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Published: 2011-02-10 16:08:54 +0000 UTC; Views: 2327; Favourites: 117; Downloads: 10
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Goes with this:This may piss people off. But I'm tired of the hypocrites who shout the word "TOLERANCE" but either don't know what it means, or they just expect tolerance for only themselves and not others.
Whether we like to admit it or not, tolerance works both ways. If you demand someone to accept you as who you are, but not accept them for who they are, that is NOT tolerance. That is superiority/BULLYING.
Random examples:
The world of Islam wants Christians to tolerate them; the world of Christianity needs to be tolerated by Islamie: It's very hard to get another religion to tolerate you, when fundamentalists are shouting to kill that religious group (this goes for both Christian fundamentalists and Islamic fundamentalists)
Minority groups want to be tolerated by majority groups; then minority groups need to tolerate majority groupsie: It is unacceptable for whites to say the 'n' word to blacks (agreed), but why is it still acceptable for blacks to say 'cracker' to whites? It's the same negative connotation. So if one is unacceptable, they should BOTH be unacceptable.
Political parties need to stop calling each other "Fascist/Nazis" or "Communist/Socialists". Both sides, stop it. You're just stirring the anger pot, and making yourself look dumb.
GLBT community, you have the right to be angry that they are taking away your rights, but what message does it give to constantly go "It's the churches' fault" or "I hate homophobes" or "Religion should be wiped off the face of the earth". Really, these comments are just your OWN hatred of someone who believes differently than you. And if I see one more person generalize that "Christians are evil" simply because they are GLBT and that's the 'cool' thing to say if you're GLBT, I'll get very sad and/or angry. Because I'm pretty sure I have a huge group of GLBT friends who I support, and believe they have the right to marry... but I'm a Christian. So BOTH sides: STOP SAYING YOU HATE EACH OTHER. BOTH SIDES! STOP NOW!Doesn't matter if you're Christian or not, I think Jesus should have taught everyone one good lesson: To turn the other cheek. I rant and rave about many things, but I have never hated a person for who they are. Even those who say I should burn in hell for my political beliefs, I never hate them. Wouldn't the world be a better place if we stopped the hate, ON BOTH SIDES??
SO NO
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I do know what tolerance is. I just have the ability to see both sides. I play devil's advocate all the time. AND PERHAPS, if you stopped, and REALLY took the time to read what I'm saying, then you'll get THE BIG PICTURE.
I'm not picking on any group in particular. I'm just tired of seeing "I hate you
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In the words of Voltaire, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
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True/Classic Tolerance: Β I disagree with you but I still love and respect you. Β I see you as a human being created in the Image of God and you have worth and value.
False/Modern Tolerance: Β If you disagree with me, you are a mean, hateful bigot. Β I hate you!
As a Christian, I believe in true/classic tolerance. Β Just because I disagree with someone doesn't mean I hate or disrespect them. Β I have the right to disagree with you and you have the right to disagree with me. Love, Respect and Tolerance goes both ways.
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I tolerate everybody, no matter their beliefs, religions, origins or sexuality.
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I agree fully with this stamp. I might disagree with someone, but that doesn't mean I hate them...Β
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Speaking of that, I complained about someone having the N-word(The one ending in -a) on their username on Youtube, and people called me a racist and said I was bashing black people, including the user himself. And they were calling me anti-white AND homophobic slurs. AND they threatened to hack my account. As if that stuff make them morally superior to a REAL racist.
(I'm not even white, I'm multi-ethnic. And I'm straight, if it matters)
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I think people are down right crazy anymore.
And they pull the race card way too often.
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I am willing to bet that those guys' heads would explode if they knew that the n word's primary definition means something completely different even up to today.
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By the way, that user was black himself.
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I get the message and, aside from the heat you had in comments because of details, I think you said the truth. The perfect world would be the one filled with tolerance. Heh, it makes me think of one of my neighbours. She's a very religious person and she was shouting about how evil homosexual people are... Now she's renting a room for a young man, who turned out to be gay (he confessed that) and now she's like: "He's so nice... Ok, gays are truly evil, but this one not." 
