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marsmettn473a In reply to SethsEye [2017-01-17 00:38:15 +0000 UTC]

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Monday, January 16, 2017 at 07:38 PM EST ..

January 16, 2017 / 18 Tevet 5777


hey back there, SethsEye  ... per your observation  >>>  is suspiciously long and peculiar.    ...  you maybe correct about that point of view.

anywhoo, let me retort, thanks !!!

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CaciqueCaribe In reply to marsmettn473a [2017-01-12 19:19:26 +0000 UTC]

"Before you go all apoplectic, bibbledy, and addlepated"

Lol.  I was just trying to be funny by using words that might have been in use during Civil War days.  Believe me, they aren't words you typically hear around here these days.

"Apoplectic" simply means overcome with anger; extremely indignant.

I first heard the words "bibbledy" and "addlepated" in a scene in the 2005 film "Serenity", a conversation between two very colorful characters (Kaylee and Jayne) regarding the nature of the "Reavers".  The following is an excerpt from the movie script:

KAYLEE Shepherd Book said they was men that reached the edge of space., saw a vasty nothingness and just went bibbledy over it.
JAYNE Hell, I been to the edge. Just looked like more space.
KAYLEE I don't know. People get awful lonely in the black. Like to get addlepated ourselves, we stay on this boat much longer. Captain'll drive us all off, one by one.

It took me a long while to finally find anything at all about "bibbledy":
From Middle English bibben (from which also bib), either from Latin bibō (“I drink”), from Proto-Indo-European *peh₃-, or of imitative origin. Verb. (third-person singular simple present bibbles, present participle bibbling, simple past and past participle bibbled) Worry.   ..... So, basically, freaked out.

Addlepated just means confused or befuddled.

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CaciqueCaribe In reply to skipshot [2017-01-12 16:34:39 +0000 UTC]

Of course.  Go for it!

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skipshot In reply to CaciqueCaribe [2017-01-12 18:06:13 +0000 UTC]

Thank you.

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CaciqueCaribe In reply to joeisbackass [2017-01-12 21:15:22 +0000 UTC]

Lol.  I was wondering where you were going with that.  

Indians, Tibetans and others still use the swastika.  I don't think we could ever make them stop doing so just because the Nazis tried to take ownership of it for their cause.

Latin American and European countries still use some form of the 1892 Bellamy flag salute, even though the US stopped using its original form by 1942, again because of the Nazis.  

i.ytimg.com/vi/Qd8jGCjKB7Q/max…

But would it be right for us to call them Nazis?  That's basically what some are doing with symbols and expressions in our own country, here in the US.

I guess that, despite all the facts, those who today feel the Civil War was only about slavery will always try to link everything Confederate* with that awful practice.  I think they are being fed an automatic hateful meaning to a symbol that wasn't so inflammatory even back when racism was at its worst in this country.

In the end I think it is a regional issue to be decided by Southerners and the rest of the country should let them use the symbols they choose to identify themselves.  But activist networks from all over the country, who don't like to be told what to do, simply love to swarm and overwhelm and give the appearance that everyone in that region feels like they do, and then tell the people in that area what to do and what to think ... and always in the most divisive ways possible.

* Ironically, either out of ignorance, hypocrisy or some other reason, the same people who want to equate everything Confederate with slavery and racism choose not to equate everything if the Union with freedom and unity.  That's when they reveal what their true intentions are, to divide and weaken our Repubkic and our peoples.  They are turning "out of many, one" (e pluribus unum) more into an "out of one, many".

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joeisbackass In reply to CaciqueCaribe [2017-01-12 22:26:48 +0000 UTC]

I agree with you very much on most of those points, but I certainly wasn't trying to imply a comparison between proponents of the confederate flag with nazism;  none of the sort.  Rather, I stand by the idea that a man who sincerely sees the swastika as representing national pride for Germany (regardless of its religious meaning in the Dharmic religions) and doesn't see it as being a symbol of hate is comparable to those southerners who see the confederate flag as a symbol of pride.  And indeed Adolf Hitler made Germany a very strong nation, one which one could be proud of if the Holocaust, executions, race-killings, and starting WWII weren't in the historical equation.  But both individuals would be wrong to deny the historically awful history associated with both symbols.  The symbols are themselves meaningless but they do ignite strong emotions for varying demographics and this is based on the long history involved with the symbols.  How some Russians patronize Stalin and Lenin is to many in the former Soviet states a sign of communistic aggression and what might be a symbol of German nationalism or southern pride to some is racism and hate for many others.

This is not to say that meanings don't change over time, nor am I suggesting that those who perceive their symbols this way should be forced to change their views or hide them for reasons concerning political correctness.  But the facts of the history associated with the confederate flag, the red star, and the German swastika are the same regardless of how these individuals may view them, and that's a history not to be forgotten or taken for granted.

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CaciqueCaribe In reply to joeisbackass [2017-01-12 22:54:24 +0000 UTC]

Sorry.  I didn't mean to imply you were comparing the two.  I was the one comparing how perception affects both.

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joeisbackass In reply to CaciqueCaribe [2017-01-12 23:02:17 +0000 UTC]

No worries, and indeed as a general rule perception has a lot to do with what drives ideologies.

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joeisbackass In reply to OnlyTheGhosts [2017-01-12 04:06:41 +0000 UTC]

It is in this age of political correctness a very rebellious symbol and those who abhor political correctness and actual bigots alike have found a place in the underground movements.

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CaciqueCaribe In reply to OnlyTheGhosts [2017-01-11 22:27:57 +0000 UTC]

True.  When I first came to the US mainland in the mid 70s, where race relations were worst, I attended a mostly black school.  I never noticed any shock or reaction to anything related to that show.  To them the Dukes were just rebels.  And there were lunch boxes of that show everywhere.

The Freedom Party was, after all, basically a portion that seceded from the main Democratic Party.  And the whole reason why they broke away in the first place was primarily to promote civil rights and unity and harmony among all races in the South.  

Today's malicious suppression and divisive corruption of historical facts of the Civil Rights Movement is what I find particularly important and disturbing.

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CaciqueCaribe In reply to OddGarfield [2017-01-11 17:32:23 +0000 UTC]

Exactly.  I hope it does make sincere people wonder about all the ideas and myths being pushed today, specially by hateful and opportunistic politicians and activists.

By the way, I had just found one of his posts, right when you were making you comment.  Thanks so much.

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OddGarfield In reply to CaciqueCaribe [2017-01-11 17:57:39 +0000 UTC]

I'm sure this'll get some conspiracy flack, nonetheless, it can hold its own.

You're welcome.

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CaciqueCaribe In reply to OddGarfield [2017-01-12 01:38:23 +0000 UTC]

By the way, if you encounter any of those conspiracy nuts in your online travels, tell them that other than to make the background image on those photos transparent, the pin buttons are absolutely intact.  No alteration whatsoever.

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OddGarfield In reply to CaciqueCaribe [2017-01-12 02:15:14 +0000 UTC]

I'll be sure to do so, thanks.

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CaciqueCaribe In reply to OddGarfield [2017-01-11 23:40:44 +0000 UTC]

As a fictional Rebel (Captain Malcolm Reynolds) said once:  "Half of writing history is hiding the truth."

But they can't destroy all of it, even if all the people who witnessed history passed away.

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OddGarfield In reply to CaciqueCaribe [2017-01-11 23:44:53 +0000 UTC]

Indeed.

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