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crayz β think about it - pt 2
Published: 2003-01-29 09:30:43 +0000 UTC; Views: 3321; Favourites: 43; Downloads: 228
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ok - whatΒ΄s going on lately in the world with the subject of war is weird.... in a bad way...it affects us worldwide...
there might be a lot of bad guys in governments all over the world
but to attack them and kill and injure a lot of innocent by it is not the right way...
there has to be a different one - and if they donΒ΄t know a good way,
war should be not the answer
they should use their brains to disarm them or talk and negotiate
to prevent things and work for peace
remember Benjamin Franklin said:
never has there been a good war or a bad peace
WAR? - not in the name of innocent - not in my name
if you agree to this please promote this work !!! thank you for attention
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Yes I like the whole picture thing it caught my attention and I like your way of making your statement but "fighting for peace is like" 'spreading a disease to find a cure' cause the term 'fucking for virginity' makes it sound like you are grasping in your desperation for attention and is unintelligent. Besides no one 'fucks' to gain 'virginity'.. Please! Yes I like the whole picture thing it caught my attention and I like your way of making your statement !
Previous wars have kept the balance in our economy and our freedoms. America is a country that strives for the future and third world countries need to catch up. Japan did a good job at catching up and going with the flow, Iraq should too.
Yes America the Sentinel (police) but if not us then who? Do ghettos need cops?
Do I hate war? Yes... as much as I hate the cause of it. Religion, money, power, prejudice, etc etc.
But radicals we have too much of even in America namely prejudice/religious.
we don't need more from the outside.
Are we under attack? Was 9-11 not enough to get your blood boiling? OH you weren't anywhere near that site and it doesn't affect you? Well what if your loved one had been a casualty then what would have been your point of view? An eye for an eye I say and if your brother get's in my way to defend you, well then his eye will do till I get to you!
Do I like fairness? Do you? I do!
If you were in Bush's place what would you do? After having to go see Ground Zero? What do you think your advisors would recommend you do?
Maybe 50% of you would say war the other 50% would opt for a peacefull solution but what about your advisors 50%-100% Just 50 to the right of war and... well do the math.
Japan did all right after that good old fashion spanking maybe Iraq will too!
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humans... "best beings"... the most intelligent creature... we would defend the life.
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a fantastic statement; I completely agree. And to all of you who say crap like "we do TOO need a war to bring peace" and "War sure freed the world from Hitler", keep in mind that it was war that created all the problems. Violence only leads to more violence. The sentence "Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity" is absolutely perfect. Peace CAN be kept if no war-horny monger from Texas rapes it, so to speak. If there were to be total peace all over the world at this very moment, people would understand.
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Sorry man, but i don't see any sense in what you're saying. War is evil and wrong, but at times there is no other choice. We destroy the psychos set on destroying everybody else. Sure, more psychos will be born, so we destroy them. flawed? Yes, but do you have any better ideas? Running around hugging trees will not help this time :-/
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Great work !!
i think we all should make some art about this subject
eXo
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Here here Matt! I agree with this whole heartedly. War is never a good thing and the people who propagate them rarely do it for just causes. Sure they might try and disguise war with talk of liberation and self-protection but in the end most wars are about money.
The one we will shortly be embroiled in is no exception, beneath it all, the war on Iraq is not about a regime change but about oil. Anyone who thinks differently should at least take the time to think twice.
In the end it will be the innocents who suffer the most from this conflict. Just another example of Democratic Imperialism in action.
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Your peace is an important statement.
Please consider my current journal [link]
if you are looking for an intelligent view of the situation. I didn't write it, all necessary info is there for you to trace the source.
It should counter most of the naysayers purile arguments.
Peace to the planet.
Don't trust the suits.
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I agree.
fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity.
everytime america fights they just fuck things up.
Peace.
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awesome man! fuck yeah! thats what i'm saying!
