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JWArtwork In reply to ??? [2013-10-22 17:35:49 +0000 UTC]
Glad to hear that my friend. I hope the other request will be just as good, tho I'm kinda going through an art block at the moment... =/
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Soulslayer317 [2013-03-06 10:32:36 +0000 UTC]
don a good job on the color. Its really good and like how the predators attack and the blood is sprayed in the water.
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sack-back [2012-11-07 15:56:32 +0000 UTC]
awesome
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bhut [2012-11-05 17:22:13 +0000 UTC]
The vampire eel is based on the lamprey, right?
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Ninja-Sonic-Xenogeny [2012-10-01 17:51:15 +0000 UTC]
this is a really brilliant dynamic picture. it's awesome to see stuff like this. what program did you use?
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tablelander [2012-09-20 09:39:30 +0000 UTC]
different concept
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Tapejara [2012-09-17 15:32:38 +0000 UTC]
The water/blood effects are excellent
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PeteriDish In reply to JWArtwork [2012-11-05 21:59:13 +0000 UTC]
thank you so very much! like I said, I am in the process of changing the "vertebrates" (again) XD
I need to find something I feel confident about and to make sure I'll not be making any drastic updates in the future. I have already changed the anatomy once without fleshing it out in much detail and it kind of sadens me. I feel I am still in the early stages of development I think and need some more time of trial and error until I find the "something" I am still looking for.
But luckily, I think I have a new decent invertebrate phyllum going on. I feel much more comfortable with invertebrates tbh, only "arthropod look-alikes" give me trouble, alien versions of "chordates" always end up being too earth-like in my eyes.
I hope I have an outside look of a "vertebrate" somewhat fleshed out, only "dismantled" into many sketches - like I like this bit here and that part there, I need to put it together.
I hope I won't chicken out this time, this uncertainty is consuming me, pulling me into a dark abyss of despair again, and I know if I fall down there, the project will die again.
My ideas so far include either a bilaterian descended from a trilaterian ancestor (three jaws, fennestrae in the lower jaw that used to be eye sockets in the past, three "tongues," etc...
And I'm thinking that it could also project into the limb anatomy, there would be three groups of three fins ringing the ancestral body, kind of like a dolphin has two fins and a dorsal fin, but there would be a ventral fin in this case, and this basic layout would be repeated three times along the length of the body, but only two of each group of fins would become walking legs. the remaining three fins could find a different use as time would go on, I am thinking of the frontmost one becomming a raptorial appendage, the second one becomming a part of the external reproductive organs and the last one becomming a "sub-appendage" of the tail or the tail itself.
What troubles me the most is that my "backbone trachea" idea might not work, it gets all pushed over the edge in the head and neck, but I may still be able to solve that. (or so I hope) What troubles me is that it again looks like a three-jawed dinosaur, at least the head... I can't really make a good-looking alien head that looks "alien," it always ends up looking like some well-known animal... and as I've learned, the head is what can actually make the animal look alien enough even though it may have a fairly "standard" body plan other than that...
My other idea for vertebrates is to make them bilaterally symetrical, but I don't know how I'd go about that, maybe I'll use that symetry for an invertebrate phyllum, or both.
The problem is, I am strictly against sonar-using animals being the dominant fauna of any planet, because it seems to me sight is much more useful - not being able to see even though the conditions on the planet would allow it doesn't sound good to me - just imagine how neat even the simplest of eyes are, just a patch of sensitive skin that can differentiate light from shadow. you can tell you got tipped belly up or that a predator is above you, casting a shadow. This can save lives. if there is light, there are going to be eyes, sonar doesn't give you nearly as much information about your surroundings as eyes would, and you basically have to shout to hear a whisper, so you are announcing your presence to your prey. Some electromagnetic sense would be awesome, that's a passive sense too, and certainly useful - in addition to sight. it seems to me that without eyes, you'd be stuck at a "sessile blob of flesh" stage forever.
but whenever I add eyes to my animals, they start looking too earth-like, no matter how many eyes they have and what the arrangement of the eyes is... I think I'm starting to understand why fellow artists make blind aliens, it does make them look exotic indeed, even though it doesn't make much sense on a starlit planet. That's about the second or third sense to evolve damn it! first you have chemoreceptors and touch, and then BINGO! simple eyes emerge.
okay, sorry for the long rant! I'm really sorry to make you read this long pile of crap!
I also need some plants to go with the eventual landscapes that I may request, that's the part I am almost completely unsure about.
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JWArtwork In reply to PeteriDish [2012-11-07 22:11:11 +0000 UTC]
Allright, here is my rant!
Well, I'm glad to hear at least the invertebrates are doing well! But about the chordates, I'm not suggesting you should (it would make alien fauna much less exciting indeed), but you could leave them out like I did on Biomnis. No, you can forget about that, that was stupid to even bring foreward. But you could try to make a mix between the invertebrates and vertebrates, right, to make them look more alien-like. Maybe that is an idea
Hmm, weird... I've never had the feeling I wasn't good enough (not saying I'm a good artist, though), but I felt comfortable with the level of art I produced, combined with my age. In my eyes you should feel confident, as you have every right to feel comfortable with the creatures you draw and make up! Hope that helps!
That's a great concept! Trilateral symmetrical creatures for the win! But will the tail also be trilaterally symmetrical
Hmm, maybe a combination of sonar and sight would work! That is a recognizable problem for me, as I've had trouble with that in the past too. I've decided to leave the eyes out in most of my creatures. But maybe instead of sight and sonar, aliens have an entirely different sense, not seen on any Terran animal. But there is another solution to the eyes problem! The problem is the fact that we automatically draw the eyes of creatures on the head, but here in this old sketch of outdated Biomnian creature-concepts, in the conodont-like creature, I have placed the eyes on the back, so the creature could see its surrounding even better: [link] The solution summarised: don't place the eyes on the head!
Hmm, plants you say I have some plant concepts worked into that sketch and also in these other two I uploaded in my scraps as a source of inspiration for you: [link] and [link] . Feel free to use any concept that appeals to you, as they are outdated for me, so I won't use them. If you like I can upload some more sketches of Biomnian outdated concepts the coming days.
And I personally like the ammonite-like creatures in the first of the last two sketches. They electrocute their prey with the horn on the front part. The electricity is generated by the elongated body in the shell, just as with the electric eel from Earth. And the ridge across the outer side of their shell is to keep them from tumbling over, though I have not really thought about how they would swim, then again...
Hope this all helps to give you an extra inspiration burst! And don't worry, it wasn't crap!
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PeteriDish In reply to JWArtwork [2012-11-09 00:25:49 +0000 UTC]
Let's see how that works. XD
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PeteriDish In reply to JWArtwork [2012-11-09 21:11:10 +0000 UTC]
well, that's actually one of my concepts, making some "paraplantae" that are more like photosynthetizing sessile animals with a hydrovascular system, I am speculating something echinoderm-like would stand at the beginning of the lineage, and my older idea are "root-worms" that burry themselves into the substrate, most of their organ systems atrophy during a metamorphosis - I don't know if they pupate, but they definitely go throufg a state of stasis at that point, possibly even swelling at their rear end - maybe that's a reason why to actually let them pupate or encrust/encyst at least this vital part of their body - and as adults, they only absorb nutrients through the skin of their body and photosynthesize though leaf-like extensions stemming from their butts... XD
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PeteriDish In reply to JWArtwork [2012-11-10 20:12:09 +0000 UTC]
thanks! I'll need it! XD
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