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This is the only productive thing I've been in my mind to make today. No strength for anything else... I'm pitiful. -.-But seriously, I'm going to need a proper title for this drabble series of mine soon, this has evolved far longer than what I expected when I wrote the first little ficlet; Y'know, this one - Predestined ... And this is the fifth drabble already, though of course it has evolved a bit farther than just dealing with trauma and awkward romantic relationships. (Or so I like to believe at least xD) I guess it's just... therapeutic to write these, now and again. Just indulge me, will ya? ^^'
I had no proper goal for this fic, as opposed with all the others. There was no big issue, or plot, that I wanted to explore and settle in one go; mostly, I just wanted to try my hand at my own fan-kittens, now when I'd actually reached the point where they're 'present' in the story. And I'm also very fond of "everyday life in the clans," because seriously it's nice with breathers inbetween drama and lame-ass prophecies, right?
Squirrelflight was intended to be my only point of view, but suddenly Sandstorm got caught up in it too, and Idk I just went and rolled with it~ I love her too, so there.
So, you already know my SquirrelBramble fankittens, Talonkit and Plumekit. But I guess you might start asking some questions about certain others. I've taken several liberties with canon already, but I guess it's only starting to really show about now.
Firstly, this story takes place in early winter, almost a year after Bramblestar's Storm (I think that story is set in winter too). I've spared Icecloud from her canon death, which was so unnecessary, and mated her with Mousewhisker (one of my quilty pleasures, that one~) Cloudykit is their only son.
Cinderheart and Lionblaze's children are still apprentices, because I didn't want to wait and have them warriors already, I mean that's like stealing a whole year of storyline from the reader! Oh, and their names have been changed, as you may perceive. (I disliked their names so much...) Shadow-Chu was so kind as to share their remade names for them with me, so kudos where they are due!
Which means that Hollypaw is the same cat, 'but Sorrelstripe' is now 'Emberpaw', and Fernsong is 'Rainpaw'. ^^ Sorry for the confusion.
Finally, there is the matter of Dovewing, and her fan-made babies, Greypaw and Wrenpaw. I don't think that needs much of an explanation, do you? Cats are very much able to mate with several toms and have kittens with different heritages, and I wanted to add that part of cat physique which hasn't been explored in Warriors-verse before. (God forbid though, or everyone would be inbred... *insert horrified face here*)
(c) Dearly disliked Erin Hunter
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I enjoyed reading from the point of view of elder Sandstorm greatly! 
Poor Dovewing, though... 
I loved your idea of Leafpool leaving to train a new medicine cat for ShadowClan; with the way things ended in the series, I was expecting such kind of crisis sooner or later, and it is very in-character for Leafpool to offer her help.
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Thank you very much - glad you liked Sandstorm's part in it, I really hadn't foreseen I would be writing through her eyes for half the story, it was a fresh experience to work by an elder's perspective.
Haha yeaah Rainpaw is my favourite too among them, his personality came out on impulse and just worked so well. Aye, sadly I wasn't able to connect with the old names like you were, so I had to change them.
Nay, I never liked her, to be honest; she was always too immature and whiny for my liking. Also stems partly because I favoured her sister Ivypool so much more. ^^' But I guess, in a way, this scandal which I wrote her in, made me like her more - it gave me a chance to build her a spine, and make me respect her more, if that makes sense. And of course Greystripe has to be a fair guy, I couldn't see him treat Wren any different from her brother, he's too loving for that~
I feel this is something that is about to happen if the erins don't actually give Littlecloud another apprentice soon - he was described as getting so weak over the fourth series, yet he never took a new apprentice. And like you, I really do believe Leafpool is the type to volunteer for such a job, she has that "professional gentleness" that works so well for her.
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I'm very happy to hear it, thank you so much.