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Sitting in a centrally heated room knowing where that you will have another meal on time ... free education... surely all you cannot even begin to imagine wht those "innocents" go thru living there lives in underdeveloped third world countires, just cuz some ppl think saddam "might" attack... that is rather lame... its the oil he wants, and believe me iv studied this in detail... but do u seriously think its the right way to go about ... does a mother or a teacher kill a child they think might go evil... no one can order another country wht to do. that too a muslim nation its a soverignity thing if you guys forget... i absolutely hate sadam but im no big fan o mr.bush either... open ur eyes you guys cuz if you wont stop it this time it will get worse ... who'll b next?
its a power game ur politicians are playing and its about time you guys got it thru ur thick brains ... or as you say urself wht goes around comes around.
im not an american so i have no right to decide whtever the outcome... but being a muslim i do pray 5 times a day, praying fer ppl i dont know even the astrunauts who died yesterday... Dont do it! u'll all realize, or ur generations to come it was not worth it at all.
As fer the artpiece.... its ok i guess
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Well... I can not really right down what I feel about this pic... but I totally agree with it... so all I can do is ... great picture!...
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It is great to see so many of the deviant friends support the anti war statement here. But I see a repeating theme of "too bad we can't change anything". Here is the big surprise: We can change things - please read on ..
Being anti war people, we certainly will not take up guns and try to force things our way. But what is the weapon of choice for us? It is spreading the word and educating the rest of the public. If Bush finds out some day that 90% of US population are against war, he would not start it. Or if he has started a war, he will try to find a graceful way out and end it.
So we can all make a difference and Matt by posting this and every one by supporting it, is making a difference. Even if we can't prevent this war, it is our duty to express our opinion against it. Maybe we can prevent the next one, or shorten this one. Real peace loving people have no weapon but their intellect and determination. Let's use them.
Thanks Matt for posting this. Fav +
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I support the message, but there's a few things about it that just really irk me:
1. You spelled Gandhi's name incorrectly;
2. "Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity" is such a clichΓ©d phrase. Maybe finding something -original- would help you better get your message out.
Other than that, nice work.
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to say the world will be an ashtray after all may be an understatement,people like Bush are just marionettes of an Industrial nation,which allows it that weapons in all forms will come to use...
the only lack are these words...:
"let the games begin..."
they want their "command and conquer",and they will get it,in realtime,with "blood on"-feature,and ultimate 3d-effects,never seen before weapons,and multiplayer modus...
oh well...
how did we miss that,donΒ΄t we...?
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I like the message. It's would be a great utopia. However, in the present reality, the message is a bit naive. Some things are worth fighting for. Even Peace. The alternatives can be worse than death.
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wonderful - shocking - destructive - pensive - ... great conclusion
( that's what i think about your pics-each )
pity that your work won't change anything
... but it shows ppl are thinking about this subject !!
war is never a solution cause it's causing new problems ...
think we'll have to find AND support a better way!
it's not as easy as some may think- but it's concerning us all .. thx matt!!
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Here is a song i would like ppl read it.......
Why cant we live without fighting? [the humans]
Why cant we love us, if we are brothers?
Ever since the world is "world" History is done of wars.
[Request by a day of absolute peace in all Earth Request by Peace]
Human is the being strangest between the alive beings,
able to kill to another man without real reason.
If is most important the life than a meter of earth
why does we continue encountering thousand of times
over the same stone?
Request to see the seeded prairies of flowers
celebrating the spring,
request to see the children grow without fears,
that the love does not admit borders.
Request to see harmony between wolf and lamb,
cured old hurt.
Request to watch the sky, to give us the hand,
by our right to the life.
[[[Translation of RUEGO POR PAZ - Gabriela LoriaΒ΄s song]]]
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War is never a solution.
Great work here, Crayz!
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yeah, i agree to deevon... the slogan is quite amazing as well as the composition of the various photographies itself. great stuff you got there.
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that is quite possibley the best anti-war slogan ever. this is truley amazing. my jaw actually hit the floor.
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Wow....also echt....mir fehlen die Worte!!! O_O
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Glad to see this made it to the DTF. Indeed a good message to spread around. I'm sure I'll be repeating it, but that last line worked wonders. It fit so very well...AND was a bit amusing.
