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SpicecreamSundae In reply to BunMuffin [2020-10-26 02:32:44 +0000 UTC]

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BunMuffin In reply to SpicecreamSundae [2020-10-26 02:42:51 +0000 UTC]

Tbh a lot of poeple have thought the same way as you. A lot understand that is is probably a heavy japanese trope which is why maybe he doesn't see it as bad. When he first created this pairing I honestly was willing to give him a chance. Like he grew up in a different culture and was probably not as educated to understand how damaging this trope cane be to his younger audience. The main problem now is that so many poeple have been telling him how bad this trope can be. Idk if you noticed but that link to the Instagram post was made a loooonng time ago. He has read the comments, he knows how bad this relationship is, he's had the time to change, and yet he hasn't. It's gotten to the point where it's not so much a culture thing but more him willfully ignoring everyone who has been telling him why this is wrong and continuing to do it anyways. It does not look like he is going to change anything at all at this point. He inspired me too. I've been a fan of his for years even bought prints of his a long time ago. Unfortunately no matter how much he has inspired me it's not going to make up for the fact he is very much aware of how bad this relationship is and that he continues to post them despite it.

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SpicecreamSundae In reply to BunMuffin [2020-10-26 02:44:52 +0000 UTC]

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BunMuffin In reply to SpicecreamSundae [2020-10-26 02:59:05 +0000 UTC]

I think the fact that he is posting it to please his audience is what is more disturbing about this though. I can't imagine the amount of actual pedophiles who are now becoming a part of his audience because of this relationship. Although it may not be legally classified as pedophilia it does have those pedophilia vibes. Not to mention the amount of younger audience who now believe this is okay because someone they look up to and are inspired by think its okay. It's so heart breaking to see the amount of poeple in his comments saying this is "cute" how he raised her like she was his daughter and its "so romantic" that they feel in love with each other later. Although I understand yes as an artist you want to please your audience, he could please his audience with other art beside them. After all this is only a recent ship he made and he has already been growing an audience long before this. He is pleasing a portion of his audience yes, but he is spreading a rather bad message in the process. If anything continuing to post this couple is actually driving a portion of his audience away whereas if he just stopped and continued like he normally has with other types of art not much would really change. I understand if you like to continue watching him cause you like his art. I can't deny it is very beautiful. I know some poeple who hate this ship but still want to see his other art cause well-- its beautiful art. But as more and more poeple leave cause of this ship I know the majority of his audience are poeple who actually enjoy this borderline pedophilia relationship and probably even actual pedophiles. And that's not a community I want to be a part of. Though thank you for having a rather mature conversation with me. I too don't see this level of respect for another opinion much on either side tbh. His comment section has become more or less a warzone now so it's nice to have a pleasent conversation with someone.

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SpicecreamSundae In reply to BunMuffin [2020-10-26 03:35:47 +0000 UTC]

I feel the same. I am very irritated with this pairing. Thanks again for being mature, as tbh I get an anxiety stomachache whenever I look at the comments on his posts. I think the problem is that although he has stated there were no sexual feelings when she was a child, and so in the fictional relationship it's not grooming, this sort of relationship irl could easily turn into grooming, pedophilia and incest. So even if this story isn't bad, it normalises these kinds of relationship, which is VERY harmful for young viewers. I had a run in with a groomer at 13. It was online and nothing ended up happening, but what did happen scarred me for many years afterwards and damaged my relationship with people I knew and my family. I thought adults were attractive at 13, a lot because of the media I consumed, and because I was impressionable, as a child. There's a reason kids can't consent .. And though I don't view Kawa as a pedo or groomer, I don't think he realises his impact, which is really sad.

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BunMuffin In reply to SpicecreamSundae [2020-10-26 03:47:07 +0000 UTC]

That's exactly how I feel, how it is normalizing this type of a relationship. I don't think kawacy is a pedo or groomer as well but the message that he is spreading does help further pedophiles agendas to help normalize these types realtionship. I hope a lot of Kawacy's audience stay safe. Again I feel like they probably are starting to see this as normal because someone they look up to says it's okay, and these types of posts can attract a lot of pedophiles and groomers into his audience. It almost feels like his audience is becoming a perfect pool of some younger poeple who think this is fine, for pedophiles to prey on. I truly pray for everyone's safety. I just hope Kawacy does change something before anything bad happens. I'm glad you were able to say safe and nothing ended up happening. I ran into a groomer myself when was 14 online. Of course had no idea what grooming really was at the time or that I was being groomed. Thought it was just some guy who wanted to be my friend. Nothing ended up happening in real life but I still remember the things he said and asked for and feel disgusted by it today. I wish Kawacy used his influence to help spread more positive and uplifting message then something that is rather very harmful.

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SpicecreamSundae In reply to BunMuffin [2020-10-26 03:56:18 +0000 UTC]

!!! YES THIS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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BunMuffin In reply to SpicecreamSundae [2020-10-26 04:04:14 +0000 UTC]

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Flauschi-Fipsi In reply to BunMuffin [2020-09-18 07:30:01 +0000 UTC]

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