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Okay I LOVE the background drawing I did! I looked at the old pages and this one looks so GOOD!
Poor Kaidan and Liara, my Shepard couldn't be less interested...
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Yup love hurts more than getting stab in the heart
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You're right to be proud, the background is very nice, and so is Liara'smile! I really like that part.
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Thank you! Liara is much easier to draw than Shepard b/c she has more soft expressions where Shepard has to be tougher or bitterly sad. I'm glad the background turned out good
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Don't worry there's more to come.
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*crosses fingers and toes in hopes for ME3 Shakarian*
Yes, I love Thane. But if he's dead, shouldn't Garrus and Shepard have the chance to be happy with each other, if that's what they want? Just sayin. Love the comic so far, really great moments/emotions. 
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I don't know about this Shepard, but I have another FemShep that will romance Garrus and I'm gonna try to be Renegade... That is so not my character...
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Sounds interesting, though I'd love to see this Shepard find happiness, after all that pain.
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Wow, this comic is fantastic so far! I just finished reading the whole thing
(The Shepard and Thane romance is my favorite
I can't wait for the next page!
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Thanks! comments like yours really makes me want to keep going.
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When it comes to romance I am always ALWAYS stuck between Liara and Tali.
WHY IS IT SO HARD TO CHOOSE?!
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Tali, the adorable scientist girl or Liara the adorable historian. Hmmm if I was a dude I would go with Tali
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The title caught my eye. Thane wasn't my favorite character but I do think his death should have gotten more recognition. It was weird that no one mentioned it.
And very nice drawings. The lines are clean and the composition is easy to follow.
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Thank you for the feedback, I'm always worried the most about if the comic is easy to follow so I appreciate it very much.
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Everyone has their own opinion on who is best, but i think that Liara is the best! I'm a big FemShep x Liara fan. Still love this comic, please keep it going!
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I'm trying and thank you
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liara is imo only good romance through all the saga, then dextromances and special ME2 romances, especially Thane and Jack.
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I'm not much of a Liara fan, when I played as a male shepard I picked Liara because Ashley and Kaidan were too similar and Liara was the one left over.
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Ashley is so lame
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I find her romance somewhat misogynistic, so I heavily disagree. I much prefer Garrus's
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dextromances have only problem with lame scenes from BW 
still, you cant bang dextros in ME1, what i hate.
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I actually prefer that they're not romanceable in ME1. Both of them have a lot of growing to do before I feel they're kind of ready to engage in a relationship with Shepard. TBH I don't think Liara was at that point either I guess.
(I just rly dislike Liara's romance)
Ah, you mean in terms of how much romantic scenes they get? Yeah in that case Liara triumphs all, but I think that her relationship with Shepard was just cliche and in a lot of ways kind of sexist in the way it was done.
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No, it would be sexist in case of romance allowed only to MaleShep
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no it's sexist cause it fetishizes liara's virginity and she stays a loyal little dog to Shepard even when Shepard can treat her like complete shit in ME1 and just be a huge asshole in general - even when Liara doesn't usually stand that sorts of persons.
That's not a healthy way for a woman to approach a relationship with anybody (male or female) and the fact that Bioware portrays that as romantic really creeps me out.
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all heroes in ancient saga must have beautiful virgin
after all, isnt Tali much more a sterotypical virgin hero-girl?
and no offense, but i know many couples, where one is totally dominant and one totally submissive, it doesnt matter who, but boy/girl really can be an asshole and still have love from partner 
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I'm sorry but I was so disgusted at your comment I don't really know where to begin
All heroes in ancient saga must have beautiful virgin.
And you don't realize how wrong, antiquated, and misogynistic that is?
Ashley/Kaidan looks also without much experiences with relationships.
I haven't romanced Ashley but from her talks about her sister, she obviously knew what was healthy and what wasn't in a relationship. So no, she's likely not inexperienced.
Kaidan outright mentions that "it has been a while since I've been with a woman" so he does have some experience at least. And from what I've talked about to with some of his fans, he does dump Shepard if Shepard behaves too much like a jerk in the first game.
after all, isnt Tali much more a sterotypical virgin hero-girl?
Tali's virginity makes sense in the context of her species. Liara's does not.
Secondly, unlike Liara, you can spend an entire game getting to know her before she is romanceable, and it's not off the bat. Plus ME2 forces Shepard to be less xenophobic anyway. It's Shepard that has to approach Tali about it, not Liara going "omg there's something special between you and me."
