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Description ~JakobDailes asked about a fashion show from Athens and Sparta for some ideas. I figured what the heck I'll make it into an ongoing project since I need to get their clothes straightened out in my head anyway. That and I need to practice drawing manatomy. So... expect more of these.

I'll just copy paste the descriptions of their clothes from tumblr 'cause I'm lazy.

Before we start
CHITONS ARE NOT TOGAS. The Romans called the chitons "tunica" and they were rougly equivalent to the Roman tunic, which would be worn under a toga.

Athens (right)
Here Athens is sporting an ankle length chiton pinned on the left shoulder, as was appropriate, since only barbarians would leave their left shoulder bare. They could also be pinned on both shoulders. When pinned only on one shoulder like this, the chiton is called an exomis... although I think a proper exomis would be knee-length or shorter.

Chitons were sometimes considered a very “feminine” garment, as Aphrodite was often depicted wearing one, but they were worn by both men and women alike without any problem. The length of a chiton could be changed by pulling fabric up over or under the belt to make it longer or shorter respectively. It was considered inappropriate for women to wear chitons that showed off their legs… or anything, really. XD

Contrary to popular belief, the Ancient Greeks usually didn’t wear white undecorated clothing. Men’s colours were more muted than women’s, but there was still a very wide range of them!

Even though many Greeks didn’t wear things on their feet, Greece was very well respected (at least by Rome) for sandals. City-folk might have worn sandals with thick soles to make them appear a bit taller and prevent their feet from getting too mucky on the streets.

Sparta (left)

You know sometimes I think scholars just call everything chitons. This has sleeves. Is it a chitoniskos? Is it something completely different?

Let’s pretend it’s a chitoniskos for a sec. A chitoniskos was a chiton that didn’t go any lower than the knees for maximum movement and was worn by labourers and soldiers. That’s the basic gist of it. For some reason I associate the particular type Sparta is wearing with Mycenaean clothing, idk why.

Oh, by the way, Spartans were forbidden from wearing chitons after age 12. They probably could start wearing them again around the age of 30. Until then, they had to make do with a tribon... which is coming up next.

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I hope this helps a bit. ;w; If not, it's at least helping me draw men and accurate clothing so yay I win.

If you need any models for female Greek clothes, I can recruit Fem!Athens and Fem!Sparta. XD
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Comments: 12

Carnage-dog [2012-02-04 06:23:48 +0000 UTC]

look at those manry legs

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Hapo57 In reply to Carnage-dog [2012-02-04 17:50:51 +0000 UTC]

Yep yep I've been practicing. XD

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Quatschmachen [2012-02-01 05:14:14 +0000 UTC]

Sorry my mind went "blablablablablablba -stares at those legs- blablablbalbalbalba -stare stare-"

Like Classics class all over again but with legs instead of hands. :s

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Hapo57 In reply to Quatschmachen [2012-02-01 06:00:14 +0000 UTC]

yeah I've been practicing my manly legs
I don't have any tutorials on how chest hair grows though, just tutorials on where it grows depending on ethnicity. bleh hair

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Quatschmachen In reply to Hapo57 [2012-02-05 08:03:51 +0000 UTC]

That should be a photography guide. "These are naked hairy people from Turkey" "These are naked hairy people from France"
Compare and contrast their naked hairyness.

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Hapo57 In reply to Quatschmachen [2012-02-05 08:06:14 +0000 UTC]

Maybe that is your life goal.

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Quatschmachen In reply to Hapo57 [2012-02-05 08:18:32 +0000 UTC]

.... reading instructions?

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Phantasm1 [2012-01-30 05:56:02 +0000 UTC]

Both men and women were the same thing (well same garment) that's strange in a way since Greece seemed so sexist (but I don't know much about this stuff) though the whole keep yourself covered seems pretty in line of what one would expect. So Sparta wears warrior's clothing?

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Hapo57 In reply to Phantasm1 [2012-01-30 06:02:19 +0000 UTC]

Well, to a degree. Women were not allowed to show off their legs the same way men were, so they would wear longer chitons and cover themselves much more. There were also different sorts of ways of pleating and pinning things that would be more masculine or more feminine.

Of course he does, he's basically a full time warrior. XD

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Phantasm1 In reply to Hapo57 [2012-01-30 16:05:53 +0000 UTC]

Pleating and pinning had ways of being more masculine or feminine? How did that work?

Yes I know, it was late and I was pointing out the obvious, because I'm silly.

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Hapo57 In reply to Phantasm1 [2012-01-30 19:43:19 +0000 UTC]

Ah well the ionic chitons with the holes in the sleeves were considered much more feminine, etc. etc. Women also wore brighter colours. I think it's relatively easy to see in my drawings but I'll probably get around to doing more detailed explanations for women's clothes ONCE I FIGURE OUT WHAT A PEPLOS IS.

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Phantasm1 In reply to Hapo57 [2012-01-30 19:50:44 +0000 UTC]

I can't help you figure out what a peplos is. Oh so they have bright colours (weird since I think that's also a difference in men's vs. women's clothing now that and men's clothing is clearly for giants)

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