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And now we can confirm that the farmer certainly wasn't doing this for money, or sustenance for that matter
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Oh so he was just a straight up psychopath? Not even just a bad meat butcher?
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AHHH I dont like the word urges between air quotes!
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I'm glad to see the guy's actions explained, and glad to see that this story wasn't portraying farming/ranching as something that treats animals in this manner.
I hope they rescue some of the other goats.
Keep up the good work!
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I know some people are giving this story a bit of hate, but I do appreciate the meaning behind it. People are quick to rehome their animals during times of trouble and often do not follow up with these people. I've heard of people getting free puppies and kittens from the Craigslist and using them as bait animals or feeding them to their reptiles. To me this is a cautionary tale on being careful on who you give your animals to. If Dune's parents had asked to see the other goats they would have seen that this man was crazy and could have potentially saved the other animals!
I also like how Dune's parents are upgrading Dune's habit that. To me it shows that perhaps they did not do enough research to begin with on what goats need. A lot of people will get animals especially exotic ones and do not do enough research before hand. I personally work with a lot of reptiles and the amount of times an reptile is mistreated by not having the right supplies is astounding! Though it is not too clear in the beginning, I do believe Dune's parents were struggling with money because of Dune's upkeep.
I would like to know more about the man though. I want to know what his "urges" are. Was it some sick torture fantasy?
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I was honestly shocked that the owners didn't ask the guy if they could take a look at the other goats >.>
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I've adopted turtles before. I have a couple large enclosures out in my backyard and none of the former owners of these turtles have asked to see the enclosures or other turtles before handing their turtles away. One person asked if I had any experience with turtles and that was about it. I believe this is a common problem with many owners looking to rehome their pets. They are so eager that someone is interested in their pet that they neglect to do a proper background check.
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Ahhhhh Cloudyyyyy, please goat mom and goat dad go and adopt that baby too ;w;
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he doesssss ;3; one good boi who deserves a good home with lots of love <'3
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Wow. I'm glad that Dune is okay and I see some positive foreshadowing here... This has been an amazing story so far. There are memorable characters, dilemmas, and the hint at the farmer's psyche is an interesting plot twist. I feel like there were nods to the farmer's dysfunction which foreshadowed that this isnt just your typical money monger. His issues run way deeper than you can see. It makes me wonder how he got to that point in his life... Keep up the good work.
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I appreciate that, thank you <3
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Aw, that really ruins everything. =/ If he were to be just a regular farmer, doing his job, this story would have really deep meaning about farm animal cruelty and what is considered normal for human society, but what seems horrible from suffering animal point of view. In this case, it's just someone with sick mind and it takes away that potential for deep meaning since in this case it would be just the same if those were humans not goats. =/ A creepy, unsettling story with no higher meaning. I'm disappointed. I'd still recommend this as a nice read because art is beautiful, it's about animals and there is decent amount of pages, but that's it. Oh well, hope you don't mind some honest opinion/critique. Please don't block me!
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I'm glad the guy was shown as a psychopath and not a rancher or something, because I come from a family of cattle ranchers, and we don't treat our animals like that. The situation was confusing me because this is not how someone intending to kill the goats for food would treat them. (If you don't want to feed them properly, you butcher them right after buying so they don't lose weight, because weight is money.) Yes, we eat our cows, and sell others to slaughter, but they live in the pasture, and get fed so they're at a healthy weight, and when they have health issues, we try to get those treated.
And I also recently got goats. They're for eating weeds. Maybe once the herd grows, a few might get eaten, but for now, they're just weed eating pets who like to go on walks with me.
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I wasn't talking about the normal people who grow their own livestock and eat it when needed. If about regular farming, then there's the problem of selling animal to slaughterhouse. There would be nothing wrong with regular farming (like you described) if the owners kill themselves the animal, and not take to slaughterhouse. Then the animal doesn't experience fear and has lived a good life, being taken care of.
