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I'm actually really glad foreigners were forbidden from wearing the toga too. They're kind of... cumbersome to put on and take off... >> The Roman pallium was probably one of the smartest ideas he had (Oh wait, another one of mine. U_U)((Yep, it turns out non-Romans were forbidden from wearing a toga. It kind of makes sense since the toga was their national dress... and the Romans took their nationalism VERY seriously, unlike Greece. Greece had... her own brand of nationalism, I guess. ("Anyone who can't speak Greek is not worth associating with! *sniff*")
The Romans had almost as much as a love-hate relationship with Greece as Greece had with Rome. There were loads of Roman politicians who thought the Greeks were evil and would corrupt Rome, believe it or not. For the longest time, the Greek style of dress was considered almost disgusting to Romans, but in the 2nd century BCE it suddenly became super fashionable and the pallium (the Roman version of the Greek himation) replaced the toga almost completely. So yeah, if you're wondering what that red thing that Rome (and I guess Jesus? o3o) sometimes wears is, it's a pallium, not a toga.
Ah well, I was looking forward to drawing Athens grappling with a toga. XD; Too bad. I guess he's safe for today...
one more thing about togas. For the majority of Roman civilization, the only women who wore togas were prostitutes. A respectable woman would wear a stola.))
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Charumati: *sipping her tea* Sometimes I'm amazed that he became a powerful nation
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhh I often confuse some kinds of toga with pallium,and almost forgot only Romans can wear toga,Athens was only a client state citizens I guess......?
Among women only prostitutes wear toga,then I must make myself like a man if I wanna wear one OUO.
Thanks for your answer it corrects another my history errors! ;w;
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((Don't worry about it! I didn't know about it until I was looking up pictures of togas to figure out how to draw them, so I learned something too!
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((This is why I love hanfus and kimonos, so comfortrable to wear))
Charumati: I agree those clothes look impossible to wear. *wearing a soft ocean blue Suzhou silk Tang dynasty style hanfu with a string of pearls in her hair, her jewelry in the Egyptian-Hellenic fusion style*
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I suppose that makes sense,Ancient Greece nationalism, and xenophobia seem remarkably similar, but whatever. So what brought on the change of mind? Oh well. Oh I see. Oh what's a stola look like?
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((Yeah, Egypt was kind of similar to Rome in the respect that it was a unified state and not a lose collection of city-states, like Greece and Sumeria and maybe even Babylonia. I really don't know why it suddenly became fashionable, but I'd guess it was mostly to do with the fact that togas take forever to put on properly and are hard to move around in. *shrug* I need to learn more about Rome. XD;
A stola is kind of an overdress: [link] The deeper blue part in this picture is the stola. The red part is a palla, essentially the feminine version of the pallium. The light blue under everything is the tunica.))
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I see, that makes sense, I suppose that would affect nationalism. Oh I see togas were just a little to impractical national dress or not? I suppose.
Oh lots of layers, okay 3 but that seems like a lot to put on. Were they as difficult to put on, and move around in as tunics were?
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((Honestly, I couldn't tell you unless I wore this stuff myself. XD))
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