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Cpr-Covet In reply to ??? [2013-07-21 16:36:00 +0000 UTC]
Cool ^^ I still like fanart, but lately i've been doing original stuff. Its fun doing different things
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SirFailsalot91 [2013-04-30 19:22:34 +0000 UTC]
Original idea that you thought up all by yourself = under 20 views within a month
Something containing at least one of the above = one of the most viewed pieces in your gallery
^
This has been pretty much my whole existence here within seven-or-so years and an account move... I lost count of how long I've actually been here
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DarkVioletCloud In reply to SirFailsalot91 [2013-06-01 12:58:07 +0000 UTC]
This is me in a nutshell right here.
Heck, canon characters get more views than OCs.
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SirFailsalot91 In reply to DarkVioletCloud [2013-06-01 14:16:32 +0000 UTC]
Of course they do, mainly due to the fact they ARE canon and become well known among all fans, while OCs are usually limited to their creators and their circle of friends or, if they're lucky enough to have them, their fans
It's very rare that an OC gets a cult following of their own, especially if they're created for an already-existing series and it's much, much rarer that a single person's OC is actually implemented into canon by the series' creators; the only time I've seen a character thought up by a fan being implemented is when it was a winning entry to a contest, usually a children's contest and only for one instance(Abzorbaloff from the Doctor Who TV series was one of these)
Aside from that though, a person's OC becoming part of a series' canon is pretty much unheard of, but we can always hope
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DarkVioletCloud In reply to SirFailsalot91 [2013-06-01 14:20:49 +0000 UTC]
I just hate it that when my crappy 2-minute canon doodle gets so many more views than the 1-week drawing of my OC got.
Especially if the canon character only had a few seconds of screen time. (Vinyl Scratch, anybody? But background ponies are a hard issue.)
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SirFailsalot91 In reply to DarkVioletCloud [2013-06-01 14:54:05 +0000 UTC]
I often wonder why traditional art of pretty damn good quality receives less views than low quality MS-Paint edits of a pose base... doesn't really seem fair
I guess that, since they're more familiar with something remotely canon, people will search more for those things; since the BG ponies have become widely acknowledged due to the fans' collective headcanon about them, they are as much a part of the show as the main cast, so the fans' familiarity with them will lead them to search for them
Plus, OCs usually get a bad rep with the threat of them actually being Mary Sues or displaying Sue-like qualities due to their creator wanting to have some involvement in the canon, but wanting it to suit their desires as opposed to moulding their character to suit the environment first, so people tend to avoid them because of that (I personally find searching for such characters to be quite fun)
... and it's very rare people will actually go out of their way to search for OCs as opposed to simply stumbling upon them while looking for art of canon characters
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DarkVioletCloud In reply to SirFailsalot91 [2013-06-01 15:09:56 +0000 UTC]
I usually find OCs by going on the front page on here or searching through people's galleries.
I often wonder why traditional art of pretty damn good quality receives less views than low quality MS-Paint edits of a pose base... doesn't really seem fair
I agree with this.
I also hate bases. I mean, it's okay when one is doing it for a reference of their OC and they're too lazy to draw the poses themselves, but when bases are used for gifts or just a drawing that they posted, then that's unfair. Especially when the original artist isn't credited at all and the base user claims it as all their own.
I just don't like Alicorn OCs. I mean, some art of them is good, but, with the latest episode of MLP, they had to earn being an Alicorn, and the backstories of these Mary Sues don't seem convincing to me.
I've seen a lot of interesting OCs out there that deserve more attention, but instead the super tall rainbow and black alicorns get all the attention. (I hate that color scheme. It's so overused in so many OCs, whether MLP or not.)
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SirFailsalot91 In reply to DarkVioletCloud [2013-06-01 20:46:59 +0000 UTC]
Bases are fine, but using them over and over, especially when you don't credit the original creator, that just gets really annoying; referencing a pose or something is ok, but just abusing it by going over it in Paint is lazy
Yeah, Alicorns should be something special that occur once in a blue moon, but they're springing up like rabbits, simply because of the creator's longing for the canon to fit around their character instead of the other way around; there were originally three (Celestia, Luna and Cadance) before Twilight earnt her wings, but there are more OC Alicorns than you can count, which kinda ruins the point of the species
There are plenty of good OCs out there, but why people focus on the obvious Sues really gets me; maybe it's out of curiosity to see how bad they are, I dunno, but the views should be shared
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DarkVioletCloud In reply to SirFailsalot91 [2013-06-01 20:54:28 +0000 UTC]
I just can't stand it when all there is to a person's gallery is crappy bases that they claim as their own.
