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Published: 2016-08-31 02:41:10 +0000 UTC; Views: 12762; Favourites: 375; Downloads: 91
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Description Sooo, this happened.
Rumors about such a specimen were online for quite some time but now it is published and I think many have heard of it already.
I'm speaking about a paper describing a new specimen of the Liaoningosaurus, a basal ankylosaur from China.

The authors of the paper make three extraordinary claims:

1. This species was a predator and ate fish (and maybe other stuff).
2. liaoningosaurus was a semiaquatic animal.
3. The animals found so far are all adults, which would make Liaoningosaurs, with 27 cm, the smallest orinthischian.

This is pretty darn awesome, but unfortunately require extraordinary claims extraordinary evidences.
The paper did in this case not the best job. Many more methods could have been used on the specimen.
Stuff like microwear analysis of the teeth, UV photography, X-ray etc.

I think that all the stuff proposed by the authors here is possible,  and I hope they are right, but the hypothesis stands on weak paws
in the moment.

Because of this I present here Liaoningosaurus not in the most crazy way. We have evidence for juvenile dinosaurs sometimes living away from the adults we also know that they must have been able to swim, just how good remains to be shown. I have some idea how it could have hunted fish but I think it's safer to show it in an more neutral behavior in the moment.
While being more conservative in my approach here the  burrow from which a specimen comes is my little bit of speculation here

More work this animal needs to be done and I'm sure some pretty interesting stuff will await us in the future.

In other news:

The large Theropod paper I spoke about recently was just released, have a look on the "Monster von Minden"!
palaeo-electronica.org/content…
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Comments: 86

Saiyanstrong [2018-07-06 07:14:34 +0000 UTC]

A predatory, semi-aquatic ankylosaurid.  Awesome.

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Jakeukalane [2016-12-14 13:00:29 +0000 UTC]

superb

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AerodynamicDragon [2016-11-07 18:35:22 +0000 UTC]

My spirit animal

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Evodolka [2016-11-03 19:35:59 +0000 UTC]

i love how we have found more semi aquatic dinosaurs

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Corallianassa [2016-09-21 18:12:04 +0000 UTC]

I think ankylosaurians may have occasionally behaved like hippos.
They have a similar anatomy, and I think Duane Nash pointed out their jaws weren't as derived and good at chewing through tough plants as ceratopsians and hadrosaurs, so I suggest it maybe ate soft water plants ( while Nash proposes dung and eggs...)
Ankylosaurus and Lianoningosaurus both lived in areas with enough water.
So even if this paper turns out be completely wrong, I think Liaoningosaurus still may have been at least slightly semi-aquatic.
Liaoningosaurus also lived alongside Yutyrannus, maybe it was avoiding it by swimming?

Any thoughts and constructive criticism is appreciated.

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Batterymaster In reply to Corallianassa [2017-11-20 16:39:47 +0000 UTC]

I like the idea. Ankylosaurs already have a little bit of a turtlish look to them, so it wouldn't surprise me if they chilled out in lakes every now and then.

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Macrocanthrosaurus [2016-09-06 12:25:15 +0000 UTC]

No way! I hope that claim 1 is true...

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PCAwesomeness In reply to Macrocanthrosaurus [2016-09-07 01:09:54 +0000 UTC]

Sorry to rain on your parade, but it probably wasn't.

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Macrocanthrosaurus In reply to PCAwesomeness [2016-09-07 12:12:39 +0000 UTC]

No worries, skepticism is perfectly fine!

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PCAwesomeness In reply to Macrocanthrosaurus [2016-09-07 21:50:08 +0000 UTC]

OK; thank you!

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Gwyndor [2016-09-04 11:15:57 +0000 UTC]

Ahh die Rekonstruktion gefällt mir ziemlich gut
Es wäre wirklich erstaunlich, wenn sich die Theorie als wahr entpuppt, auch wenn es vielleicht unwahrscheinlich ist.

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Zippo4k [2016-09-04 04:15:07 +0000 UTC]

So, without having read the article... I can believe claims 2 & 3, but it will take quite a bit to convince me of 1 because, frankly,

Now, I guess I could see them feeling on shell fish and aquatic arthropods, but I'd be more inclined to believe they would be doing so opportunistically and otherwise foraging off of aquatic plants.

Being adept at swimming or even living near water is not that unusual if one thinks of armadillos, which are actually fantastic swimmers and can even run along riverbeds. This ability comes from their fossorial adaptations (spatulated claws are good for digging and swimming, they can hold their breath which is good both underwater and when digging to prevent dirt from getting in their noses, etc.) Star nosed moles and also forage underwater.

Then there are turtles that both dig and swim... but all these analogues fall short because these are all terrestrial animals with squat bodies, many of whom are armored who only took to the water later (turtles possibly being an exception) where as here sounds like the opposite?

