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Vocaloid character, duo shotaFukase and V Flower Vocaloid 4 ver.
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Thanks for note (^w^)/
But some people said she is male. I made this because their appearance, they are shota (despite V Flower is female XP)
CMIIW (OwO)/
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There was a lot of confusion when first released, but Flower has been confirmed several times to be female despite the Shota looking design. In fact this originally was a shota genderbend design for her that was later adopted as her V4 image.
There are also some who do not want to accept she is still female. :-/
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Right
Beside her design, I love her voice too
Her voice can be like shota, and at some song her voice like creepy cold psychopath person
But mostly because her clear vibrato when she sing, so I know how to sing that song correctly
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Yep, she is suppose to be able to do both male and female roles... I should like her myself as we have the same birthday (9th May), and while I like her V4 design, I don't like her voice. Its tough when a Vocaloid gets released on your birthday yet you don't 100% like them.
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I see.... Not all love V Flower, maybe you can like Fukase, Yukari or other. Like Fukase, I think he has wonderful design and fresh shota voice (even his voice provider 30+ years old), but when he sing rolling girl seems like not him sing that song. I dislike that because he has not difference with Karasu Yutsukoe from UTAU (FYI, Karasu has powerful high pitched voice).
Or Yuzuki Yukari onn, I love her design coz she has soft pink color and cute design, maybe she has calm and soft voice but I don't understand what she say if she sing in high voice range.
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I am a wikia editor on the vocaloid wikia. So I'm well and truly a fan of vocaloid. My preference if the English Vocaloids. My favorite Vocaloids are Tonio, Big Al and Macne Nana (I was so happy when she both became a vocaloid and had a english vocal).
Fukase surprised a lot of people, especially the way the developers were talking about his English. ^_^
I imagine the Fukase cover of Rolling Girl didn't do the vocal justice... Its not a surprised that a vast number of the over versions of songs are file slap-ins where the original data is inserted with little effort to adjust it for each vocaloid. if their not doing that, then their poorly miing the vocals with BGM, making it as though the vocals and song exist on different planes as separate hearing entities... Rather then together as one song.
In a similar light, producers often slap two vocaloids in a song regardless of how well they go together so duets get hit. You can mix the vocals to go better again... But... Its like Miki and Piko naturally don't work, but VY1/VY2, Big Al/Sweet Ann and the other counterparts do. Then there are surprising vocals like Oliver/Fuase who turn out to be good complimentry vocals. :-/
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Are you wikia editor?
I just know wikia contributor in wikia. What's difference between wikia editor and wikia contributor? Are they same?
Yeah, Fukase surprised a lot people, especially I never heard Fukase satoshi sing in english... (Or just me who never heard him sing in english )
I agree. When I heard some vocaloid song, they made the BGM is lower than original so can fit the vocaloid character when they sing that song. Or made they duet in one song, some chorus.
About counterpart, are they officially counterpart from Yamaha production? Such like VY1 and VY2, Big Al and Sweet Ann. I mean not made by fans
Oliver and Fukase.... Maybe I draw them later as another duo shota...
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Yes they are the same in some respects. Its jut I started with "wikipedia" in 2003, and we called ourselves "Editors". So that is the phrase I use. "Editor" tends to be referenced though more in the long-term regards while "contributor" would be for anyone who edits, blogs or forum posts I guess. But mostly. Their the same.
