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LinnScarlett [2017-07-10 22:38:43 +0000 UTC]
Your lady Astartes are amazing, and I love them <3
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K-OZ-Will [2017-05-11 14:34:56 +0000 UTC]
hmm ... heretical, but looks really good.
I really don't see why a Female Space Marine would make any difference, even if they existed.
The horrible deformities caused by even the healthy Gene-seeds would make them look just like any pretty faced Space Marine at best, specially if they were from the Blood Angels chapters, which are sometimes described as pretty.
Enlarged bone structure, increased aggressiveness and muscle mass, diminished body fat, dulled sexual drive though both biological and memetic indoctrination. Other than maybe a pretty face and a feminine name, they would be pretty much the same as the rest of the Space Marines.
Unless you think it is ok to have women turning into huge mutated men.
In order to make a female counterpart to the Space Marines the process of making them should be different and so should be the final form they take. But I prefer to have their female counterparts be the Adepta Sororitas, they just focus on equipment, doctrine and outright miracles instead of biological deformations designed for war.
It would be cool to have some Sisters of Battle join the Astartes after the whole Guilliman/Celestine/Ynnari campaign, keeping the same function in battle but assimilating the chapter heraldry. Like Brothers and Sisters of [insert Chapter name here].
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MacOSX-Brony In reply to K-OZ-Will [2017-07-09 00:42:46 +0000 UTC]
Well, in old fluff, there were mentions of the gene-seed that turns normal Humans into Astartes COULD work on women, it was just better used on men due to their natural biological strengths over women.
But now in 7th and 8th editions, gene-seed is simply coded for male hormones and genetics, and does extremely horrible things to women when implanted into them...
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K-OZ-Will In reply to MacOSX-Brony [2017-07-10 18:35:50 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, but even if it could work the end result would be a huge muscular dude named Susan.
As cool as we can make our FEMarines Heretical Fanart, it is kinda of a dumb idea.
Men are in a way a modified, simplified version of females with physiology more suited for hunting and combat. If you ever seen the effects of excessive male hormones on the female body you will notice how drastic the changes can be, like with trangender people that transition from female into male.
The Astartes is kinda of an exaggerated version of that so if a woman was to ever go through the same process the end result would be pretty much a man.
That's why I said that it would be best to come up with a different process to make these amzonian waifus make sense in setting.
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TheRealWinston [2016-09-09 15:35:48 +0000 UTC]
There are no female Space Marines (altough, I must admit, that I came up with two too...)
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TheRealWinston In reply to Blazbaros [2016-09-10 06:23:47 +0000 UTC]
Like, almost every other dude who came up with a female space marine...
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Blazbaros In reply to TheRealWinston [2016-09-10 06:29:34 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, because we're having fun. Of course we're not being serious.
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sciencevsart [2016-05-27 15:54:31 +0000 UTC]
0/10 not enough facial scarring.
Just kidding. I always love bulky armour designs. The head does tend to look small, but since big bodybuilders already have small-head syndrome sans gene-seed augmentation, it'd look even more hilarious with Astartes. The gleam effects don't clash with the shadowing, and there's a metallic feel to the gold trim. Can you teach me how to do that? I can never get that right.
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Blazbaros In reply to sciencevsart [2016-05-27 19:34:37 +0000 UTC]
If you can make it to one my streams, sure!
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AlanAlectai [2016-04-10 18:43:51 +0000 UTC]
Being someone who also commissioned one a while ago (Though it ended up a bit more boob-platey then this one, shame!) Β The way I fluffed it was that "Statistically and physically, there's functionally no difference between if you do the Spess Marine mods on a male or a female subject. Β The Emperor focused on optimizing for men because optimizing one way or another increases the possibily of success and minimizes the risk to the genetic diversity of humanity, and he was willing to make a lot of concessions over the course of the Great Crusade to facilitate doing it quickly."
It's just that a combination of tradition and a lack of knowledge in how Gene Seed actually works has led to the modern viewpoint of "Men Only", when the raw material you build a Space Marine out of is basically irrelevant (The only reason the game I'm running allows you to even theoretically tell a Spess Marine has boobs or not with their armor is because my game has the average Space marine standing at around 6'4 to 7' in height, which is enough that the slight differences in bone structure provide a subtle difference in the design of their armor. Β Many other people go with the eight feet or more intepretation, which would would definitely lead to "Literally no way to tell" issue, since there's been so much additional bone growth that any original shape differences will have faded by then.
Sexual characteristics are 100% vestigal with a Space Marine, so it doesn't really actually make sense why they would be locked to starting from a male origin in the first place. Β It's basically cosmetic as a result in my canon, and the only reason there aren't Female Space Marines is because even if people knew how to switch them from XY to XX, it reduces the implantation success rate considerably (Because it's not as well optimized because the Emperor cut corners due to being in a rush and finalized the project when he had one set of chromosones at 'Good enough',) and provides no actual additional utility to justify that, unless for some reason you were a Space Marine chapter that was stuck on a planet with an extremely low male birthrate, and couldn't just move someplace else that had a higher population.
TL;DR: You can have your Gurl Spess Marines, it's just that inertia, tradition, and having to jailbreak the Gene Seed to get access to the unoptimized beta build to permit it leads to it being impractical enough that nobody would actually try without significant extenuating circunstances.
