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Irsanna — half-combed elf with baby salamander
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inscription on the picture:redhead and his wife when she doesn't want to talk to anyone
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No problem! ^-^ It really is very beautiful! <3
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Чудесная работа
(Ничего, что я перепостила на тамблер? Я там не заметила его у Вас, пропустила, может быть).
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спасибо! да, конечно, пусть тамблер)
это хорошо, что где с няней жуткий))
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I mean, pfft, what's gross? It's fire spirits! They are beautiful, you know the works of E. T. A. Hoffmann? I love Hoffman and his Salamanders)
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heh, I dunno anything about any Hoffman except for the logger crew, but I imagine they could be quite charming
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Thank you very much! It's good that the details are successful)
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Oh gosh, the salamander is just so cute! What an unexpected addition!
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oh this would be a fine portrait of Maedhros! Unfortunately he doesn't have a wife
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it can be a portrait of Amras or Amrod) Suppose that Tolkien incorrectly wrote about theirs fate
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yes it could be as well It's just I'm obsessed with Maedhros, and every redhead automatically makes me think of him
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I also really love Maedhros), but if Tolkien is not right here, and Maedhros did not die, and his wife might well have appeared, then all the same I had to draw a prosthesis instead of the right hand(
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oh you're right, I didn't notice the hand!
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but do you want to know how I remember that this is the right hand? In the name Maedhros there is an "extra", a strange "h" - it's like a figure with a raised right hand, when I realized it, I even drew it: . But now I want to correct this picture a little, I see Africa too well (
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that's a very nice way to remember it! Do you mean the black stain is shaped like Africa?
I really like the previous version as well, it's not easy depicting that kind of deep pain, but you did it
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yes, this is a stain, there is no need for Africa) thanks! I think Maedhros, precisely at the expense of this suffering, has acquired his immense power, for example, as yogis
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yes suffering changes a person a lot, and can give him such power...pity that things still ended tragically for Maedhros, one can but blame his terrible dad
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no, here I read the Silmarillion differently. Tolkien obviously wrote it on the order of Finarfin's house. For me it is primarily the story of the seizure of power over the Noldor and others by Vaniаr, Melian was poisoned, Indis is a criminal, etc. Therefore, I think everything written about Feanor is tendentious and biased, and I do not consider he horrible. On the contrary.
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and the way you understand all this is really interesting ! because Tolkien himself never liked writing intrigues and thrillers, and it's like you've just described the Game of Thrones version of Silmarillion.
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I have great respect for Tolkien's commitment to the facts. His cleanliness in relation to the facts is excellent and very harmful to vaniar and Finarfin) in Silmarillion nothing needs to be changed and invented to read it as I do. But you're right, Tolkien was more interested in creating an instructive parable, edification, but such intentions are very harmful to the artistic design and truth
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I think your reading of it would be more probable in real life, it's just Tolkien creates characters and whole races that are as noble and good as saints, but what can I say, he's a devout Catholic. Still, as unrealistically good as some of his characters are, I love them for letting me see what it is like till be truly good
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yeah, I take into account how important Catholicism was to Tolkien. I also read the Silmarillion, based on the General historical and cultural background, which is interesting to me. I am very interested, for example, in the history of Gnosticism, and in Silmarillion in relation to the Noldor contains a lot of the same things that the fathers of the Church wrote about the Gnostics in treatises against heres. Also very interesting is the conflict between Catholics and Protestants, which is also reflected in the Silmarillion. Tolkien does not create his own world from scratch, he writes about what happened in our history, defending their preferences, and here I just take my own position, based on my values.
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my research never went that deep, I should read a little about what you mentioned
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I'm sorry! I promised to cook dinner
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ok no worries! enjoy your dinner!
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I hope you got a good night's sleep!