I wonder if people made their OCs Alicorns simply because Lauren Faust made hers as an Alicorn? I believe she has the exception, since she's the creator of the show and all.
But what I despise the most about Alicorn OCs is that they're royalty. Okay, royal families can be large, since they have to produce heirs, but not every single one can be the firstborn prince or princess. Why can't the creators be modest and make their OCs be upper class, at least? Nothing hurts by being a business mogul or an up-and-coming fashion designer.
I don't like people who take Sues seriously. (And that goes for all fandoms, especially Warriors. I hate all the -star cats. Not every cat can be a leader!)
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SirFailsalot91 In reply to DarkVioletCloud [2013-06-01 21:16:06 +0000 UTC]
Agreed
I dunno, maybe... I guess fans give her a pass since she created Gen 4's environment and mythology, (etc.) thus making her the equivelent of God, so I understand that much
OGODWOT that is REALLY pushing it, I get that the majority of little girls have fantasies of being princesses, but seriously? Your character HAS to be a princess to make them special? They don't have any individual defining trait that sets them apart from everypony else, they don't have a talent that no other pony is able to do, they NEED to be a princess? And have some sort of obscure or overpowered ability that even Celestia isn't capable of matching or a dark and miserable past to boot, but otherwise be perfect in every way?
No, just... just no... I can't deal with that
Sues that are OBVIOUSLY jokes or parodies, I find fun, but just the amount of them that are out there that some people think are perfectly justified is embarassing
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DarkVioletCloud In reply to SirFailsalot91 [2013-06-01 21:23:26 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, that's why I'm okay with Lauren's OC being an Alicorn. She's the creator, so she can do what she wants. (And her OC design is quite beautiful, in my opinion~)
Dear Celestia. I hate it when the OCs are just the most powerful characters, but what I hate more is when they pair their OCs up with canon characters. Okay, I admit doing that in Pokemon, but it was only for a roleplay that nobody saw except my partner, but if one says "Nuuuu mah OC is paird up wit [x pony] and u cant take him/her!!1!!" or something incoherent and stupid.
And the dark and miserable past thing. I'm okay with characters that have been slightly depressed or just bullied, but having something as drastic as being born in the middle of a war and being tortured by some big bad guy and all that crap makes for a really bad character.
A few of my friends in real life have Alicorn OCs. One of them has one as a princess that can see angels and departed spirits, and the other is a black-and-red Alicorn who's the CEO of the Rainbow Factory. I mean really? That's not interesting. That's overused.
I like parody Alicorns. They make me laugh when I find a serious Alicorn OC that looks like it. (Like the typical black and red/blue/other color scheme.)
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SirFailsalot91 In reply to DarkVioletCloud [2013-06-01 22:03:37 +0000 UTC]
CanonXOC pairings I can deal with, (I am particularly guilty of this ) so long as there's a good story behind their interactions and it isn't just "Oh, (canon character) loves me SOOOO much and would do anything for me because we were destined to fall in love" and all that My Immortal-equivelent lazyass writing
And canonXOC fanpairing clashes, jeez... so, they didn't take into account that there might juuuuuust be some possibility that someone else out there who has their own particular canonXOC pairing that contradicts their's? That maybe they AREN'T the only ones allowed to have a fanpairing with that particular canon character?
This is all I can use as a response-[link]
When inventing a Sue, a dark backstory is pretty much a must-have, along with an eye-raping colour scheme or a design that's obviously a parallel of a canon character, being related to a canon character in some way, (long lost or even direct siblings is very common) rediculously overpowered or obscure abilities that don't really fit into the series' canon, being someone greater than all the main characters combined, being able to get anyone they want to fall in love with them, being practically perfect in every way; you name it, it'll be thrown in there somewhere
As much as they want to make a character that makes them feel special, it's better to realise that the perfect ideal that they want will actually be pretty boring in the eyes of everyone else and that some of the OCs that get a positive reaction are usually the more believable and often, well... human ones; they have things that make them an individual, but they aren't totally super-special-awesome, they have just enough flaws that they aren't perfect, but they aren't total wimps either and they match a role that allows them to fit in with the world they're intended to be a part of, but that they don't outshine the canon cast
I could go on about this for hours, maybe even make a Journal about it all, but that'd take up too much room in a single comment
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DarkVioletCloud In reply to SirFailsalot91 [2013-06-01 22:09:42 +0000 UTC]
I just hate unrealistic CanonXOC pairings, and when the person acts like the canon character loves them in real life instead of just keeping it in a fanfiction. I've seen it happen, and the person was a total jerk about critique and such.
