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I hate posting rage comics on my dA, but man it's the only thing that gives me comfort at this point.If you want to support the effort to get good endings DLC for ME3:
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Well, we need to stop trying to demand a better ending for me3. It's over now, so we might as well just hope that me4 is better. c:
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I wanted Shepard to die by the end of that. It just worked. Good finality. Ok with the crew stranded, too. Tali, Liara, and Joker? Yeah, that could work. What happened to everyone else? There's a big crew, they'd repopulate. Or, you know, miraculously and inexplicably manage to repair a ship that was destroyed by the most advanced technology in the galaxy... That'd work, too... wut?
Fridge logic: In a crash, wouldn't the fact that JOKER HAS BRITTLE-BONE DISEASE mean that he'd have almost zero chance of surviving and be nowhere near walking shape if he did survive?
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Well they said they were going to rebuild the relays and in the extended cut you see the Normandy fly off the planet and Alliance talks about rebuilding the relays (I guess they can now that they have the data [or atleast mass relay device] from Ilos).
I just finished the game (yeah yeah late to the party)
Yeh WTF
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My advise? Play the Happy ending mod, [link] then after beating the game with that go back and play the Citadel DLC (only has a couple lines you have to ignore to pretend it happens after the war ends) and everything is like a beautiful song.
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"oh, I'm sorry Bioware. I was under the misapprehension you WANTED me to buy any of your other products ever again. DLC? Not a chance. Dragon Age 3? Nope. Hell, I even shelled out cash for those unimpressive tie-in comics. Not any more. Enjoy my $60. It's the last of my money you'll ever see."
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To all the people going "INDOCTRINATION!" No. You're rationalizing, if nothing is done to amend the endings, I'll buy into it because it's making the best of the shit sandwich we were dealt, otherwise, you're being counter-productive.
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I wouldn't say they're rationalizing. At least for me, I see Indoc theory as an idea the fans are proposing for Bioware to use as an easy out. An idea for fix DLCs that would fit with what they're already made. A "compromise" would be a more appropriate term I think. "Hey, you made this crap thing. I won't make you get rid of it, but please add to it so it's negated". Lol.
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I would agree with this if a good chunk of the Indoctrination Theorists didn't go around preaching said theory as the ONE TRUE ANSWER...it's very...cultish?
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I can't speak for them, lol. For me, it's just a cool idea. *shrug*
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Is that why you guys hate it? It wasn't that bad? Did you want a happy ending?
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the reason people hate it is because you spend the entire game get war assets and in the end no madder how many you get its the same a glowing kid basically ask what do u want a green, blue or red explosion
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The OPTION of a happier ending that is super difficult to get and requires a lot of effort is what I want at least. I was even expecting a 'Shepard dies, Reapers win' ending if you really just blaze through the game and not have enough war assets.
Most people I've talked to are not unhappy with the depressing endings themselves. Just the fact that there is no variety in endings apart from depressing. Of course we were expecting our friends and comrades to die, and planets to be sacrificed, but the poor writing of the ending makes every sacrifice your allies have made and every choice you picked over the course of 5 years of following the ME series meaningless in 15 minutes. I personally would not have minded sacrificing my Shep if it meant that I would get closure on what happens to the galaxy and my companions as a consequence of my choices. Not a galactic dark age or committing galactic genocide, effectively doing the Reaper's job for them. For a game that has emphasized player choice as a marketing strategy all this time, jerking away control (even if it is an illusion of choice) from the player is jarring and frustrating.
Not to mention that the very existence of the Catalyst opens up huge plotholes in the events of the previous two games. Not just in the ME3 ending. In fact, the catalyst itself is a violation of a golden rule in storywriting: never put a 'deus ex machina' (god in the machine) in the story. With the rest of a series that is pretty solid in terms of storytelling, why did they choose to break an unwritten law of fiction for the finale of the most anticipated game of the year, and the finale of one of the most popular sci-fi trilogies in recent memory?
I'd chalk it up to time constraints. I heard they were still working on the ending in November last year.
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I expected a large variety of options. We got three almost identical endings. And personally yes, I wanted a happy ending. Nothing wrong with darker endings, I just thought we'd have some control over the ending we got.
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aaaannnnddddd to add something useful to the picture here...
i have to say this did make me laugh (its what happened when my friend told me about the half-assed endings to this game)
and for the whole "indoctrination" theory, i heard it was disproved by a Bioware employee, mightve even been casey hudson himself (something i read when surfin the webs, so might not be true). the bottom line is that were literally trying to make ourselves believe the endings are something different than what it already is. when we're given so little at the end, not to mention after given so much to play with and stuff like that, its really unfulfilling to finish the game and make yourself believe that there is some closure to it all. hell, there wasnt even a boss fight in the end, just you defending two missile systems that you eventually get to fire and kill ONE baby reaper. (so basically the fate of the galaxy rested upon two missile trucks... wow)
what am i trying to say here? ME WANTS NEW ENDINGS!!!