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I don't think I've ever met a gay person who hated religion because it was against homosexuality and the like but, then again, despite being lesbian, I don't know all that many gay people >.< (Although I know for certain that there are anti-religious gay people out there...I've just never met any.)
Actually, the only gay person I know is my girlfriend and she's a pretty devout Christian. Goes to church every Sunday and everything! Also, she's pretty super tolerant of everyone. I'm an Atheist (Me not believing in God has obsolutely nothing to go with me being a lesbian. Honest!) who, much like her, am pretty set in my beliefs but despite believing in completely opposite things, we never go at each other for it. We actually joke around about it and say that since she's a Christian and I'm an Atheist, we're seriously gonna confuse our kids and they're gonna be Agnostic XD
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Or your kids will just chose something completely out of the blue, like Shintoism or something to really through y'all off
But that's great you two get along. And props to both for breaking the mold of stupidity that seems to be spreading!
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I didn't even see you reply to my message. My bad XD
And I've never even heard of Sintoism XD
To Google! Hey, I may be Atheist but I still find religion a very interesting thing to read about.
Hee hee, thanks
We just see our beliefs as one part of who we are and not as the things that define us. Take this one guy I know as an example...he's a big hairy dude who's covered from head to foot in tattoos and many of said tattoos are of skulls and evil demonic looking creatures. Looking at him most people think he's a Satanic gang member alchohol or something like that but his real personality is the complete opposite. He is Christian, he doesn't smoke, do or drugs or drink at all (he hasn't had a beer in years) and he hasn't got a mean bone in his body. He's really just a big teddie bear. You see, he may have big scary tattoos but he doesn't let the tattoos define who he is. He refuses to be some stereotype and to do all these things just because he has terrifying tats.
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It is unacceptable for whites to say the 'n' word to blacks (agreed), but why is it still acceptable for blacks to say 'cracker' to whites? It's the same negative connotation. So if one is unacceptable, they should BOTH be unacceptable.
Only NEO-NAZIS believe in racism against whites. Go to Hell, NAZI, where you belong. Burn in Hell along with Hitler!
CRACKERCRACKERCRACKERCRACKERCRACKERCRACKERCRACKERCRACKERCRACKERCRACKERCRACKERCRACKER!
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you're exactly the ignorant asshole that she's talking about
a few definitions of racism:
you were just abusive toward her; you're being racist
in fact, this girl you commented on, a girl you don't know, isn't racist
in fact, she isn't even just white; she's made up of three races
so shut your face before you start telling people they should burn in hell
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THANK YOU! I mean... Yeah. I don't even have anything to add to that. You just totally said everything. I agree wholeheartedly
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You're welcome; glad I could get a stamp out there to voice others' opinions.
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I agree so much with this statement!
It's actually a thought that I've been having for a while, so I'm glad that someone else here thinks on the same page as me!
Thanks for doing this!
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You're welcome.
(I probably AM crazy, but that's aside the point.)
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We can be crazy together.
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I've gotten so many "Amen"s today I feel like I'm at church!
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The liberal politician example is a bad example... The boilerplate for the new health-care reform bill came from 2 wholly republican, conservative plans and one bipartisan plan. There were all of ZERO wholly democratic plans included in the boilerplate for the new bill when the Obama administration wrote it. Which makes the label "Obamacare" at a minimum misleading. A more accurate description would be "Republicare".
This is not an example of the "liberal Obama administration" simply toeing the party line and refusing to compromise. They started, right out of the gate, with a proposal that was in essence a compromise already, heavily influenced by the work of conservative thinkers like Mitt Romney who developed the Massachusetts plan. And over the course of the debate, they let go of many items they wanted, but that were controversial, like the public option. So starting from a basic position of compromise they then compromised even further. The liberals in congress couldn't have been any more compromising in that debate, without dropping their drawers, bending over and handing a jar of Vaseline to their rivals. Imo an appropriate response to a group of people supporting your own ideas would be to advertise your own contribution to the end result (i.e. "Republicare"), rather than to immediately reverse course, claim that you never had anything to do with it and that it's evil incarnate.