Oh my gosh. That image is so awesome. (I saved it to my computer.)
What really irritates me is when people support other's alicorn OCs and say "You're only saying they're overpowered because they're an alicorn!" which is true, with the "alicorns need to earn it" argument.
Ever seen the World's Worst Pony OCs tumblr? I'm looking at it right now. It's priceless. (I'd get a tumblr account just for the sake of following it. You know what, I'm gonna do that. I've been meaning to make one anyway.)
You should make a journal about it.
Or... I've been meaning to make a YouTube rant about the alicorn/overpowered OC deal. It'd be interesting to have you collaborate with me on a script about it~ (Though I'm not sure if I'd follow through with it. I'm a person who tends to drop big projects because of laziness. XD)
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DarkVioletCloud In reply to SirFailsalot91 [2013-06-02 12:41:13 +0000 UTC]
I constantly trade headcanons with my friends, but only because they know I can come up with the most convoluted things regarding any character. But I do know people with completely stupid headcanons that I would like to agree with but their attitude makes me not like it.
I was reading a tumblr yesterday that said that "Alicorns aren't overpowered!" and some reason that they're just unicorns with wings. I'm thinking, "Seriously? That's the opposite, you idiot." I'm not sure if the person had any idea what they were talking about.
I kind of wish Cadance wasn't an alicorn in the show, or that she would do more, since I think it makes people think that they can have less than godly powers and still be an alicorn. Though, I hate those who have godly powers on their OCs.
I saw a girl on ChickenSmoothie who named her unicorn OC Midnight Sparkle, a student of Princess Celestia whose talent is magic and is on her way to alicornhood. No joke. I wonder how long it took her to think that up?
Here: [link]
Some of these are amusing, some downright terrible, and the minority falsely accused.
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SirFailsalot91 In reply to DarkVioletCloud [2013-06-02 13:47:45 +0000 UTC]
It can be fun to see how rediculous you can make a headcanon, but when you see nothing wrong with it being a legit story and defend it as your actual plot basis, then we may have issues with that
But yes, stupid stories get me in gigglefits
What makes a Unicorn special is their magic, what makes a Pegasus special is their ability to fly and what makes Earth Ponies special is their connection with the land; putting those three together DOESN'T make a character overpowered? What a logical conclusion to draw!
Yeah, Cadance would've worked equally as well as a Unicorn, but maybe because the princesses are all Alicorns, Hasbro opted with making her one, too
Midnight Sparkle? A student of Celestia? On their way to Alicornhood?
Yeah, THAT'S never been done before...
These all HAVE to be joke, right?
I mean, they have to have been made this bad on purpose
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DarkVioletCloud In reply to SirFailsalot91 [2013-06-02 13:54:53 +0000 UTC]
Ever read Spiderses? (Or seem Rainbow Dash Presents video of it?) You'll get a kick out of that. It's so horribly written but that's why its great. Though, the story sucks.
But the video (not sure if the story does) contains an alicorn. XD
Consider this. What makes Pegasi special besides flight is interaction with the weather, but mostly flying. Earth ponies are good with animals and the earth. Fluttershy can do both. Would that make her a bit overpowered? Just wondering.
What would've made Cadance better was that she was originally a unicorn, at the least, but I think making her a pegasus at first (shown in the Crystal Heart book, which I've never read) sort of set the claim that alicorns aren't just originally unicorns.
But...
Can Earth ponies become alicorns? I wonder how that would be done?
The design of Midnight Sparkle is very close to Twilight. Just look at it: [link]
Some of them are serious. I kid you not.