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Tbh I (For rp or story purposes) enjoy if the said cat is able to just have different toms kits without coming off as a (Excuse me, just using the old correct term) whore or something seeing it's or can be completely natural to them. HOWEVER, I also agree with how bad the Erin's already are- it's probably a good thing not many females had a million kits and everyone and their brother were mating the killing the gene pool so at least they were limited... Lol. I like all the little things you point out! ;3; I just kinda read the end part of the def and felt I wanted to say something so excuse this long and maybe annoying comment here. ;3; My two kittens I own had a feral mother, so we don't know the father but we're actually expecting it might of been father(S) seeing they can have multiple males kittens if they mated around the same time and all... However it's one thing I shall never know about my cats. x'D
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Yeah, it's an idea with two sides perhaps; on one, it's a very realistic approach to have multiple fathers, and opens up for a whole new sort of drama, but on the other hand stuff really can end in chaos. And imagining how the Erins would've handled such a thing *shudders.* Gods know the gene pool is reduced enough as it is. xD
Aye I've seen a few cat litters through my life where it's no way every one of them could possibly have come from the supposed parents, with some of the colours and pattern combinations just being way out there. Thank you for reading though. ^^
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Ugh huh! I really enjoy the realistic touches you put in things but also the level of understanding why it's so scrambles. It's like placing the fandom in all new hands (Or- *Cheesy* Paws) letting us explore details we weren't before, without hurting anyone's brain trying to think to hard. xD
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This is awesome! Wow, you really writed a lot <3 ! Great work!
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I'm so happy you think so, thanks! Hehe yeah it got a bit longer than I first intended, suddenly I had more ideas to work with. ^^
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That's really good! You could become a great writer! <3
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Waah, thanks again! >////<
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That was lovely! The kits are adorable, and I love how you wrote everyone. :]
Curiously, that's the personality I also had in mind for Rainsong. Must be his name. xD Sounds so calm next to Emberstripe.
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Thank you very much! I'm always so nervous with written works, because there's much more work to be done on them (and seriously there are so many characters I just...) glad you liked their portrayals though. I just so wanted to introduce all the kittens at last.
Really? Omg, haha. xD It was what I thought too, that Rainsong's at the calm end of the spectrum, and Emberstripe in the opposite one (Hollytuft ending up somewhere inbetween)
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As am I 
Ugh, the elders.. Btw, I love how you wrote Bumble and Wren's relationship. I've been considering my own approach, and coming up rather empty handed. There sure is a lot to think about in this kind of FF when it comes to characters and relationships, especially when EH has left us with so little to work with... >>
Omg, same. I was having Ember as the energetic, kind of Squirrelflight/Sandstorm-y one, Hollytuft as the kind of stubborn but "righteous" one (like a Hollyleaf/Firestar kind of mix I suppose), and Rainsong as the more withdrawn, polite, quite kind of guy! It must be their names! xD
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Yeah, same here. Somehow I feel that writing reveals a lot more about 'me' as a person, for some reason or another. To be deep, it's kinda like I give more of myself in writing than in drawing; because pictures kinda obscure what the artist is, whereas text can't do that. xD
I know. I did too... though I kept Icecloud though, that was one sacrifice I wasn't willing to make, sadly. But Fox, Toad, Hazel, and Sorrel too - I gave up on. I've secretly taken Millie, Blossomfall and Birchfall off my character list too, I just pretend they died in the battle or whatever. ^^
Thanks. I knew I had to get it a little bit intricate; there have been so many cases of totally dismissive parents, but considering Bumble IS a nice guy, I felt he would at least have tried. But wounded feelings and all the awkwardness really can ruin stuff. At least Wren has her brother, her rather... overcoddling mother (that's just how I perceive the humiliated Dovewing would turn out), and not to mention her friends. I kinda just bonded them both off with the CinderxLion trio.
And you're totally right, there's much left to be desired in EH relationships these days... jeesus.
It totally must be their names. xD Love their descriptions though, and I can't stop laughing over how I ended up more or less doing the same, gosh~
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yeah, that's true. and i feel more heavily judged on my writing than my art-ing. not sure why that is... probably because i talk so much smack on Erin Hunter lol Have to backup my arguments by not making the same mistakes.