Thirdly, you still need to do Tali's loyalty mission before she becomes a romance option, and you have to do it correctly. And you still have the chance to lose it after the confrontation with Legion. There is a point where Tali puts her foot down and tells Shepard to fuck off. Unlike Liara, she has a spine when it comes to Shepard.
Fourth, Tali still makes it very clear that her people > Shepard. Multiple times. Hence the above^^
and no offense, but i know many couples, where one is totally dominant and one totally submissive, it doesnt matter who
Yeah, there are plenty of relationships like that, but that does not mean they are good or healthy. True love and a healthy relationship is experienced by two people who see themselves as equals.
but boy/girl really can be an asshole and still have love from partner illogical i know, we can both disagree, but its a real world.
My problem with Liara/Shepard isn't so much that Liara can be romanced by renegade Shepard.
(Even though it doesn't make any sense, because Javik basically is renegade Shepard and she has no problem telling him he's full of shit. It's clear Liara should not have any love for renegade Shepard given her personality and character.)
My problem is that unlike Tali (see what I mention above) Liara never questions Shepard, never yells at them for his behavior, and just follows and loves them blindly and eats out of their hand even when given her morals it doesn't make any sense she would.
If she was more like Tali and actually drew a line somewhere, had an event where depending on your choices she would put her foot down and said something like "Shepard you're an asshole and I don't want anything to do with you for this," or if she was only romanceable by a paragon shepard, I wouldn't have so much of a problem with it. The fact that she really has no spine when it comes to her "love" for Shepard is not healthy and frankly how Bioware and you think that's somehow okay is creepy and disgusting.
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or if she was only romanceable by a paragon shepard
Well, BW didn't do that because it'd be unfair. There are many renegade Shepard players that like Liara too. If they were obliged to be paragon to romance her, they'd not like that.
If you think about it, Liara isn't the only one that behaves like that.
Thane had similar behavior (just a bit similar, not identical). I tried every single dialogue variation with him, and he always ended up confessing his feelings for Shepard, even if she acted like an asshole.
All you can do is to turn him down when he does that, just like you can do with Liara in ME1, though she'll still be available as a romance in the other games.
We can't compare the fact that in ME2 you have to do the loyalty mission to be able to romance with ME1, since the 1st game didn't have loyalty missions that unlocked extra content in the game.
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Samara is only romanceable by paragon Shepard, even if it is a more minor thing, so it's not as if it would be the first time Bioware would do that.
No, Thane doesn't have the same behavior. You still have to do his loyalty mission for him to fall in love with Shepard. Liara is in love with Shepard regardless of what you do and what you behave. Also Thane is far more of a morally gray character than Liara is, so it makes a little bit more sense he'd be in love with Shepard so long as he feels Shepard helps him.
It has nothing to do with gameplay, it has everything to do with the fact that Liara is delusionally in love with Shepard and it doesn't matter if you make Shepard the biggest asshole in the galaxy she is still in love with him/her. You don't have to win her over like you do with all the other LIs.
And it wouldn't make sense that Liara can behave like this around a full renegade character, and then suddenly give Javik - an obvious dark mirror to Shepard - shit when the same words come out of his mouth. It just makes her look like a hypocrite.
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Samara isn't romanceable, you may try, but she'll reject.
Of course you need to choose the paragon choice to try to romance anyone, but you don't need to act paragon in the rest of the game to do it.
And you are still comparing ME1 with ME2, if you turn down Liara in ME1 and try to pursue her in ME2, you are obliged to do the Shadow Broker Mission to try something (that'd count as a loyalty mission), and that is, if you still have a chance to try to pursue her, otherwise, only in ME3 you might be able to try.
But yes, she does contradict herself when she acts madly towards Javik and not towards Shepard.
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It is something of a mini romance and she'll bring it up again in ME3. And really, it's hard to take ME3 seriously when it comes to the romance options in ME2 considering how badly they butchered Jacob and Thane. But Samara won't let you get anywhere near as close if you play as a Renegade, which means that Mass Effect characters should be able to discriminate between paragon and renegade Shepard.
Yeah and the VS isn't available at all. Plus Liara is still romanceable in ME3 regardless of whether you have Shadow Broker or not.
She does contradict herself, which makes her look more delusional than just how she's willing to lap up to Shepard even if it goes completely against her morals. Okay, I'd be able to understand if she was canonically in love with Shepard regardless of how Shepard is handled IF she were a more morally gray character, but she's not, and how she reacts to Javik just kind of proves it to me that she's being ridiculous about her feelings towards Shepard
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Yeah, ME3 wasn't exactly the best, but I just mentioned it because of the idea of turning down Liara.