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SirFailsalot91 In reply to DarkVioletCloud [2013-06-02 14:25:54 +0000 UTC]
A pony counterpart of My Immortal, I presume... so long as there's a dramatic reading of it, especially if it's full of terrible grammar and spelling, I'll be happy
I don't have an Alicorn allergy, but if it's a really bad one, it must be funny
Hmm... point made...
Maybe her care for animals replaced her weather skills, since she's one of the weaker flyers in Hurricane Fluttershy, but that's all I can guess... wouldn't surprise me if I'm wrong about it, though
It's starting to get pretty confusing
But I guess Earth Ponies have as much a chance as anyone at Alicornhood
What a coiiiincidence!
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DarkVioletCloud In reply to SirFailsalot91 [2013-06-02 14:31:03 +0000 UTC]
I honestly have no idea what My Immortal is...
Spiderses is a comedy about Twilight and Big Mac turning into spiders and they try everything, and I mean everything, to turn back to normal ponies.
Personally I think that the RBD version of it is better because Celestia narrates and her voice is so awesome.
I just always assumed that she never got any good practice at flying. I thought this because of people with athletic skills like running. You have to practice to be a sprinter, and if you don't, you can get tired out easily. Replace running with flying, and that's my view on Fluttershy.
Or maybe she's just naturally weak or something.
Or her fear overcomes her and she can't use her wings as well as she potentially could. (In Return of Harmony, she was going really fast when the Mane 6 were chasing Discorded Rainbow Dash.)
I'm just wondering how Earth Ponies would go about becoming an Alicorn. Would they have to use their animal friends or plants to channel through their magic to understand the power of whatever? (Like how Twilight's specialty is magic itself and Cadance's is love.)
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SirFailsalot91 In reply to DarkVioletCloud [2013-06-02 14:48:46 +0000 UTC]
My Immortal is a famously bad Harry Potter fanfic, arguably the worst fanfic or the best trollfic ever written; awful grammar and spelling, out-of-character main cast, Mary Sue as the main character, overuse of emo/goth elements in order to seem edgy... it's pretty much the pinacle of terrible fanfiction
Sounds like a hoot
Could be any of those, if not a mix of them all
No real clue, I guess it must be down to the tests set by the higher power (Celestia in Twilight's case) that help the pony focus on their special talent; if Magical Mystery Cure is anything to go by, the pony is destined to receive their Cutie Mark and becoming an Alicorn requires them to control their ability (like with Twilight learning to improve her magic) until they become a master of it
...
This is all just speculation, I'm not an insider on the whole subject, so I can't give a definite answer
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DarkVioletCloud In reply to SirFailsalot91 [2013-06-02 14:53:32 +0000 UTC]
I'm gonna go read that... because of procrastination, and because it sounds interestingly stupid. (I'm working on an animation and the timing is so frigging hard. I hate walk cycles.)
That sounds like a good answer. It's like someone's answer to why Cutie Marks happen. (I think it was Digibrony, from YouTube.) It was that a pony needs to know that they enjoy something and that they have the potential to do that, and that they can actually do it. But your answer to alicornhood is like the second level of Cutie Marks.
Hey! Maybe wings/horns/both is an actual second Cutie Mark to show that a pony can not only do their talent, but can do it at a master level!
That would be an interesting YouTube video to make.
Should I do that?
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DarkVioletCloud In reply to SirFailsalot91 [2013-06-02 15:05:28 +0000 UTC]
I looked it up on knowyourmeme.com and was generally frightened. I'm not sure if I really want to tackle reading it. I usually give up on reading fanfictions unless they're short. XD Which is why I'm never going to attempt to read Fallout: Equestria ever.
(I'm making the animation in Scratch, which consists of hard-to-use bitmap editors but fairly straightforward blocks... for making games.)
It'll be a fairly short video, like a what-if video.
Would you like me to send it to you if I do post it?
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DarkVioletCloud In reply to SirFailsalot91 [2013-06-02 16:34:02 +0000 UTC]
The backstory behind it is so... Like... I'm not sure if the author was a troll or not.
(Very fun.)
Okie~ X3
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DarkVioletCloud In reply to SirFailsalot91 [2013-06-02 16:49:13 +0000 UTC]
I was guessing it because of the "author"'s username, which is the typical emo attention-seeking girl's username. (I'm refusing to call her a true author.)
