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Published: 2016-07-05 11:38:12 +0000 UTC; Views: 634; Favourites: 53; Downloads: 7
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Description Because the 'Torbay Express' had been reported 14 minutes late further up the line (it eventually passed us at about 12.20) the local service train from Paignton to Kingswear had been held back for it. Once the express had cleared the section, British Railways lined black 'Manor' 4-6-0 No. 7827 'Lydham Manor' came blasting up Goodrington Bank with the Kingswear stopper. I think only the ten BR-built 'Manors' were painted lined black, the earlier ones remaining unlined. All were repainted unlined black after blastpipe renewals in the 1950s and before the smart lined green livery came in. June 3, 2016 was the date of this shot.
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Steamking4468 [2016-07-05 17:58:05 +0000 UTC]

Last time I was here was 2011 and the following day did a rail tour from Bristol to Weymouth behind a Castle class, I forget which one. Earl of Mount Edgecumbe I think it was.

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County1006 In reply to Steamking4468 [2016-07-05 18:06:59 +0000 UTC]

Ah, I am still waiting to photograph that Castle! Thanks for faving Ben

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PaxAeternum [2016-07-05 11:59:15 +0000 UTC]

What is the story here?  Interesting usually I don't like the black schemes but this Manor looks good, very reminiscent of the only british black schemes I ever liked those being the Lancashire & Yorkshire and the LNWR.  Kingswear as in Kingswear road on the Met or somewhere different?

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County1006 In reply to PaxAeternum [2016-07-05 12:21:40 +0000 UTC]

Yes you're right in that the BR lined mixed traffic black was based on the LNWR version, probably because Robert Riddles, responsible for the BR standard designs, was a former LNWR apprentice. The early BR policy on liveries was that the top flight engines (Kings, Duchesses, A4s etc) would be blue (based on the Caledonian blue), the second level (Castles, Royal Scots, B17s etc) would be lined green (based on the GWR version) and Mixed Traffic engines lined black. All freight and 'lesser' locos would be plain black. This  latter included the first 20 Manors and most of the Granges, surprisingly as they were Mixed Traffic engines. When the last 10 BR-built Manors came out they were painted in the LNWR style lined black. Sadly the Manors didn't keep the lined livery for very long before going into unlined black after the blastpipe work.

The Kingswear here is in South Devon, on the estuary of the River Dart, opposite Dartmouth, where the Royal Naval College is. It was actually the destination for the old 'Torbay Express' in the days of steam. It's now one end of the Dartmouth Steam Railway.

Hope this helps a bit.

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