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I'm quite ready to buy into the Indoctrination thing. It makes far more sense that way than if we accept what we saw at face value.
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And then he said to an invisible Casey Hudson in his best Mordin voice, "Unacceptable endings. Unacceptable plot holes. Won't change. No choice. *sniff* Have to kill you."
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Lady, your husband is an awesome dude.
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Yep. I agree wholeheartedly.
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If you get the "perfect" ending, you see Shepard moving in a pile of rumble. I like to take it that it was a dream, the whole child-god and all that. I'm hoping there is DLC that takes that ending in that Shepard did dream the whole thing and now you really need to destroy the Reapers.
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The ending is an indoctrination attempt, the only one where it's not a failure is the Destroy option. They might as well have put big block letters "INTERMISSION" instead of the Credits. They should have called this Mass Effect 3 Part 1. I think it's the same thing they did with the last Harry Potter movie.
It IS however a shameless conceptual rip-off of this: [link]
- Big Red Beam
- A galactic tranport network is blown up in a chain reaction by said red beam propagating through it
- the superweapon has petals, 5 for Citadel, 8 for Black Sun
- UEF/Aeon want to enslave/destroy all Cybrans, Reapers want to enslave/destroy all sentients.
- interestingly, in the last UEF mission counterpart to this you have to nab a critical Black Sun component off an island the Aeon commander has sent a fleet to guard, inspiration for Catalyst?
(Note: if interested in SupCom, do not buy SupCom 2, get Supreme Commander 1 and Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance, the stand-alone expansion, off Steam. Learning SupCom 1 will help make the learning curve in FA not overwhelming even though some aspects changed such as less OP experimentals and far more aircraft health relative to anti-ground weapons so your air fleet won't get caught and destroyed on the ground instantly by a few tanks)
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I'm aware of that, and if they make a DLC I'll be cool. If they don't that completely and utterly is not good enough. Lol
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I know many people believe the ending(s) were horrible, and they seemed rushed... but fans don't have to complain to the point where they start getting rude and mean towards Bioware. They made awesome games, including the third Mass Effect. It may seem Bioware is starting to appear greedy, but I don't believe that's their intention. Maybe they wanted to make us feel upset and emotional- which was a good part of the game and their intentions- definitely effected my emotions.. But maybe they wanted to surprise us when they release new DLC that involves more things and ways to prepare for the end- including new endings. It is rumored there are more than 3 endings, correct? Look at Fallout 3. There was a DLC they released for the ending that allowed the player to live and continue playing after the game (Broken Steel). Perhaps Bioware will do the same for ME3.
They did say there will be ~news~ in a week or so about updates/or DLC. I say, give them a chance- because it is VERY possible for them to fix some of the many things we are very disappointed about.
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The ending is an indoctrination attempt, the only one where it's not a failure is the Destroy option. They might as well have put big block letters "INTERMISSION" instead of the Credits. They should have called this Mass Effect 3 Part 1. I think it's the same thing they did with the last Harry Potter movie.
It IS however a shameless conceptual rip-off of this: [link]
- Big Red Beam
- A galactic tranport network is blown up in a chain reaction by said red beam propagating through it
- the superweapon has petals, 5 for Citadel, 8 for Black Sun
- UEF/Aeon want to enslave/destroy all Cybrans, Reapers want to enslave/destroy all sentients.
- interestingly, in the last UEF mission counterpart to this you have to nab a critical Black Sun component off an island the Aeon commander has sent a fleet to guard, inspiration for Catalyst?
(Note: if interested in SupCom, do not buy SupCom 2, get Supreme Commander 1 and Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance, the stand-alone expansion, off Steam. Learning SupCom 1 will help make the learning curve in FA not overwhelming even though some aspects changed such as less OP experimentals and far more aircraft health relative to anti-ground weapons so your air fleet won't get caught and destroyed on the ground instantly by a few tanks)
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I see all of the similarities but there are many other stories that have similar ideas because it's common in that type of genre. Perhaps it was inspiration- we do know for a fact they got a lot of ideas from the older SciFi movies and shows. Look at event horizon. That's one that seems similar. Not everything is going to be different in every way. I can understand why you think it's a rip off.. maybe its coincidence. Who knows, really.
