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Almairis β€” What I Understand

Published: 2012-01-10 21:29:33 +0000 UTC; Views: 9523; Favourites: 980; Downloads: 142
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Just how I feel right now. Thank Unicorns that art exist to turn the world into something totally magic and beautiful.
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OtherGender [2012-09-09 20:53:29 +0000 UTC]

which is exactly why stamps with overhashed opinions are on frontpage..

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OracleOfTheShadows [2012-02-12 23:55:50 +0000 UTC]

Guys, all she wants for her art is constructive criticism, not destructive cynicism. What's with the hate?

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RutherArts [2012-01-17 17:59:09 +0000 UTC]

This happens to be the most ridiculous thing i have ever stumbled upon.
But hey, i'm not talking about the picture posted, but all the comments!

What are you guys even fighting about, isn't criticism these days supposed to be constructive? And even the creator is supposed to take it with an artistic eye, and learn to improve on it in the future.
And again. Popularity is always brought into arguements. But why? Artwork isn't about popularity, but it's about passion, and the artists love for their drawings. I mean come on, alot of "unpopular" artists sometimes have alot more passion than "popular" ones, and people just tend to not notice it.

And for those who love spamming peoples artwork with "trolling" comments. Well, we all have them right?
But sometimes, we all need to get our facts straight.
Yes, this isn't a "correct sized" stamp.
But also, it is a small picture expressing some form of opinion. People are entitled to their own. Don't slag them off if they do so.

DA is an arting community for people to express their artwork, and get along as people who have a shared interest in drawing/painting etc.

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P-29 [2012-01-15 03:16:31 +0000 UTC]

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If you can understand that without finding the original page and reading the description or comments, I'll donate the entire contents of my bank account(as of 14 Jan. 2012) to you

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grindilow In reply to P-29 [2012-08-09 11:36:54 +0000 UTC]

It's obviously a pink snow bunny, how comes you didn't see that!

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Kailina5815 [2012-01-13 18:03:38 +0000 UTC]

Yo tenΓ­a unos sellos postales de San Luis PotosΓ­ que eran de 3x5 cm y eran hermosos, igual que los tuyos

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Squid-Cult [2012-01-11 22:39:44 +0000 UTC]

What the actual...just stop.

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Riverstream In reply to Squid-Cult [2012-01-11 23:46:08 +0000 UTC]

Double negatives make me itchy because I think strictly speaking they mean the opposite of what you meant, if you get what I mean. But honestly, no comment content wise, I think your message is fine, I just couldn't help notice the double negative

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Squid-Cult In reply to Riverstream [2012-01-12 01:26:58 +0000 UTC]

What's the double negative, exactly

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popoyon In reply to Squid-Cult [2012-01-12 16:17:15 +0000 UTC]

She was referring to your dA signature: "(...) who don't need no man". You're using negative both in "don't" and "no", therefore it's a double negative.

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Squid-Cult In reply to popoyon [2012-01-12 20:09:04 +0000 UTC]

Ah, I see. I thought she was talking about my comment, seeing as how my signature is completely irrelevant.

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Riverstream In reply to popoyon [2012-01-12 18:06:21 +0000 UTC]

Yep. For example, in principle 'not no' would mean yes. Sorry it's kind of a pointless comment^^"

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RedAngryface In reply to Riverstream [2012-01-17 02:20:09 +0000 UTC]

Spotted that double negative like a baws! Daps man.

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Riverstream In reply to RedAngryface [2012-01-17 18:18:01 +0000 UTC]

lol XD

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DecadentSymbolist [2012-01-11 21:10:16 +0000 UTC]

MAYBE YOU ARE SOCIALLY RETARDED?

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Almairis In reply to DecadentSymbolist [2012-01-11 21:15:58 +0000 UTC]

said the rude one

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DecadentSymbolist In reply to Almairis [2012-01-11 21:17:28 +0000 UTC]

I HONESTLY MEANT THAT IN THE MOST HELPFUL SENSE. HAVE YOU EVER CONSIDERED THAT YOU WERE SOCIALLY HANDICAPPED?

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fluffkomix In reply to DecadentSymbolist [2012-01-11 21:19:54 +0000 UTC]

HAVE YOU EVER CONSIDERED GOING TO SOME KIND OF SELF-HELP GROUP I THINK THAT WOULD HELP A LOT

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DecadentSymbolist In reply to fluffkomix [2012-01-11 21:21:42 +0000 UTC]

THATS A GREAT IDEA FLUFFKOMIX. SEE SKYQUEEN THESE ARE VALUABLE IDEAS THAT MAY HELP YOU.