However I was actually thinking that the comic could have been about the kind of persons who don't want to invest in feeding their meat animals. They get profit from canned stuff they make as well as the skins and other stuff. While it's really smarter to kill animals before the weight is lost, there still are plenty cases when livestock is kept without enough food.
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Actually the story still has a good message, as Kaligem said, the message of the story is probably a cautionary tale about how, if you have to give away a pet, make sure they're going to a good home, be careful of who you give your animal to, do research and ask to see the living conditions and all that other stuff, otherwise you may end up with a situation like our poor Dune here.
Also, you seem to dislike the ending because it wasn't the ending you wanted, you sound like a whiny child.
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We do sell cattle to slaughter houses since we've got more than what we need to eat ourselves. I've seen some videos of slaughter houses, and I think if it's done right, it can be done with minimal fear to the animal. To the animal, they're just going down a narrow path, get restrained, and then it's over. A slaughter house would want to run efficiently, which means killing fast, and killing fast, with minimal fear, means better meat. (Animal rights places rarely share videos where it's done right.)
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Guess it depends on the slaughter house then, but the ones I've seen, even if killing is being done efficiently, let other animals see them being killed, which is very bad especially for herd animals, who are terrified by the scent of blood and death and the fear of dying animal, often screeching. The path isn't that narrow, as it lets at least 4 - 6 animals side by side, too.
Even if there are places where things are better that still doesn't change the fact that there are plenty of establishments where animals are subjected to unnecessary suffering.
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Considering the milk cow who wanted treats while we were skinning a dead and bloody beef, I think some people might overstate the fear animals experience by seeing one of their own dead.
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I take the beef was killed in home conditions? It's different when they don't suspect what's going to happen and feel no fear.
It goes to the psychology of herd animals to be terrified by seeing fellow herd members die and smell their blood. A survival instinct of community back from before domestication and times when domesticated cattle lived in wild.
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Yes but if cows always fear blood, the milk cow should have been afraid of us cutting up a beef in front of her. She wasn’t.
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It's not the blood alone. Animals smell fear. It's the terror of another animal PLUS the blood, and fresh-killed blood, too.
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True, though this was very fresh. We also had a chicken that came running when we butchered chickens. She wanted scraps.
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Like I said, they need to smell the fear. That's because when one animal from wild herd gets scared of something, everyone runs, that way they stay safe from danger (and are easily spooked).
Doesn't apply to birds obviously, as they don't form collective groups. Chickens are the least intelligent (and sensitive) of all birds, that's why people are keeping them.
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Totally understand someone not liking the ending of a story, but to me this comment reads, "This ending wasn't good because this story isn't another story.", along with an insinuation that because of this, there cannot be depth.
This isn't a story about a farmer. This guy advertised a goat sanctuary where they could live out their lives in peace, with the goat's family sending it there because they cannot financially support it. So right here this critique runs into trouble because you've disregarded a fact that was established on the 7th page and incorporated this falsehood into the critique. The story is about a supposed goat sanctuary on a ranch and therefore most likely wasn't going to be a commentary about how domestically farmed livestock are treated in the environment they're in because this isn't a farm. You can't hold that against the story just because that's the narrative you wanted to experience.
Examples of depth to this work:
- Dune's owners attempted to do the right thing by giving up Dune because they couldn't support him; they were trying to do their due diligence to give this animal a decent life. But in so doing they didn't go far enough, their attempts to help him landed him in a worse situation than they could possibly imagine. To such a point where Dune probably would've been better off if they just left him on a road somewhere and drove away. That's a big commentary on wanting to do the right thing, but stopping short too soon and making the situation even worse. They didn't investigate this "sanctuary."
- There's commentary here on the general apathy of people/whatever in a hopeless situation that they can turn around if they would just act as one unit. You have the cat as a bystander convincing them they're worthless and then you have the victims believing it. Dune was new to the situation and wasn't yet desensitized and was able to reestablish a sense of hope in some of them.
- Animals are left in situations without oversight and things like this story can happen.