It's also not true that parties will never be tolerant of one another. The US is an extremely polarized country right now (there are plenty of legitimate science studies on this subject), but we don't have to be. Many of these issues that trip us up here are ridiculous to Canadians because nobody would ever consider calling their political rivals Nazis for wanting to improve their health-care system. Doing that in Canada would get a politician laughed out of office. We absolutely can have a civil and even cooperative debate in this country, but it has to start with not calling each other Nazis all the time.
And although I won't be as combative as the first person who commented, I will say that as far as I'm concerned, the tolerance issue regarding gays and homophobes isn't quite the way you seem to imply it is here either. As far as I know, no one is suggesting that we take away the civil liberties of heterosexual people, but that is the case with members of the GLBT community both here in the states and abroad... hell, there are seven countries where gay people are still put to death including Iran and Yemen, which are remarkably modernized countries, with democracy and a middle-class and everything. There is simply no comparison between a gay person who is angered by the actions of homophobes who often want to kill them and a homophobe who is trying to make it law to kill gay people because he's bothered by them. And even when they're not trying to make it law to kill gay people, they're at least in this country, still trying tooth and claw to ensure that gay people have fewer legal rights, which is something that you will never find any single GLBT person trying to do to straight people anywhere ever period. The gay people have a right to be angry -- the homophobes only have a right to be uncomfortable. (And I'm not even aware of anyone trying to take away their right to that.) But maybe your comments on the gay/homophobe thing were just poorly worded (since you did say you believe their thinking is wrong in your comment below - although not in the artist comment). When I read the artist comment, it just seemed like there were important details missing from that example, which made it seem rather biased to me.
I do however really like this and the other stamp, and I really do appreciate the thought behind them.
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Okay, tell me if it makes more sense. I had to burst out the non-diet Dr Pepper for this to all come out okay, and I do believe I will be rolling around in the snow outside because of it
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Yeah, those are both much clearer imo.
Sorry it's taken me a bit to respond... I've been trying to get some actual cartooning done today between distractions. 
I will say though that I can't recall hearing any GLBT people say that "religion" was evil -- unless they also happened to be atheists... but I've known quite a few non-atheist GLBT people. Maybe that's a side-effect of being Unitarian.
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It probably WAS poorly worded, and I should go back and edit the GLBT/homophobe thing. Writing anything prior to caffeine intake is bad juju all around.
The political thing, yes, in OTHER countries they can compromise. But this is how I see it in America:
the left (not just politicians, but voters as well) call the right Nazis or Fascists
the right (again, not just politicians) call the left Communists or Socialists
Neither of these are correct, true? All it does is breed intense hatred. As of now, the Republicans are in the power house and the hatred is spewing out of the left. When the Democrats were in power, the hatred was spewing out of the right. Either way was stupid, and since post WWII, it has been like this. Constantly. It's rather annoying.
Noooow... I'm off to edit that artist comment to make it more what I intended.
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Yep, I agree with all of this 100%.
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Wow. "Hey, gays, let's be tolerant of people who are trying to deny our rights! Yeah!"
Don't think so, honey. A homophobe isn't "what someone is," it's someone who has been raised by ignorant liars, and doesn't have the intelligence to even challenge what he was told by his parents/church/etc. I don't tolerate ignorance. You aren't born homophobic, but you are born gay. See the difference?
You're the one who doesn't know what tolerance is.
LOL.
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You're a perfect example of somebody that this stamp is directed at. Even if people don't support gay-rights, so fucking what? They have every right to!
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Do we know for sure someone isn't born a homophobe? Nature versus nurture is still an ongoing theory.
And the gay/homophobe thing is just an EXAMPLE of how people can't see each other's side.
I believe homophobes are COMPLETELY wrong in their thinking, but I won't scream hatred at them. THAT'S what I'm talking about. Gays don't have to sing kumbaya with them, but just as the GLBT community doesn't want homophobes giving them violent threats, they don't have to reciprocate with their own threats.
I DO know what tolerance is, and you proved my point by insulting my knowledge of the word simply because you didn't agree with my stance on the matter.
So thanks.
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Homophobic people have changed later in life. Gay people can't do that, no matter what churches say.
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I know some gay people who have decided they are straight. That's why some people just don't even know if they're gay straight or bi or whatever.
None of us really truly know how the brain works, that's why psychology is always changing.
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