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SirFailsalot91 In reply to DarkVioletCloud [2013-06-02 16:51:16 +0000 UTC]
At least it's never been released by a liscenced publisher, that's all I'm thankful for
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SirFailsalot91 In reply to DarkVioletCloud [2013-06-02 19:05:44 +0000 UTC]
Agreed, but now that there are apps that allow anyone to "publish" their fanfics for all the internets to read, there may be a chance that we see crappy novels written by drooling fangirls or fanboys, even One Direction (another corperate-churned-out boy band that make the tween girls and their horny mothers weak at the knees for some strange reason) got their own fanfiction website... I am not kidding
50 Shades of Grey started out as a horny Twilight fanfic, but the author changed the setting and characters and bam! A Twi-hard has become famous from releasing a book about fetishes and bondage that was altered by simply using Find and Replace to get rid of the Blank Slate and her Sparkly Vampire love interest
My point being, don't underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups, especially with corperations dangling a carrot in front of them while pinching their pennies without them noticing
...
But yeah, My Immortal stands NO chance of being published as a legitimate novel
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DarkVioletCloud In reply to SirFailsalot91 [2013-06-02 22:29:21 +0000 UTC]
I know all too well what One Direction is. (I just came back from my cousin's graduation. At one point, his sister and all the other little girls started singing the "You Don't Know You're Beautiful" or whatever song. I hate that band so much.)
I already know about 50 Shades of Gray, and I read the first 3 books of Twilight. (Well, I didn't finish the 3rd.) Twilight is okay, but 50 Shades sucks.
There's probably someone out there trying to turn My Immortal into a coherent story...
You know, I wish some fanfictions actually were published as books or canon. The good ones, I mean, not 50 Shades of Crap.
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SirFailsalot91 In reply to DarkVioletCloud [2013-06-03 08:56:05 +0000 UTC]
OLAWD D8
There may just be, but that's a scary thought
Yeah, some are really REALLY good
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DarkVioletCloud In reply to SirFailsalot91 [2013-06-03 12:36:48 +0000 UTC]
I can think of only one right now that deserves canonization. It's called Simply Rarity. Go look it up on Fanfiction.net.
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Cpr-Covet In reply to SirFailsalot91 [2013-05-01 01:23:44 +0000 UTC]
Yeah x_x
Also
Something I spent days on that nobody is familiar with = hardly any views
A quick crappy mlp doodle = hundreds and hundreds of favs -_-
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SirFailsalot91 In reply to Cpr-Covet [2013-05-01 05:51:31 +0000 UTC]
It's unfair when people pick content over quality
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Cpr-Covet In reply to SirFailsalot91 [2013-05-02 03:17:38 +0000 UTC]
Exactly x_x but it doesn't stop me from putting my best effort
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SirFailsalot91 In reply to Cpr-Covet [2013-05-02 06:08:53 +0000 UTC]
Absolutely, better to have something you know you worked hard on than something half-assed that exists just to cash in on Pageviews
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Lightning-hydreigon [2013-04-25 12:09:23 +0000 UTC]
I don't draw fan art for attention. I draw fan art because its what I love to do, and it helps me see new interpretations of the characters I'm drawing
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Cpr-Covet In reply to Lightning-hydreigon [2013-04-25 23:40:02 +0000 UTC]
I like fanart also, I would just rather not commit to drawing it all the time
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Lightning-hydreigon In reply to Cpr-Covet [2013-04-26 00:08:19 +0000 UTC]
For me it's not really "hmm. I wanna draw fanart today" it's just sorta what I do
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KoopaKid17 [2013-03-17 00:58:57 +0000 UTC]
I wish I had a dollar for every gallery that consisted of just one of the above (ponies in particular).
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Cpr-Covet In reply to KoopaKid17 [2013-03-17 01:01:43 +0000 UTC]
I'm guilty of having some of it, but I don't draw it too much
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Cpr-Covet In reply to KoopaKid17 [2013-03-17 01:26:17 +0000 UTC]
Exactly
Unfortunately there are watchers out there who only want me to commit to drawing koopas
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Zelgeist92 [2013-03-16 22:17:03 +0000 UTC]
With all respect, you will not change interest of the people by stating obvious. People are aware there is more than that, they just aren't interested.
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Cpr-Covet In reply to Zelgeist92 [2013-03-16 22:45:09 +0000 UTC]
I know and they will not change my opinion either
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