With so much disappointment on past Japanese->English vocals and so much "we don't know" from the developers, it was easy to get unnerved at Fukase English. In addition when you read from the Japanese side, the English was often glanced over to focus on Japanese. Understandable as thats the main language. But in Japan, English vocals aren't always aimed at English natives speakers and re often just there to give "English" to producers. This is the problem with CFM English vocals, at least, made worst by the project for Miku English being originally unstably referred to as "Mikucash". :-/
Counterpartners vocals designed to go together, they usually tackle the same subject but in different ways. One can be soft, the other strong, one could cover a low range the other high, etc, etc. They produce different results but cover the same thing. Piko and miki are from different companies, therefore are not counterparts. Piko is from Sony, miki from Ah software. I consider Leon and the Lola the most oddball couple though, as unlike other male/female counterparts the female is the lower/raspy one and the male is the smooth/higher one. :-/
These guys are the confirmed ones;
-Meiko/Kaito
-Leon/Lola
-VY1/VY2
-Sweet Ann/Big Al
-Prima/Tonio
-Len/Rin
-Dex/Daina
-Bruno/Clara
-Avanna/(partner was never made though as they could not find her partner, but she is still considered a "counterpart" vocal)
At a pinch some like Anon/Kanon, Merli/Lapis, Yuki/Kiyteru have been listed as them by fans, but these are the ones confirmed by studios. In the case of Yuki/Kiyoteru, if they were counterparts its long abandoned as a concept. Typically Zero-G is the most common company to produce counterparts, they like to give two approaches to the same subject and have always done that. The Japanese companies have long since abandoned the idea since males in Japan don't sell. To the counterpart ends up being either abandoned or they just go with another female. Its why so many are females, as the DTM magazine crowd, the rowd that typically buys Voaloids in Japan, are 80% male.
A lot of producers like counterparts as it makes thing easier since if you have a subject you like, you have a choice of approach. Plus in addition, if you want another vocaloid that works well with the existing one you have, their counterpart is the best option. A lot of the times, buying additional vocals is really hit or miss... Since some vocals are made very differently. You never know what will happen when you try two vocals together... The tone could be all wrong or the quality of one could not match up. :-/
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Thanks, I'm understand with your explanations
BTW, as you said, Avanna has counterpart vocal. Who is he? I never heard Avanna has counterpat vocal
So.... typically buys Vocaloid in Japan are 80% male... I understand why almost the Vocaloid producer in niconico douga and youtube is male
Sorry for bothering you with my question
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He was never made, they never found the right voice to go with Avanna, but they had intentions for one.
Yes, a lot of the time females are just not encouraged to take up this sort of thing, as a business man once explained to me. They can, but girls are pushed it not traditional roles more often then not. Japans still traditional despite being modern, so certain expectations like the guy taking over a woman's business when she marries him still occur and are normal. So a lot of girls don't take up things that guys are dominating for this reason. Its why I scorn the weaboo anime-fans, because often they have more freedom, particularly girls, then in Japan in countries like America. Its the same when they praise the Japanese language over other language, but Japanese is phonetically a limited language compared to many others like English. I fully support a second language, but one is not ness. better then another. Its all about communication with ones fellow human beings, not whether or not one is better then the other. :-/
Not a bother at all, I try my best to answer them.
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Once again, thanks for your all explanation
I recently found that weaboo anime-fans like as you said
I think they just... share their passion in Japanese?
Maybe just me who don't know that manner
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I do not concern myself with the weaboos too much. There are fans like them in every fandom. In the MLP fandom there are the bronies who take it too far.
Far often then not, the haters are worst then the fans themselves. For example, in Vocaloid because they hate it they do not look up actually what it is to begin with. So when they talk about it being "a Japanese thing", they are ignoring it being in 4 other languages, including English its first released language. They also fix on Miku, ignoring all other Vocaloids, or her and the other "Big 8" (the Vocaloid wikias nickname for the Vocaloid Miku, Len, Rin, Kaito, Luka, Meiko, Gumi and Gackpo). So complaining that all Vocaloids are "high pitched crap" is basically ignoring vocals like Big Al. Also, liking Vocaloid alone does not make you a weaboo, yet some say it does. I like One Piece and Vocaloid... I would not call myself a weaboo, I was done with anime in 2006. One Piece I'm just waiting for it to end so I can say I was *there* when it did. And the Engloids, whom I follow, were not anime style yet when I first lurked in the fandom. I also do not see why my opinions should prevent the enjoyment of another... Just because I disliked Bleach and preferred One Piece, does not mean Bleach is bad and nobody should read/watch it.
