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Description Featuring Charlie Cooper, the state of South Carolina. [link]

April 12, 1861: The first shots of the Civil War are fired at Fort Sumter in Charleston harbor, South Carolina.

After the secession of South Carolina in December of 1860, Confederate troops seized all federal property in Charleston except Fort Sumter. For the next five months, federal troops at the fort faced increasingly worse siege conditions, struggling with a lack of food and supplies. On April 10, 1861, Brig. Gen. Beauregard, in command of the provisional Confederate forces at Charleston, South Carolina, demanded the surrender of the Union garrison of Fort Sumter in Charleston Harbor. Garrison commander Anderson refused. On April 12, Confederate batteries opened fire on the fort, which was unable to reply effectively. At 2:30 pm, April 13, Major Anderson surrendered Fort Sumter, evacuating the garrison on the following day. (Info from the NPS)

The Union would try for four years to win back the fort.

On the 150th anniversary of the start of the Civil War, take a bit of time to think about how far we've come as a nation and what it took to get here. Also take time to think about how far we've yet to go...

Notes:

-The perspective's off. I'm bad with perspective. But I'm practicing.
-The actual flag the Confederates raised at Ft. Sumter after the Union surrender was the Stars and Bars, the first official flag of the CSA ([link] ). I used the battle flag here because it's more easily recognizable and imo, has a bigger impact
-In no way do I support the Confederacy or its ideals.
-In my understanding, the Civil War was caused by slavery and slavery above all. The other causes were directly connected to slavery. (Although, ~StubbornStupidity has made an excellent counter-argument down in the comments. Go check it out and hopefully we can continue a dialogue about this still-sensitive topic.)
-Whenever I hear the term "states' rights" I always picture these guys marching in front the Capitol in like...a pride parade with signs and banners.
-Other art featuring South Carolina: (though these are fairly old and I'd like to think I've gotten better since.)
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Comments: 24

GraciaTheirin [2012-06-28 17:22:37 +0000 UTC]

it's funny because he was brought down

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boscaresque In reply to GraciaTheirin [2012-06-28 20:01:43 +0000 UTC]

Very much so.

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ThisBirdTooHasFlown [2011-04-29 07:23:43 +0000 UTC]

Awesome picture! The background and colors are fantastic, and I really like the way you've drawn the clothing! You can really feel the movement of the picture, if that makes any sense. : )

I've always understood that the Civil War was fought over states rights, but became about slavery to the North after the Emancipation Proclamation, giving them a moral cause to combat the South's local pride. (Before that, it had been hard to build up spirit for the Union cause.) But then again, I live in the Northwest... I could be missing something.

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boscaresque In reply to ThisBirdTooHasFlown [2011-04-29 12:21:49 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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StubbornStupidity [2011-04-22 20:46:20 +0000 UTC]

Your picture is great. Perspectives are hard to work with and I think you did a great job. From what I remember from my history class last semester, I think the actual battle flag was a square and the colors were lighter. But you've done a great job!

As for your comment, I really don't appreciate it. The war was fought over many things. On the governmental level with the senators and representatives, it was fought over slavery. But when you go down to the level of the soldiers, in the letters they wrote to home, every single one of them was fighting for states' rights. The war was terrible, the worst in US history, and it still causes feelings of hurt to rise up. It's one of the most complicated conflicts the US has ever had. Not everyone fought for the same thing, but for those who actually marched and did the killing, what they were fighting for was a protection of the rights of their state they felt the national government was taking away. Yes, slavery was a big part of it. But slavery wasn't the only part of it. States' rights and slavery were the two biggest issues of the war. Not to mention the paranoia on both sides. The North and South both thought the other was trying to force their lifestyle. The South thought the North was trying to force industrialism on them, and the North thought the South was trying to spread slavery to them. Neither was right, but both were scared. Propaganda didn't help this either.

Both sides had different ideals when it came to what they were fighting for. It didn't really just boil down to one thing. It was a whole mess of fears and resentment that came about from decades of fighting over new territories and the way each perceived the other. To say that it was only over slavery isn't the whole truth.

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boscaresque In reply to StubbornStupidity [2011-04-23 01:37:06 +0000 UTC]

Hey, thanks for your perspective on things and being so civil. I certainly see your point, about the soldiers on an individual level who may not have cared about slavery.

I like it when my pictures inspire healthy debate. I wish there was more of it, tbh.

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StubbornStupidity In reply to boscaresque [2011-04-23 05:00:08 +0000 UTC]

Also, I tend to dork out. I don't mind healthy debate, even though I run from it. There doesn't seem to be a lot of people who will debate over things - even small things - in a civilized way. I try to be careful in how I phrase things and to not attack anyone. So if I come across as mean or rude, I really don't mean to be. Just tell me!

I'm really glad I didn't upset you.

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boscaresque In reply to StubbornStupidity [2011-04-23 15:00:37 +0000 UTC]

As I said, I really appreciate your opinion.

I'm a northerner going to school in Illinois, so I am a bit biased as well.

I always think it's interesting how something that happened 150 years ago can still have such a big impact.

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StubbornStupidity In reply to boscaresque [2011-04-23 23:26:33 +0000 UTC]

That's the best thing about studying history. Cause everything - the social and political situations, the fashion, even the architecture - has an impact that ripples to now. I took a class on fairy tales last semester and even in there we were taught about history to learn why these stories were made and told.