For Tolkien, I think it was a very significant period in the history of England, when Henry VIII abandoned Catholicism and introduced Anglicanism. The persecution of Catholic priests, the repression, the destruction of the monasteries, the execution was going on a lot of evil. And because of the history of his family, I think Tolkien experienced this confrontation between Catholicism and Protestantism not as a distant, historical, but as quite relevant. For me, a very important event in the understanding of the Silmarillion was when I suddenly realized that the Valars and Valinor are not pagan Olympic gods, but this is Rome, the Pope and the papal throne, and when Feanor in conversation with the Eonwe relies directly on Eru, he leaves from under the power of the Valar, refuses their mediation before the Creator just as do the Protestants against Rome. If you imagine Fëanor as Henry VIII, who for the sake of a whim plunged their people into such distress, I totally agree with Tolkien, it's really disgusting figure. But the fact is that Tolkien draws a Feanor somewhat different, the Feanor has different properties and characteristics than Henry, and I can not fully identify these two figures. For example, where Henry relies on the power of the repressive apparatus, on violence, Feanor relies on the power of persuasion, on his authority. If he was like Henry, the first blood would have been shed among the Noldor, who refused to leave Valinor with him, but Feanor does not apply to refused any repression, he respects their point of view - this is a huge difference and a completely different character. But this I strayed from the topic, I'm always happy to get carried away and start defending Feanor)
I read a lot about the history of European religious wars. Echoes of some of the events I find in the Silmarillion. Sometimes I understand that Tolkien also read this book or these documents) For example, "the Thirty Years War " by S. V. Wedgwood (1938). I have notes about analogies, possible prototypes, I may publish something in the magazine when I translate into English. Actually, I already have a whole book about how I read Tolkien. Another reason for understanding Fëanor and the Noldor, except for the Protestants and Gnostics, at me is my interest in these personality types. A person who is focused not on social values, but on the values of truth, knowledge, creativity - always to some extent opposes society, often turns out to be an outcast, receives a negative characteristic and labels - as Tolkien did in Silmarillion. I'm interested in autistic creative personality, as well as personality with borderline personality disorder, the person with the trauma, etc. I'm interested in the reaction of society to such people, and in the psychological and cultural aspect. This is a very ancient conflict, in Ancient Greece were the gods of Polis (Zeus) and the gods of techno, art (Prometheus), and for Prometheus, too, it ended badly. Silmarillion again a great illustration of the usual reaction of society to such a person. By the way, I remember your text about Turin, which is a clever, in-depth study, but I'm of the opinion that a person with an injury should be considered in the first place in the context of the injury and its consequences, and its psychoanalytic interpretations and classifications do not work in this case. The theme of psychology, trauma and epic is what I'm thinking about.
In General, for me this is a big huge topic, and Silmarillion allows me to experience all this more emotionally
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and I just want to add something, yes you're right, Tolkien definitely personalized this confrontation between Catholicism and Protestantism because of what happened to his mother, in England traditionally Catholics have long been seen as the minority, a strange group of people...there's prejudice against Catholics which Tolkien wrote something about in one of his letters.
And it's also very amusing to think that all this religious conflict is way over most Chinese people's head, we're like, what's all this fuss about, Westerners are so strange, it's just freaking religion
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Yes, as far as I know, China has happily avoided religious conflicts. I also live in a country where the predominant religion is Orthodoxy, and we did not have conflicts on the scale of this. But this is not for the benefit of Orthodoxy, alas. And Yes, Western religiosity is very different from the Eastern one. It has always been a state instrument of violence.
I love Lao Tzu (Laozi - ? I don't know how better) teaching and book
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Yes in China religion has never really held secular power, and we're simply not a very pious people.
I don't know how it's spelled in English, but Chinese people spell it as "Lao Zi" (老子). I know a little bit about Lao Zi, his writings are a bit too difficult for me. Some of the things he wrote are so concise that it makes them hard to understand. It's like he could just write three words, but translated into English it's thirty words or something.
But I used to really like his successor Zhuang Zi (庄子). Zhuang Zi writes the most beautiful, imaginative, romantic and philosophical things.
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Yes, I love Zhuang Zi too! I have his books, his texts are beautiful.
I also like to read the Book of Changes I Ching with comments to it. Our scientist Yu.K. Shchutsky collected and published an excellent work on the Book of Changes - the history of the emergence, the history of commenting, the comments of various Chinese scholars and comments on the comments. This is a great volume and it's a wonderful read! So much wisdom!