Thanks bud
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etherealsilence - "you're comparing the united states, a democratic republic that would never use WMD's in todays times unless World War 3 was upon us".... Wasnt GWB who said that he would go nuclear on this issue???? Wasnt it GWB who decided the democratic thing to do in the last US election was to NOT wait for a proper count that would have another man in his post..... democratic? peaceloving? WAKE UP!!!
Thanks for raising the thoughts Matt, lets pray to our gods for peace and ask our politicians not to fight in our gods names.... even if the god is oil.
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great work my friend , great message.
let's spread this message.
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i like it.... i here a lot of things like "this is not an protest side" or preventive action and something like we have to disarm sadam, and it sounds like an gΓΆbbles thing...
oh man the whole eye of the world is on the irak, what is with north korea, kolumbien,iran, and yet afganistan, and all in the name against terror,
thats an instrument of politics that legitimate that all presitent or dictator can take what they want to do...
cavez can also says the opposition of venezella is in the hand of terroristikal fraction ....
ok ...i dont like this war, no war.... its no solution thats for this people a new kind of terror, terror is modern , and for big strong nations is terror not controllable... its for me an kind of
moder gerillia tactic...
and finally art is an mirror for the world its not an protest its the last chance, an help, an motor ,its the best thing..... and some times a better help as diplomaty
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To whoever said that Iraq is run by a dictator and that America is democratic:
Wake up.
Look at it properly. Bush got voted in by some phoney election, and if America was actually "democratic" Bush wouldn't even be president.
And if tyrants scare you, how's this? What sort of monster would go against the UN and attack a country without its approval? Oh my oh my..
America is run by a dictator. Wake. Up.
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Cool.
I'm just wondering where all you people were when this [link] happened.
Oh, well. Better late than never. I s'pose.
No +Fav cause I don't think it's original, and the line "Fighting For Peace..." etc...is a bit old in my book - but still, great message - and that's what matters.
I just wish it were a little more angry and a bit less resigned.
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well, the photos are inded beautifull, but they don't impress me much. The text is very nice. But what i belive that deservs the +fav, is the concept. Really nice, really nice..
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No, I disagree with you. If war is the last possibility to get free, it's worth to fight.
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Look at my statement to the iraq-crisis [ ]. Please comment.
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i do not believe there could ever be peace
wether you fight a war or not
we are damned if we do, damned if we dont
technically your overall artistic image isn't that great
the series just doesn't flow well together
the photos themselves are lacking in some luster
your political statement is very well put through
that i will give you
not bad. maybe a better way to explain it?
maybe?
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I totaly agree. War is and has always been stupidity, but unfortunately there are too many stupid people out there who play their games with innocent people. It seems that it is almost like a computer game for them.
Anyway the very good point to keep in mind is not to listen to those leaders who use most of the time exclamatory sentences - it shows that they are too weak to make their point in a normal explaining way.
Again, a very good deviation !!!
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send this to Bush.
i love that phrase dude.
Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity
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good statment. now if only the people could get it in their heads.
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Yep. Interesting guys, war has a place. A place that will be there until we all unite as one nation world-wide. Since I don't see that happening soon war it is.
Good luck to the world
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War is no solution... But in my opinion the USA will attack!
Sadly
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i agree with v3fusion.. at the end of the day u cant do nuthin... and also sadam wont listen.... and the only way we can actualy stop him is to use violence cos he wot listen... i dont think bush or blair want any of this like most of the ppl but thats the way it is...
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It is not for us to decide anyway. How do you know your choice is right? No one can see all ends. And even if we want it to stop, who will listen? There have been anti-war protests already. This is an art site...this is more like a protest submission.
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Violence is a language and we can use it ... but Sometime we can speak, sometime it's better to shut up. In the case of Irak, i am not sure of the reel motivation of Us Government, but surely this is not a war for freedom and maybe it's time to shut up!
So Mr Bush Can put your mouth in stand by ... You make to much noise, I can't hear the other voice. Thanx Speak when it's your turn.
HaN
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Well I am American and it sadens me that out leadership in this country is tottaly hell bent on war even though it can not yeild any positive results, +fav to this one. Great message
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i heard that fucking quote b4 ;P its great ;P
this needs a fav coz i madly agree.
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in this instance you may be misguided but I like your heart
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