Samara doesn't accept Shep if s/he's only renegade (obviously because of her Code, and renegade Shep isn't really the most honorable person ever), but I saw people that had both Paragon and Renegade reputations maxed out, and Samara didn't turn him/her down even if s/he did act Renegade a lot.
Yes, they "are". But, most of the decisions have the same outcome, so for the characters, it's everything okay most of the time. :/
Yes, she is, just like Kaidan and Ashley are even if you turn them down in ME1.
She's not 100% paragon, though. She does act a bit renegade, specially in the Shadow Broker chain quests (the ones in ME2 and the ones in the DLC). I'm not considering her rage bursts when Javik pisses her off. She grew from a naΓ―ve girl to a determined woman (though she's still naΓ―ve sometimes, but it was worse in ME1).
All of this was probably the biggest reason to make LiaraxShep look like the canon romance: the best scenes, the couple that needs less effort to close the deal. But the fact that the couple doesn't need too much effort doesn't make the fans feel accomplished. They were won over because of the scenes mostly. :/
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I know, but its still deep in culture. You can hate it, you can simply disagree with that, but its fact. Facts simply are.
I dont know myself, why all Terrans are obssesed by virginity. As a person from almost purely atheistic country, I dont understand that completely, and its more funny than serious for me, so thats why i dont see that disgusting 
Yeah, technically it would be better, if Liara more criticize him, like Bastila keep complaining about you, if youre Dark Side Revan in KOTOR.
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It's deep in culture but that doesn't change the fact that it is harmful, it is sexist, and it should not be encouraged.
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there are many people what make list of things what shouldn't be encouraged. for example in europe many fellas think the same about smoking in restaurants or new nuclear plants, but my people still doing it anyway without regrets.
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Well I think sexism and racism should not be encouraged no matter what.
As for Europe, the whole smoking thing is changing. It is illegal to smoke in many places now, at least in Western Europe where I lived.
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okay not to butt in too much...BUT I do think Garrus is the best choice for female Shepard & for MALE Shepard it should be Liara...
As for Female Shepard, Garrus is the best choice there is. I say this because he gives an air of coolness without exaggerating on the good boy or bad boy image. He is loyal to Shepard & he actually gives a matter of fact view on all things... Also... let just face it, some of his lines & his swagger is appealing. I mean BIOWARE was not even going to make him a LI choice but with everyone calling in & asking for him... well you can imagine. His character actually influenced BIOWARE to change the game. So... Garrus being as dynamic as he is, was made an LI & has the best lines. How many people not swoon over his, "Awfully empty universe with you" speech...come on... if a guy said that to me... I would take him to Vegas!
Garrus has that....he is more like a military joe, who has learned the ropes & has grown into a wise character. How can you not look at his scarred face & not see that he is the one for Shepard?
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I am always for team dextro, but criticize Liara as a 'universal' romance choice isnt a good way to comment shitty parts of game
IMO most pathetic place cause of romance is Rannoch. when i romanced admiral Tali, and I killed a reaper, it was like fairytale with a princess and dragon
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honestly, I think Liara is the best choice... I always felt she was very useful for MALE Shepard...but it makes me wonder...why in the game there were more LESBIAN choices for female Shepard than STRAIGHT choices??? You can totally tell, that Bioware was targeting the MALE audience...
Look at MALE Shepard...he had like all the chicks... what MALE choices did FEMALE Shepard have? Garrus (always a win) & Kaiden (who basically kept being a jerk most of the missions & even questioned Shepard in front of the troops which is a MAJOR "No go" in the military), Thane... basically dies after you make out with him & Jacob has knocked up his girlfriend & is not a LI (thank goodness).
Liara seems like a great candidate & I am sure she is, but Garrus wins hands down for me.
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actually MaleShep and FemShep had both only 2 good romances - Tali, Liara and Garrus, Thane. Others are more or less shitty.
No complaints, if there were decent sex scenes
Still praying for Romance DLC
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*secretley wishing* I am so hard on wishing for Garrus to get a chance! She needs him!
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Considering the ending of the game, I'm not sure that's a good idea... Besides, Garrus has Tali or eventually will have Tali.
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But did you see Citadel DLC? That rocked & it was so sweet...also, how could you not love the tango?
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hahaha I admire shepard for not going for any of the ME1 romances
(I could never say no to liara) xp hahaha
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It was mostly so that I wouldn't feel bad for cheating in ME2, my other Shepard did romance Kaidan though.
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pfft hahahaha I see! well you shouldn't feel too bad though 'YOU WERE ON A BREAK'
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