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BlueBabyDoll In reply to AlanAlectai [2016-04-22 13:17:37 +0000 UTC]
I can prove facts that disagree with this from a logical standpoint, but that would be through noting. However to agree with you on your third paragraph, If the emporer had more time he could make female space marines, but he process would be drastically different then how you would make a male space marines. One of the other problems of the in canon logic, is that they're gene seeds made from a primarch, which is male. And just using science today, I can tell you that males and females are generally different in biology so making them in a traditional sense wouldn't work. You would have to find an STC template that allowed such construction to begin with but since that was never put to fruition because as you said, the emporer and his reasons. The imperium would have to make up one along with making a woman primarch for it to work in a traditional sense. Though of course if you don't want to do that, you could always go to honsou and Fabious bile, but they wouldn't be "true" female space marines if that were the option. Or you could go to the tau and their quick advances in technology but again that would require the two thing i mentioned above, however it would be totally more feesible because they have better technology and no restrictions on tradition than the imperium has atm.
There's a couple more reasons why I'm personally opposed to this (and can prove more thing against than for it with modern science) but that little talk was just to help you out more than anything and going accepting some suspension of disbelief.
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Dehzinn In reply to BlueBabyDoll [2016-04-29 07:13:07 +0000 UTC]
Underrated comment.
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Sexual-Yeti [2016-04-07 20:16:06 +0000 UTC]
Female Space Marines? Someone better take me to a firing range.
Cuz I'M TRIGGERED!!!
Nah, just kiddin'. Well done mate!
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RougeStatus [2016-04-06 03:36:27 +0000 UTC]
THIS is how you make female space marines!
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Dark-Delta [2016-04-05 23:15:45 +0000 UTC]
She looks fantastic!
Love the armour, it's beautiful
Even better that the Blood Angels are my favourite legion.
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Dark-Delta In reply to BloodAngelsCaptain1 [2016-04-06 04:00:15 +0000 UTC]
Yup.
I was originally all about the Space Wolves, but I liked the curse the Blood Angels had, and Sanguinius seemed like a pretty rad dude, so I switched on over.
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Razmere [2016-04-05 18:02:57 +0000 UTC]
I've always said they should have female space marines.Β
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joshua4637 In reply to Razmere [2016-04-05 19:57:15 +0000 UTC]
Im guessing you havent heard of "The Sisters of Battle" but tbh I dont find it a very equivalent, female equivalent
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xxVectorZeroxx [2016-04-05 15:33:36 +0000 UTC]
i think this is the best quality space marine you have ever drawn up
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Akiyama24 [2016-04-05 14:26:17 +0000 UTC]
Great work as always!
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Sorantheman [2016-04-05 05:10:51 +0000 UTC]
I Always thought that if there ever was to be female Space Marines, then the Blood Angels gear would suit them the most.
And no, that is not a period joke.
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narakubeforhewentbad [2016-04-05 04:24:45 +0000 UTC]
if shes anything like her name sake shes going to look fantastic in blackΒ
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DeadCobra [2016-04-05 04:03:57 +0000 UTC]
This is very fun
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BlueBabyDoll [2016-04-05 02:08:04 +0000 UTC]
As much as i love this pic, i'm going to say it's not a mistake that space marines are an only boys club as there's way badass women in the universe too (you pretty much have to be to live) that being said, great iteration of there being one blaz.
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Ernest-Smart In reply to BlueBabyDoll [2016-04-05 15:46:16 +0000 UTC]
Give me a Sister of Battle over an UltraSmurf any day. They aren't as genetic oddities if I remember, the Sisters don't get Gene-Seeds like the Marines if I remember right. So their fight is a little closer to the everyman/everywoman.
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Blazbaros In reply to BlueBabyDoll [2016-04-05 02:09:20 +0000 UTC]
Yes, but they seem to be locked in a position above the IG and below the marines. That's not cool D:
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BlueBabyDoll In reply to Blazbaros [2016-04-05 02:14:42 +0000 UTC]
I don't look at it like that at all, I mean biology wise, guys make the best fighters so i expect space marines to be the best in that regard, but then sometimes they aren't the best because sister of battle do a lot of bat shit crazy things as much as space marines do if you ever read those book (which are very good). IG is actually the variable as they are just ordinary men and women that do some very extraordinary things for survival to where they fit the bill of either two. It's not a big deal really, to me at least, both genders get a large amount of spotlight of being badasses, it's just space marines are the poster boys because of a certain employee (Matt ward *cough cough*) It's not really a sexist universe if you look in a lot of the right places.
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Blazbaros In reply to BlueBabyDoll [2016-04-05 02:57:20 +0000 UTC]
They only did that after the fact because they became aware of their dumb mistake.
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BlueBabyDoll In reply to Blazbaros [2016-04-05 06:12:14 +0000 UTC]
*Shrugs* Their mistake being no proper females in the imperial arsenal, sure. came out in 1997, when a lot of females were becoming badasses in popculture. I can't call that stupid, just slightly late. Space marine theme was and still is crusader jedi monks in space. Sister of battle is Nuns with some serious guns. It fits with the overall theme since it's based a little off of dark medieval/renaissance with a sci-fi twist , fits with the setting alright. They still have bad asses of either gender everywhere (and as you can see flat out core armies of them) , and back then were just going with the flow of popculture.
I'm personally glad they did it like this for reasons said above. Each army has an identity that fits with a fraction of our history as humanity. If they just did a scape goat and made the space marines both, i'd call them out on being lazy with their universe building and hypocrites to their design. Sisters of battle was an answer to female empowerment and it fits with what they were going for. Right now if you play them on the table top they're dangerous as hell now since the 7th edition is the shooty edition and they got a lot of neat fluff along with that.
So yeah love what you did here, not going to agree it was stupid based on circumstances at the time, the setting of the universe, and the space marines design choices and inception.
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TheFellowWithTheHat [2016-04-05 00:32:49 +0000 UTC]
Is it actually possible in the Warhammer: 40,000 canon for there to be female Space Marines? Forgive me, I'm not too familiar with it's lore.
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