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asari13 [2016-09-03 20:57:09 +0000 UTC]

cool

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Ceratopsia [2016-09-03 02:15:55 +0000 UTC]

Of all of the things I was expecting to see in the latter of 2016, I never thought that something along the lines of a carnivorous (at the least piscivorous), semiaquatic Thyreophoran (Ankylosaur) would show up. And a very small one at that.

2016 has brought us very remarkable discoveries in the field of Paleontology, yet the year is far from ending. 

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to Ceratopsia [2016-09-03 12:38:12 +0000 UTC]

Indeed, that was quite unexpected

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AntFingers [2016-09-02 07:15:43 +0000 UTC]

I actually HOPE that this is true.

I want a game where I can play as a saurian platypus.

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to AntFingers [2016-09-02 22:19:57 +0000 UTC]

Hehe, me too  

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AntFingers In reply to Hyrotrioskjan [2016-09-03 00:47:53 +0000 UTC]

 

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AVCDPS [2016-09-01 02:31:05 +0000 UTC]

They are so adorable.
I like how you added speculation yet it's still plausible.

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to AVCDPS [2016-09-01 18:53:03 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

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mrplcole [2016-09-01 00:41:50 +0000 UTC]

the skeleton looks kind off like a beaver or platypus, eeeehhhh?  

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to mrplcole [2016-09-01 18:52:48 +0000 UTC]

A little

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PCAwesomeness [2016-08-31 23:43:45 +0000 UTC]

This is just as amazing and plausible as allosauroids sawing through bones with their super-serrated tongues!

Anyways, nice drawing as usual.

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mrplcole In reply to PCAwesomeness [2016-09-01 01:03:11 +0000 UTC]

Allosauroid whats???

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PCAwesomeness In reply to mrplcole [2016-09-01 01:07:41 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, you saw my comment; there is a theory that says that allosauroids "were able to saw through bone with the help of their super-sharp tongues".

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mrplcole In reply to PCAwesomeness [2016-09-01 02:11:28 +0000 UTC]

Say whaaaaa

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PCAwesomeness In reply to mrplcole [2016-09-01 02:16:46 +0000 UTC]

Yeah; it's a bit ridiculous.

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mrplcole In reply to PCAwesomeness [2016-09-01 02:29:05 +0000 UTC]

Any links you could give me?

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PCAwesomeness In reply to mrplcole [2016-09-01 02:41:32 +0000 UTC]

Just look at Antediluvian Salad.

(I mean, 75% of the theories there are implausible, this being one of them)

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Yutyrannus In reply to PCAwesomeness [2016-09-01 01:56:10 +0000 UTC]

Teeth, not tongues.

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PCAwesomeness In reply to Yutyrannus [2016-09-01 02:03:17 +0000 UTC]

OK.

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slothChija [2016-08-31 22:48:38 +0000 UTC]

I thought the picture was of some sort of freshwater placodont for a sec.

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to slothChija [2016-09-01 18:52:35 +0000 UTC]

Hehe

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slothChija In reply to Hyrotrioskjan [2016-09-05 20:42:45 +0000 UTC]

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Chaptor-C [2016-08-31 22:26:40 +0000 UTC]

They look like frogs.^^ (Or croc)

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to Chaptor-C [2016-09-01 18:52:25 +0000 UTC]

That's no accident

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salpfish1 [2016-08-31 22:06:48 +0000 UTC]

Great work! 

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to salpfish1 [2016-09-01 18:52:13 +0000 UTC]

Thank you  

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salpfish1 In reply to Hyrotrioskjan [2016-09-01 20:17:54 +0000 UTC]

You're very welcome!

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bh1324 [2016-08-31 21:16:07 +0000 UTC]

Cute and earthly, great work.

I hope we will get more reliable information about this dinosaur soon.

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to bh1324 [2016-09-01 18:52:06 +0000 UTC]

Thanks

I hope that too!

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titanlizard [2016-08-31 21:05:50 +0000 UTC]

This pic is filled with green force

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to titanlizard [2016-09-01 18:51:50 +0000 UTC]

The paper was created with green force, the rest is normal.

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Arcovenator [2016-08-31 16:48:01 +0000 UTC]

Yay, endlich ist das Monster von Minden beschrieben!  

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to Arcovenator [2016-09-01 18:50:56 +0000 UTC]

Oh yeah! Endlich kann ich mein Schweigen brechen!

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HUBLERDON [2016-08-31 14:42:47 +0000 UTC]

So weird!

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to HUBLERDON [2016-09-01 18:50:37 +0000 UTC]

Indeed

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Viergacht [2016-08-31 11:26:40 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I don't buy the meat-eating thing at all, though they certainly might have grabbed one of the oppotunity existed. Ah well! Stilll an interesting critter, and I really like your art. You've given it a convicning fat, tegu-like solidity.

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to Viergacht [2016-09-01 18:50:25 +0000 UTC]

Thank you ^^

Yeah, ankylosaurs and their wide rib cages are very appealing.

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Dontknowwhattodraw94 [2016-08-31 09:48:47 +0000 UTC]

Although it gets compared with a turtle all the time, this here reminds me a lot of beavers. Nice work!

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