Well, once upon a time, France was the *in* country. So learning French in the Victorian times was considered a sign of status among the rich of England. This is because France was the centre of the art world within Europe. So The fascination with Japanese is similar to the fascination with French back then with anime being the specific drive towards it. But Japanese business men often use foreign words to describe something ("Vocal" and "Android" = "Vocaloid" is a prime example, incidentally the "l" n the name "Vocaloid" is a play on the Japanese "l/r" hence why the words join there). Modern Japanese has a large number of loan words for this reason, as Japanese itself as a language has a lot more limitations built-in. The English language itself is a language full of loan words. And while I understand English may seem mundane to a Weaboo, the way things are structured in English is odd. Most other languages, including Japanese would say the subject first and describe it, but we put the subject second and describe it. "Red shirt" in most other languages is "Shirt Red". So English itself is a pretty exotic language. n Not so unique is the use of "I", in Japanese you talk in third person and rarely use "I". So instead of "I did this" it may be "Sam did this".
Regardless... Vocaloid has enlightened me on languages in a way I did not expect... I do see why Weaboos do this, as one's language is always not as interesting as someone else ("the grass is always greener on the other side"). Also... Its been proven recently that multilingual individuals display emotions differently to switch language, and those who learn languages young not only are better at it but understand emotions in said language better then an adult learning it. Though one's native language always remains the one you understand emotions in the best. So switching language basically means you switch personalities too. I learnt this stuff only because I was looking out for it, because I was looking for stuff to add in the "Did you know" section of the wikias main page... Certain words just carry more weight expressively. Also, another thing I learnt is that it is possible to learn more Arabic words if you are a scientist then a Arab would use in day to day life just because more Arabic words made it into science, in fact if one would to go by the share number scientist who knew a lot of arabic words from science would technically be classified as a "fluent speaker", just one who can't string these words together to make a sentance.
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Huft....
Big Al has ikemen voice despite He's sing in english
About language, Jappanese certainly has limitation vocabulary also complex purpose words. They has lot meaning such like Jappanese name, example Miharu name. Miharu can be meaning "stand for" if write it with hiragana. And can be meaning to with beautiful sky blue, true bright if write it with different kanji.
When I read kanji, difference between "Ima me" and "Kyou" is 今目 and 今日. Sometimes I get frustrated with that difference.
Maybe that's made weaboos loving Japan so much.
As I know, the most complex language in Indonesia is Javanese language, because it has 3 class language. Lowest class stand for usual conversation who purposed for usual people, in the middle class stand for polite conversation who purposed for older people or respected people, highest class stand for noble people in the patrician environment
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Big Al is awesome. ;-3
Let me think... In English we have emphasis which impacts things. Our version of that issue would be "read" ("you read the book already", or, "you will read the book"), "minute" (as in the time, or an alternative for words like "small" or "little").... Or "Bow" ("bow before royalty" and "tie a bow in your hair"). Though Japanese was a fascinating language to understand, I was never very good at it. I know, despite this, more about English. Learning very different languages though, gives you very different looks on the world.... So my heart sinks when I come across people too proud to learn... English is not the only language in the world. While it gets you around a lot of the world, it will not get you around the entire world. :-/
While not class distinct, I know also that Switzerland has about 4 or so languages... Is own, French, German and and Italian. I guess in English "upper" would be referring to oneself as "one" or using the royal "we"... and in some countries, different dialects pretty much are the sign of which class your from. saying that, I laugh while writing this as I remember someone telling me about the Japanese he learnt was basically how to talk like a 8 year old girl. /ad then my French teacher telling me that French learnt in school is the "super polite" version, and most natives don't learn it like we do. But hearsay is all those last few things are. :-/
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That's right, learning one language and other will be different looks on the world, when singing too. They has their own unique such like english, english language to me is universal language in world. When I heard or reading english language I remember some my favourite movies, song, games, my friend on overseas country, my teacher at school, etc.
When I heard or reading japan language like kanji, katakana or hiragana , even their engrish pronunciation I remember J-song, vocaloid, anime, games, matsuri (festival event), etc.
Politest version of how to talk in Japanese? Like "Watashi wa (your name) desu, yoroshiku onegaishimashita"
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