And I have a favorite character in Chinese history - like the unfortunate Feanor, but even more miserable - it is the eldest son of the first Emperor Qin Qi Huangdi - Fusu. I somehow watched a popular science film about the work of archaeologists on the tomb of Qi Huangdi, where Fusu was very handsome and noble and with a very elven hairstyle. Maybe I don't know the story right, but he was killed by his younger brother in a conspiracy with the Minister Advisor. If his younger brother had managed to rule long enough, I think we might well have a book like the Silmarillion about what a villain the big brother was and what a wise and noble junior)
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yes the emperors would all love to scrape off their ignoble deeds from the history records, including Fusu's brother, because the emperor is always right
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really an outstanding figure) should be read
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Yes the Book of Changes is one of the most famous ancient Chinese books, but regretfully I haven't read it...honestly reading ancient Chinese gives me headaches. It's a great book, but people like to use it to predict their fortunes in dumb and superstitious ways, so the book itself kind of got discredited along with all the fortune-telling...but never mind, we all know the book's value, although not many of us read it or read it correctly.
Oh you just reminded me of Fusu's story! I heard about his story when I was very young, and I had to look up all about him to remember. Fusu has a beautiful name, Tolkien would love his name, it means luxuriant foliage, or fragrant grass and well-grown trees, that kind of thing.
Fusu was valiant, kind and just (at least according to popular tales), but he made his father (who's a great man but also an asshole) very angry by advising him not to kill a batch of prisoners. His father sent him to the borders to help build the Great Wall. Before his father died, he wrote in his will that he wanted to pass the throne to Fusu, but his two advisors Zhao Gao and Li Si didn't like Fusu, so these two changed the will. In this fake will Fusu's brother would be emperor and Fusu was ordered to kill himself. Fusu's friend asked him not to kill himself, because he suspected that the will was fake. But Fusu said:"If the father asks the son to die, there's nothing else to be done," so he killed himself.
All this is written in another very great book, Records of the Grand Historian.
And yes! Fusu's hairstyle would be very Elvish, it's how ancient Chinese people wear their hair, when I was watching the Lord of the Rings I always thought that Peter Jackson stole that Elvish hairstyle from the ancient Chinese people.
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Yes! I love that Peter Jackson's elves are quite Oriental, Chinese! It's beautiful.
This film talked about suicide, but also showed a bamboo plaque, which was found not so long ago, which said that Fusu was killed. But in any case it is a story of son's piety and obedience. And I think that Feanor would have done everything that his father would have ordered him. And it causes bewilderment why Valar is not brought back to life Finwe. I think that Feanor did not understand this either, for a while waited for resurrection, but eventually realized that there was nothing to wait for and he lost all doubts. Why the Valar did not resurrect Finwe, who could rule the Feanor and in any case would rule all the Noldor, could be the most important question of the Silmarillion.
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I haven't read the Silmarillion in a while, I just remember Finwe died, but I don't know he's not coming back - that would be really messed up for Feanor! Why is it that both his parents are so unreliable... I think it could be that Finwe doesn't want to come back, he decides to stay with Miriel. It could be like Aegnor and Andreth, Aegnor never returned from the dead because he refuse to live in a world without Andreth. Tolkien is such a romantic
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Manwe suggests that he return much later, not when it is most needed. If I do not confuse anything, it is not even the Silmarillion. And I really do not like this turn of the plot with Finwe: the vicissitudes with Miriel, the choice of Finwe, I do not like this catastrophically, I see here not romanticism, but Tolkien's aggression to a certain type of heroes. For me, in the world of Arda, it may be the only real Return of the king - the return of Finwe.
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And yes I understand why you don't like the whole mess with Miriel and then with Finwe marrying Indis...It's like the whole universe conspired against Feanor in his childhood. Put it in real life then it doesn't seem to be that bad, but come on this is Valinor.
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In real life, my classmate, in whom I was in love, was poisoned with the same pills as his mother. His parents were already many years old when his father announced that he had fallen in love with a young woman and was going to her. His mother was poisoned, when a little later the father announced that he was marrying that woman, the son was poisoned. He was 20 years old.
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