Sorry to jump on you but this just wasn't fair. Didn't like the story? Cool. Fair. It's not my favorite work of the artist/author, perhaps more could have been done with it. But this story can't by definition lack depth simply because it wasn't the story you wanted to read. I hope you can understand why the premise of your critique isn't really fair.
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Well, that WAS the idea. That the story had so much potential to be something much more than it turned out to be. I still like the comic, because I always like animal comics, so I'm not hating it or anything, just saying that it could have been with higher meaning.
Not really. There actually are people who keep goats that way beforehand lying to their previous owners about ''paradise'' their pets will be getting. I KNEW it will be about someone with sick mind after spotted goat talked about that.
That's not very deep... Yes, they should have investigated the place, but that's just a common human error. Not much of deepness there. "Humans make mistakes, humans are naive." The end.
Yeah, that probably could be a more valid point. Not that it's a very common problem for people nowadays that they'd need revolutions, but at least that IDEA works, I give you that.
Not only can, but it has happened actually. Haven't heard of goats exactly, but cats and even dogs plenty. There are sick people who really do terrible and inexcusable things. It's a horrible fact of reality, but if the person is just sick and everyone is prepared to take action against them (if only they knew), then that still doesn't make it deep.
You're being unfair. Claiming someone's else's opinion "isn't valid" just because you don't agree with them is very rude. Especially when I stated that I DID like the comic, just that it could have been BETTER.
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I explained to you very carefully why your comment strains validity, and it has nothing to do with whether or not you liked it, or whether or not I agree. Maybe it would have been better if it was a farmer? I don't know. I'm open to that possibility! You're reducing my objection to your comment to simply, "This guy disagrees with me therefore he's being rude."
Not gonna argue and won't be discussing this further. I don't feel I can really clarify any more than I already have so therefore am not going to waste your time or my time further. We'll have to agree to disagree. Have a nice day.
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concerning Inkin-Oddity's reply, "the danger of not checking out who your animals go to" is what I was trying to say. I'm not the best at explaining things, clearly xD
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Nope, I understood perfectly the idea! It's a very good point to stress, too.
Also, I'm super excited that you'll be making another comic! Yay!
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*blocks violently*
lol, it's fine! honestly this story was never meant to be that deep. But I can see how one would assume that given the setting and the fact that it features a commonly neglected animal.
If anything (and this is just one way to look at the story), it's about how people are too quick to give up on their animals, especially ones that aren't "traditional" pets. Aside from any meaning the comic may have, it's just a story I came up with in high school that I wanted to finish.
Anyway, sorry for the disappointment. Hopefully you will find my next comic to be more satisfying!
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I see. Guess that makes sense then.
It's okay. I still liked the comic, because it's good regardless. C:
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Its clear from the beginning he isn't a normal farmer. Farmers, at least, feed their cattle so they make money by selling the meat. These goats were tortured and left to misery before either dying of natural causes(starvation) or being hacked by the guy himself.
Not to mention, he took pets. Goat breeds are selected for either meat, milk, or companionship. He had a wide arrange, leveling that there was no true concern for actual 'use'.
What you could take form this, is the danger of not checking out who your animals go to. This happens a lot with cats and dogs, who are taken in and used as target practice. People are untrustworthy, and there are steps and such for rehoming.
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Yeah, I know he wasn't normal. It way clear when the spotted goat spoke about him. I didn't mean regular farmer either, I meant the ones who really do neglect their animals, as they're only seen as resource stocks, waiting to be unitilized. Although that is forbidden by law, and people are obviously against such actions, it still takes place and by perfectly healthy individuals. I was saying he could have been like one of those persons. They don't sell meat itself, but instead canned versions as well as the skin and even bones. That earns them money (especially when they can get the animals for free) and they don't see reason to invest into properly feeding the animals.
True, that's a good explanation I suppose, but there's still very little of that message.
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Agreed about the guy. We have cattle and you don't starve something you plan on eating.
Male milk goats, like Dune, aren't useful since they don't produce milk, so they do normally get eaten. (They're skinnier than meat goats, but still edible.)
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Ah jeez, that sicko... I'm glad Dune's doing all right now
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