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fluffkomix In reply to DecadentSymbolist [2012-01-11 21:22:48 +0000 UTC]

I LIKE YOU DECADENTSYMBOLIST, MAYBE WE SHOULD BE FRIENDS OR SOMETHING

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DecadentSymbolist In reply to fluffkomix [2012-01-11 21:24:27 +0000 UTC]

I USUALLY DONT MAKE FRIENDS WITH PEOPLE ON THE INTERWEB CONSIDERING THE FIRST TIME I DID I GOT AIDS BUT, I LIKE HOW HELPFUL YOU ARE TO OTHER PEOPLE WITH SOCIAL RETARDATION. PERHAPS WE COULD HAVE SOME TEA OR JAVA-SCRIPT SOMETIME

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fluffkomix In reply to DecadentSymbolist [2012-01-11 21:27:51 +0000 UTC]

I THINK THIS WOULD BE PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE I DO LIKE A CUP OF JAVASCRIPT EVERY NOW AND THEN BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND PEOPLE, ONLY CODE

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DecadentSymbolist In reply to fluffkomix [2012-01-11 21:29:41 +0000 UTC]

THAT SOUNDS LIKE FUN, PERHAPS DOWN THE ROAD I WILL DIE OF AIDS.

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fluffkomix In reply to DecadentSymbolist [2012-01-11 21:38:55 +0000 UTC]

THAT WOULD MAKE ME HAPPY

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DecadentSymbolist In reply to fluffkomix [2012-01-11 21:45:11 +0000 UTC]

HEART

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fluffkomix In reply to DecadentSymbolist [2012-01-11 21:45:53 +0000 UTC]

KAWAIINE-DESU

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xXxSp4rtyxXx [2012-01-11 20:09:03 +0000 UTC]

And I don't even understand art!

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XakiNyota [2012-01-11 19:31:47 +0000 UTC]

@[link]
Since you deny me the ability to continue my end, I am still posting, whether or not you see it:

No, I was just honestly asking.

I make it about you because you are the one suggesting that it is impossible to only understand art, and not people.
That is similar to saying you cannot understand cars because you do not understand engineers, I don't know the first thing about engineers, but I know plenty about cars.
Perhaps not to a full extent, but enough to consider it an "understanding".

If the stamp read, "I don't understand people, I only understand " You would still suggest it is impossible, correct?

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Angelus-Tenebrae In reply to XakiNyota [2012-01-12 10:45:44 +0000 UTC]

Well, technically, it is impossible. If you make art, you must have some sort of "human" impulse to do so, right? If you notice the fact that the author makes art herself, the initial premises are false, and she doesn't really not understand people at all.

However, what I think she was trying to say was that she doesn't understand a lot of things concerning a lot of other people. And what she does understand of them pertains to art, so maybe she shares a lot in common with other artists, and not so much for other people in general.

If that were true, I think the stamp would be better written as "I don't really understand people, I only understand art".

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XakiNyota In reply to Angelus-Tenebrae [2012-01-12 11:29:31 +0000 UTC]

But even adding 'really' in there can be taken to suggest she has no 'real' understanding, leading back to your same point.

Most people, I think, take it to mean what you have said to begin with since being human must imply some, however remote, understanding.
I just do not think it is impossible since 'understanding' isn't an easy thing to define or measure.
It is possible that the people she has interacted with were so far beyond her scope of reality and understanding that she cannot comprehend them and finds solace in drawing if for no one else but herself and her sanity.

Then again, it could just be an overly simplified version of, "People are weird and difficult and I'm just going to crawl in a hole and doodle for the rest of forever."
The stamp has been interpreted many different ways as I have seen by all these comments, and I sort of just think it spawned from a bad day, not to be taken super seriously down to every word.

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Angelus-Tenebrae In reply to XakiNyota [2012-01-12 18:36:10 +0000 UTC]

The problem with the way it's phrased now seems to imply (if you read it literally) that I don't understand people at all; there's nothing about people I understand. I was kind of hoping adding "really" would make the interpretation more loose. There are different ways of phrasing it though. You could say "I don't understand people completely" or "I don't understand some people", etc. I think the problem with using logic literally on phrases like this is that we often don't interpret or mean what we say literally, thanks to the nuances of the English language and ambiguity (when is the last time you actually believed someone when you ask them how they're doing, and they say they're fine?). Saying " I don't understand people" begs the question, do you not understand people entirely, are there some people you don't understand, or do you understand yourself (after all, you are a person) just not other people? And we deal with this all the time because people don't always put in modifiers like "all", "some", "every", "most", etc. and they don't always intend to imply "all", but forget to include it or didn't think about it, and we are often left guessing or implying what they are.

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XakiNyota In reply to Angelus-Tenebrae [2012-01-13 01:06:28 +0000 UTC]

Indeed, that reflects heavily on the difficulties often posed by the English language. However, as I know nothing of the poster of this stamp, I can only go by what I see.
It says she is from Spain, it is possible her first language isn't English, affording her a slight pardon for neglecting the inclusion of a modifier which would make the meaning more clear in it's... ambiguity.
Then again, it could have been an error in judgement based on how she wished for the stamp's wording to flow, perhaps if you make a formal request she will alter it to suit your needs better?

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Angelus-Tenebrae In reply to XakiNyota [2012-01-14 09:26:53 +0000 UTC]

Perhaps, but I'm not a fan of using stamps, so I don't really care either way.

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BizarreMechanism [2012-01-11 19:24:19 +0000 UTC]

I don't understand stamp.
I only understand art.