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Glad to know I'm not the only one who thinks that. I'm satisfied with the ending as is. It really gets at your feelings like other points in game do, (Mordin, Thane and Legion, R.I.P.) and to me makes it seem that in order to give the galaxy a happy ending, you have to give up your own. Life isn't always the main character lives happily ever after.
Although I understand that people want a different ending and I respect their desires, yelling and threatening BioWare doesn't do anything. Nor does demanding DLC from them do anything. It will come, one just has to have patience.
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I WOULD be okay with the indoctrination attempt they called an ending (unless you choose Destroy, in which case they should have put "INTERMISSION" instead of Credits, it is in fact an ending where Reapers have begun farming organics by seeding populations and waiting for them to grow)
Though I don't repect their concept rip-off of this, given their laziness with Tali's phot's HAND anatomy and other bits of laziness: [link]
- Big Red Beam
- A galactic tranport network is blown up in a chain reaction by said red beam propagating through it
- the superweapon has petals, 5 for Citadel, 8 for Black Sun
- UEF/Aeon want to enslave/destroy all Cybrans, Reapers want to enslave/destroy all sentients.
- interestingly, in the last UEF mission counterpart to this you have to nab a critical Black Sun component off an island the Aeon commander has sent a fleet to guard, inspiration for Catalyst?
(Note: if interested in SupCom, do not buy SupCom 2, get Supreme Commander 1 and Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance, the stand-alone expansion, off Steam. Learning SupCom 1 will help make the learning curve in FA not overwhelming even though some aspects changed such as less OP experimentals and far more aircraft health relative to anti-ground weapons so your air fleet won't get caught and destroyed on the ground instantly by a few tanks)
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Yeah. It depresses me. I'm waiting patiently for the DLC, unlike all those bioware-haters now. I could/would NEVER hate Bioware or Mass Effect. I've been in love with the universe for far too long anyway. It's crazy to see people that say "I am never playing another mass effect game in my life because all we are going to get is the same outcome by the end! blah blah blah"
Going paragon for Mordin.. I'll watch the vid and I think once he's done- you know why doesn't he run back to the elevator? think he could've made it down safely? lol...Gosh, how much i cried after seeing that.. it ruined a few of my days after that- being so depressed.. xD I care for the characters that much and I know other people do too.
As for Legion- who is my favorite character of all(besides Garrus)... I couldn't bare it. I always wonder if it would be possible for him to come back but in another geth body or something............. That's doubtful... but... oh the fantasies Q_Q I'm always a Paragon person... but I watched the outcomes for Renegade shep for Mordin and Legion... man did that tear my heart to shreds!!!
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I love Mass Effect as well, ever since the first one came out back in 2007. And as I said, I liked the ending because of how bittersweet it was, just like the rest of the game. Honestly, it tore me up when I watched Mordin, Thane and Legion die, since those were three of my five favorites (the other two being Garrus and Tali), but I also enjoy the fact that they died for a good cause (Mordin for curing the genophage, Thane for the salarian councilor, and Legion for his people).
But while I enjoyed the ending, I wouldn't mind new DLC endings in the future. But like you, I am being patient, and not losing it and making threats and demands because I'm not getting it now. Bioware has confirmed they plan to release DLC in the future and they are taking the players feedback seriously. So in short, people will most likely get what they want in the end. And if not, well you can't get everything in life. But I won't worry about that until Bioware says they aren't making more DLC.
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Yeah. Also there are rumors of multiplayer DLC where you get to play as a Geth engineer, geth infiltrator, asari justicar, batarian soldier/sentinel. I sooo wanna play as a geth >w<
By the way I discovered Mordin can live! but it requires some renegade and Wrex to be dead, Maleon's data destroyed. :/ So unfair.. but he goes to help out on the crucible. still makes me happy to see him alive.. >.<
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Interesting. I look forward to any DLC that will expand the gameplay. Though I think that Bioware should probably first start by releasing DLC for different endings. But that's not my preferred opinion. I'm just saying it because I have a feeling that if they release something other than that first, well, let's just say the outbursts will probably be a lot worse than they are right now.
Also I take it Mordin is one of your favorites. As I said in my last comment, he is one of my five favorites, (the other four being Thane, Legion, Garrus and Tali).
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Yep.
they confirmed they are working on dlc for endings. More news next month.
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i know how rage is.. [link] Not as big a deal, i was utterly disappointed by the ending also..
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Nice spoilers for those who haven't played the game.
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Says in the title "ending spoilers" in bold.
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omg, now i have to lose it all over again. they can make a sitcom game and release a new adventrue every week, i wanna be gilligan.
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