thinks is a lack of emotions, there for thinking his father doesn’t love him and never loved his mother . now a lot older Jet (Jethro) has gotten involved with the TRON program after his father went missing.
He ends up on the Grid Looking for TRON (Who retired) so he goes hunting for him and finds out his father Alan was being held hostage by the MCP, so he breaks him out as they run around searching for TRON and its basically total Bullshit] XD I hate fans who change the story from the plot its not the same without Flynn the two cannot be separated XD
With that out the writers and Bruce went more to Alan_Ones (Bad habit I know) Alan Bradley’s actual character personality, They said they thought about having an intro just for Alan explaining why things ended up the way it did and that he knew what Kevin Flynn was up to (Big surprise there) but was locked out of the system after Tron was fragged and rewritten by CLU, but saying Alan did in fact attempt to save Kevin and knew where he had been all along but his many attempts to locate TRON *Who was disguised as Rinzler* was a total disaster Alan was locked out permanently in the later year of 1989.
Alan did marry Dr. Lora Baines (both were the legal god parents of Kevin Flynn’s son Sam when he was born) After the death of Sam’s mother Flynn’s parents moved in to take care of Sam when Kevin wasn’t around, Alan and Lora were also a constant presence in Sam’s childhood, Alan more so being Kevin’s partner in crime and not having any children of his own was often the one who watched over him at Flynn’s request (Like Alan would say no)
Sam growing up with the stories of TRON and his fathers best friend who TRON is based after made Alan a super hero to Sam (Of course we all know those adults we thought were Clark Kent or something when we were little, like my 3rd grade teacher I swear was a batman villain) Sam idolized Alan and Lora.
Kevin being gone a lot was always working on Space paranoids or something led to Sam being left in the care of his grandparents or the Bradley’s . (Sam later comments in the movie how Alan always covers up for Kevin and has been since he was little)
Early 1989 Kevin was showing signs of slowing down a bit spending most his time with Sam after his mother died, Alan took over for Kevin at ENCOM as CEO for the public events and board meetings,
Alan_One was always updating TRON and Grid composition Security (Kevin said in the movie Alan had built the new System with him and actually had been there when CLU was created, but Flynn kept the upgraded TRON and Alan away from the New CLU so the operating system and Security were completely separate (Ergo how TRON wasn’t destroyed because he wasn’t part of CLU and was a program that could not be rewritten and destroyed unless Alan_One did the reconstruction himself, making Tron the only Program Flynn could not have control over because he was an independent program)
Kevin was on the verge of a major breakthrough or so he told his best friend, that he couldn’t wait to show him.
At that time Alan and Lora were expecting their own child (Long over due for them XD) Alan was suppose to meet up with Kevin the next day (The day Sam was suppose to see him) But he never showed up , Alan calls everywhere in search of him as he said “He doesn’t just disappear without telling me” because Kevin never leaves him be XD
so when he went silent he knew something was wrong.
He kept it quiet for as long as he could but soon told Sam’s Grandparents, he indeed did not know what had happened to Sam’s father. All hell broke loose after the Media got wind of it a second underground takeover was set in place at ENCOM. Alan couldn’t handle it alone what made Encom so great was Flynn and Bradley together, he was bombarded with accusations and constant media scrutiny.
Sam tried himself to go look for his father (Running away into the city) Sam’s grandparents would call Alan to find and talk to him and bring him home . (You know that scene with him running away from his house on his bike) yeah Alan hunted for him in the rain like a mad man when no one could find him, Alan went to the arcade and found him hiding.
He swore Kevin would never leave him like that, that he would come back,
The level Escalated to the point the media went after Sam and his grandparents, Alan and Lora were trying to gain access to TRON but couldn’t
Next part is really sad (They said this part of his story was still sorta up in the air and had not been finalized)
Lora was working on a way to break through the new CLU in the lab at ENCOM, Alan reluctantly let her do so despite maternity leave because she might have the answer to shut CLU down and gain control of what’s left of Tron , but accessing the Grid wall CLU put up a defense using the Rinzler Security program and fried every computer in the lab
She fell and it killed her and her child.
Alan shut himself down in best way to deal with it, it ended up in him being emotionally compromised and he was removed as CEO of ENCOM because he could not provide the whereabouts of Kevin Flynn and persistently lied to the media to protect The Flynn’s from backlash, the loss of his Wife and kid pushed him back into a corner.
End of up in the air
Sam was then the next apparent heir to ENCOM being the largest share holder, the Media and Lawyers attacked him relentlessly. Alan made it a mission of what he had left with his life to protect Sam at all costs, and get him away from the chaos. Alan took him away and hid him with his grandparents
Point being Sam and Alan pretty much were all they had left
Alan taught Sam computer codes and programming (Also hacking to his misfortune XD)
It was a way to keep Sam occupied when trying to figure his father out, also turning Sam into a FlynnXBradley Hybrid (Dangerous if you ask me XD) Sam dropped out of college and disappeared for several years Alan did not know of his whereabouts (He did but chose to stay away because Sam never contacted him) till he turns 27 and jumps off ENCOM building (Pays for all of the bailing out of jail bills)
Then thinks he should intervene before Sam becomes self destructive, he gets the page and hopes maybe that will break him out, (Because it did Alan XD)
End line XD
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kaztielkrafts In reply to Alebireo [2011-01-04 19:31:03 +0000 UTC]
Wow... That's a lot of backstory we never get. Some of it I can see why they wouldn't go around telling people. The whole thing with Lora, for instance. I think a much better explanation would just be something simple, like she can't bear children, which is just as tragic without being slightly convoluted. And not killing her. That's just mean. But they never went into it so I can imagine a less awful story for Alan in that regard. XD While there's still not a lot of that information, because it ends before all that happens, you can see it in Betrayal with the way Alan and Flynn interact with each other.