Oh gosh, I shouldn't even be getting on the subject of fairy tales. I could talk all day on them.

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boscaresque In reply to StubbornStupidity [2011-04-24 00:31:48 +0000 UTC]

So true. Everything that's happened before will happen in some way again. When I went clothes shopping today, for instance, I had such fashion deja vu to previous eras. It's like...can't the 2010s ever create their own styles instead of recycling old ones? Especially the 70's. There's a reason 70's fashion went out of style...

/Sorry, random fashion tangent. It happens.

Ooh I love fairy tales.

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StubbornStupidity In reply to boscaresque [2011-04-24 10:13:07 +0000 UTC]

I don't mind incorporating fashion from previous eras into what we have today, but some stuff just needs to stay in the past. Especially anything from the 80s. Feathered hair and the clashing colors gives me nightmares and headaches. Ah! And leisure suits! Why were they ever made?

We all have our topics we dork out on. No worries!

I loved them when I took the class, and came out even more obsessed. The original ones are much darker what Disney's given us. Did you know the original Snow White story ended with the evil queen being made to dance to her death in fire-hot iron shoes at Snow White's wedding? And Snow White laughed and clapped along with everyone else! And one version of Cinderella (called Donkeyskin) has the girl escaping from her father because he's in love with her and wants to marry her. Definitely not the version Disney decided to do.

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boscaresque In reply to StubbornStupidity [2011-04-25 03:22:37 +0000 UTC]

Oh dear lord, leisure suits...

My house was built in the 70s. It has shag carpet. ORANGE shag carpet. D:

Original fairy tales fascinate me. And creep me out. It's always fun to research how they went before Disney got hold of them. My favorite original story is definitely the HCA's Little Mermaid.

My favorite Disney movie is the Hunchback of Notre Dame. I also love the original Victor Hugo novel, but damn is it depressing. Whenever I read Hugo, my hope for humanity dies a little inside.

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StubbornStupidity In reply to boscaresque [2011-04-25 05:22:59 +0000 UTC]

I must be lucky, then. My house was built in the 80s. The worst we have is busy wallpaper we haven't gotten around to tearing out.

I have a book that has some of the original fairy tales. It's a Norton book, called The Classic Fairy Tales. It's sectioned by different fairy tales, their variants, and some essays that cover them. I feel like a nerd, but I thought it was super fascinating and read more of the stories than were assigned to us.

Ah, Andersen! We had a few weeks devoted to him. I have a big book of his fairy tales with illustrations in it! Have you read The Snow Queen? That one's my favorite, though The Little Mermaid is dear to me as well.

I remember watching the Hunchback of Notre Dame! I watched it once and couldn't ever watch past the carnival scene where they find out that's his face. The cruelty made me cry, though now I really love how dark it is. I haven't read the novel, but I've wanted to. My roommate told me the ending's really sad and much darker than the Disney movie.

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StubbornStupidity In reply to boscaresque [2011-04-23 04:57:11 +0000 UTC]

I admit, I may be a bit biased since I am from Texas and consider myself a Southerner. Granted, it's a different kind of Southerner since Texans are, shall we say, stranger than everyone else.

Most of the Southerners who actually fought were the ones who were too poor to afford more than one or two slaves and could make do with doing the work on their farms themselves. To them, states' rights were the bigger issue because that affected them more. The rich plantation owners were the ones who fought for slavery. Except, they didn't really fight so much as they bought themselves a high enough military standing to not ever see battle, just host parties and talk about the war. There weren't as many plantations in the South as people think. They were like self-contained towns. They had everything they needed on their plantations so they wouldn't have to spend money getting it from somewhere else. Plantation owners were really cheap that way. They had a ton of money and could afford to pay their slaves wages, they just didn't want to lose a cent of what they made (huge money grubbers).

Sorry. I know a lot about this time period. My roommate and I will talk about it sometimes because that period is her favorite in American history. She really likes the 1800s because of westward expansion and the Civil War and the Restoration period. She's a big history buff and super smart that way. I'm more interested/terrified of the Victorian Era. I don't know as much as I'd like to about it because I can't take the classes, but I try to research it when I can.

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dogswithmail [2011-04-12 22:25:49 +0000 UTC]

very well done! i totally forgot today was fort sumpter.....and it was the month of April....

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boscaresque In reply to dogswithmail [2011-04-12 22:36:35 +0000 UTC]

Thanks. Glad I could remind you.

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brittykittycoco [2011-04-11 00:36:58 +0000 UTC]

LOL. I just realized, I know someone named Charlie Cooper XD.

Great perspective

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boscaresque In reply to brittykittycoco [2011-04-11 00:57:17 +0000 UTC]

Heh, well it's not exactly an uncommon name.

I still don't think I got it quite right, but thank you!

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brittykittycoco In reply to boscaresque [2011-04-11 01:00:16 +0000 UTC]

welcome

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alphabetsoup314 [2011-04-10 23:54:42 +0000 UTC]

Oooo, I love the colouring style on this! *fave*

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boscaresque In reply to alphabetsoup314 [2011-04-11 00:01:28 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! I was trying something a bit new...

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nekoCAT21 [2011-04-10 23:53:25 +0000 UTC]

Woah!? I wasn't expecting to see the Confederacy.

It looks good though.

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boscaresque In reply to nekoCAT21 [2011-04-11 00:01:07 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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nekoCAT21 In reply to boscaresque [2011-04-11 00:02:54 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome. ^^

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