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JoJarJam [2012-01-11 19:23:44 +0000 UTC]

That is so autistic-desu~~

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Miss-Panettone [2012-01-11 18:16:34 +0000 UTC]

What I understood was that you look at people's art without caring about the person that did the piece, only caring for the image itself, and not the real meaning behind it. (?)
I don't know, maybe I'm misinterpretating this stamp.

Also I'd like to suggest you to make your stamps smaller because I don't think people will use it if it is this big

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Wonderful-Rose [2012-01-11 18:13:44 +0000 UTC]

...and Art says more then thousand words

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Chuztox [2012-01-11 18:13:24 +0000 UTC]

Oh boy, more meaningless, cheesy prose to send DA into an undeserved frenzy.

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SailorKnightWing [2012-01-11 18:07:06 +0000 UTC]

People really just want to give you a hard time, don't they?

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originalninjajesus [2012-01-11 17:47:37 +0000 UTC]

That could lead to some awkward social interactions...

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Mahiru [2012-01-11 17:26:47 +0000 UTC]

But isn't art a form of self expression? If you understand Art, then you must understand a little bit more about the artist behind it ..xxxox

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JessicaAdams [2012-01-11 17:19:48 +0000 UTC]

True, true. Simply honest and absolutely correct! Make people paper, and the world shall be right. (Well, kinda.)

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fluffkomix In reply to JessicaAdams [2012-01-11 21:15:07 +0000 UTC]

let me elaborate. This is the exact same thing as saying "I don't understand people, i only understand HTML."

However if someone were to say that, they would be labelled an anti-social loner because only nerds code right? This one only gets through some people's radars because it has art as the focus and art is meaningful and stuff and only thought-provoking people are artists right? Of course it's never the other way around, obviously

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JessicaAdams In reply to fluffkomix [2012-01-11 23:14:27 +0000 UTC]

Well, I think it is more or less trying to promote the idea that we get more of an understanding through art than through people (at times.)

I want to think that it has a bit of "read between the lines" put into it in a sense. I have no issues with people, and am a very social person myself, but I have a big comfort in my artwork, and a lot of soothing time when it is just me and my paper and pencils. Yeah, other people can have that sometimes, too, but when it is you and your creativity, that becomes your focal point. (Sorry if I kinda rambled on this one, hah!)

And possibly they could be labeled as an anti-social person, but I know a lot of people who code, design, do art, write, etc., and they are a mixture of many different things, but anti-social is certainly not one of those traits.

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fluffkomix In reply to JessicaAdams [2012-01-11 23:52:10 +0000 UTC]

This is the first good response i have gotten to anything on DA ever that hasn't been from one of my friends. Thank you.

This does make a lot more sense than what the artist here decided as their message, and i'm glad you think this way. However, many people are taking this out of context or, even worse, exactly in context and that's just harmful to their growth as an artist. To really improve as an artist you have to get out and watch people draw, ask them for help, look at the specific ways they hold their pencil or that swooping motion they make with their arm when they paint, etc. It's really hard to be a completely antisocial artist and this stamp is just giving people an excuse to be one.

However, as i've said, i'm glad there are people like you who accept it in a different, more reasonable way.

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JessicaAdams In reply to fluffkomix [2012-01-12 22:36:46 +0000 UTC]

Well, thank you! I do appreciate that compliment!

And yes, it is unfortunate that people see this in a negative light. However, I do not think that the message is meant to be seen as one that is in a negative perspective. No reason for people to see it that way honestly, and I think that that is probably what bothers individuals like myself, and even yourself. I see this message as "yeah, my art is what I understand, because in my mind it is far less difficult than some of the people in the world", but at the same time, we have to remember that the people out there are who make US better artist's, so in a way, they both go hand-in-hand, just not side-by-side. Perhaps, again, I am rambling, but I would like to think that I am making some sort of sense out of it.

But you're absolutely right. Going out and asking those people questions helps you to understand art in a more passionate and serious way than trying to figure things out on your own all the time. That can lead to frustration, a closed mind, and no new experiences. Just have to give everything a try!

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fluffkomix In reply to JessicaAdams [2012-01-12 22:43:43 +0000 UTC]

I like you, i really do.

And i completely agree.

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JessicaAdams In reply to fluffkomix [2012-01-13 11:19:57 +0000 UTC]

Hah! Well, I shall take that as, yet, another compliment! ^^ Thank you!

And I figured you would, but still, people need to not look into dissecting things as much as they do, regardless of being an artist or anything else (since there are too many careers out there, I wouldn't dare think of naming them all off here!) Nevertheless, I still love this stamp, and fully understand the true meaning behind it.

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fluffkomix In reply to JessicaAdams [2012-01-13 20:29:04 +0000 UTC]

or at the very least your own very good interpretation of it, and that's good enough for me!

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JessicaAdams In reply to fluffkomix [2012-01-15 16:47:44 +0000 UTC]

Well, again, thank you very much! Nice to have a good conversation every once in a while when inspired by a piece of expression(art).

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