But yeah, Bruce is, was, and always will be TRON. He's always been TRON. I will only accept a new one when he can't/doesn't want to continue. And even then it had been not be TRON persay. A new program who happens to have the same name and function, but not TRON, TRON.
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Alebireo In reply to kaztielkrafts [2011-01-04 19:55:38 +0000 UTC]
I actually think thats what they went with for poor Alan, because they hinted at it in the acutal movie, But it is life and life does tend to not give a shit about anything, they kill her they said to make it more realistic (Why I dont know, and she can have kids XD I know that in an old scene Flynn bitches about Lora looking for that Man who would actually be a responsible father. . . .ROFL
(That fight never gets old)
Some people just say Alan wasnt meant to be the happy one
Her not being able to have children is kind of cliché
For the sake of the story I can understand the whacking of a character , you got to do something with her
and the fact Alan has no children doesn’t sit well. I mean its not in his character or Lora’s
we don’t like half the stuff they come up with but point is its their story not ours
the point Lora was reckless is the only part that bothers me, and no way in a million years would he allow Lora to do anything dangerous (Because he’s protective) Honestly would have been nice for Sam to have a friend (A Bradley other than Alan) if you know what I mean XD
but they never intended on having Alan's story because it was more of somthing only for Bruce to know for his acting
who the hell was SAMS MOM anywho?!!!
I am still upset they made the series now all about Flynn and sorta tossed tron into the Trash bin while still going under the name Tron
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kaztielkrafts In reply to Alebireo [2011-01-04 21:55:32 +0000 UTC]
But at the same time even though the original film was called TRON and he did play a major role, it was always Flynn's story. So that didn't bother me. I just would have loved to see more TRON, which is why I love Betrayal. All the TRON I could want. XD And of course some Alan_One as well. I even told my sister, while I liked TRON Legacy and the moment it hits shelves to buy I will be there, if they'd made Betrayal the movie I think it would have been better. At the same token I understand why you can't, because your two leads aren't in their thirties anymore, which is when Betrayal takes place.
And you meet Jordan, Sam's mom, in betrayal. Not very much of her, but I accept her. She's the sort that would let Flynn be himself, understanding and caring, even when she got a little frustrated with him. It makes sense to me that Flynn would be attracted to someone like that. Plus she let him run off and play with Alan. ;D XDDD I'm not slashing... << >> Okay maybe a little. XD
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Alebireo In reply to kaztielkrafts [2011-01-04 22:06:43 +0000 UTC]
Slashing XD nooo maybe just a little
if you actually read the script it wasnt Flynn's story it was suppose to be balanced
I also understand the age problem XD it just would have been nice for a heads up to those TRON fans who wanted very much to see TRON himself
I dont like the idea of rebranding TRON
as for the comic book I HAVE NOT read it because I cant find it in my area, so its hard for people like me who only found out the comic even existed till 2 weeks ago
and I know alot of people who hate comic books but love the movie
its just a stupid idea on Disney's part , because now there are misunderstandings
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kaztielkrafts In reply to Alebireo [2011-01-04 22:35:17 +0000 UTC]
Well sadly you can't please everyone. Me... I'm happy with what I get for the most part because for so long there was nothing. And anything I don't like, hey that's what fanfic is for. XDDDD You should try Amazon.com. I'm sure they have it in stock.
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Alebireo In reply to kaztielkrafts [2011-01-04 22:43:30 +0000 UTC]
Yeah I'm thinking about it, but Im broke right now XD I seen Legacy 3 times and took 4 friends with me each time
I did it as treat for them because they all work so hard and could never really hang out and talk, let alone afford to see a movie with all the stuff thats going on in our country lately, so I wanted to help them relieve stress.
I like shareing movies with friends its the best way to tell them you still love them even when you cant see each other all the time
I feel like Alan in that way
the only way to help is sometimes to be supportive and understanding
I cant get enough of the movie because it gives me ideas for fan fictions , The movie truly sooths my heart and chaotic mind, and the music well I listen to it every night XD
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kaztielkrafts In reply to Alebireo [2011-01-04 22:57:27 +0000 UTC]
I listen to it all the time. My sister even asked last night, "How many times a day do you listen to that?" And I just laughed and said, "You know me. I can watch and/or listen to the same thing over and over and never grow tired of it." Which is true. Since I got the soundtrack on Christmas I haven't listened to anything else. On my computer on iTunes I've listened to the soundtrack all the way through 19 times and Rinzler 199 times. XDDD That's not counting how many times I've listened to it in my car. XDDDD Listening to Rinzler for the 200th time now. XD
If I lived by you, me and you, at the movies everyday to see the film. XD
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