I'm just doing everything I can to reduce ThunderClan's size, even though I adored Hazel, Fox, Ice, and Toad... Ugh, so unfair...
At the very least, it'll be fun to explore the relationship between Mousewhisker and his single daughter.
Also, I'm actually really digging your idea with Millie... and Briarlight surely couldn't live forever. I think she's a sweetheart, but he spine is broken in a dog-eat-dog world. Survival of the fittest, I guess. :s
Haha, love how that was followed by a "^^" xD
Yeah... I'm thinking that's a reasonable approach. Bumble would definitely try, but he loved Dove so much. :[ That's like the ultimate betrayal, and actually, I see Dovewing almost just the same! I figured she would get very overprotective of Tiger's kit, quick to snap at anyone who looked at her funny, out of sheer humiliation. But when it comes to her age group, I don't think Small will have too many problems, especially with a great brother like Grey <3 his grandpa's grandson, for sure.
Haha! Well, it's hard to imagine a spazz with the name "Rainsong". They both sound very melodic, I think, and for some reason, even when he was "Fern", I just saw him as the more reserved type. xD And given the lineage, they were doomed with stubborn she-cats, hehe
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Yep, same here, same here. I'm more emotionally invested in my writing, hence it also matters more. And gods forbid we commit the same mistakes, nope.
Yeaaah, I really have to get rid of a few more as it is, (though seriously, the next series' ShadowClan list is LONG, I was surprised), nevermind that I actually like a few of them. Maybe some natural disaster once my story moves over to spring, thaw and all tends to bring trouble with it. (Especially since I also didn't kill anyone off with illness the last time I introduced the plot - man I facepalm at that now...) Or, well, in Norway it does - not sure whether it's the same for FantasyxBritain xD
Ugh yes, single dad with little daughter, awww. <3
Good, good. I've been wanting to add that subplot to my canon myself, but I haven't been given the opportunity to mention these details - it hasn't fit in the story anywhere. I believe it would've been a rather touchy subject for the surviving family members, like Greystripe and Bumblestripe; and they're now the only ones left. It also increases Bumble's apprehension for Dovewing, who went behind his back and taking away his chance at a happy family connection there, considering his latest losses. (Aka me killing Millie, Blossomfall and Briarlight off-screen. I shame myself~)
Heh well the "^^" reduced the feeling of me being mean, I thought. xD
I felt a bit surprised at how I kinda grew a backbone for Dovewing with this new plot, considering how weak EH painted her. But I see this scandal as a sort of do-or-die, that if she didn't stand up for herself and face her own actions, it never would have happened. And this is the first real cause for her to be strong for the sake of another (her daughter, and her son too, to a degree), and not just her puny self. Had she not, I don't see how Ivypool could've supported her as much either, really - she wasn't much for her sister's cowardice. -.-'
I'm not doing Tigerheart in the "good knight in shining armour" either though, so even with his awkwardness, Bumblestripe is the "better dad". But it'll be a painful theme for Wrenpaw for a long time to come.
Ah yeah, your Grey and Small will have another group of friends xD (Gosh I keep forgetting you're a year ahead of me in terms of storyline, geez)
Nay, just not possible. Rainsong sounds like... the epitome of good, polite and mature, somehow. xD But the prefix makes him sound a bit more 'male' though, as opposed to Fern (also because a boy named for an elderly woman is just... nope.) Oh yeah now when you mention it, there can't be hope for the females here, haha!
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Yeah, that's true. It's a lot harder to provoke emotions with written words than imagery, I think, especially when words aren't being read, either (i.e. speeches, songs, etc.) Not to say they can't, but you also develop a style with writing as with drawing, and it has to be a certain way to touch readers and deliver the blow you want... gets pretty complex, I guess. uvu; And yeah, it seems much more personal, even if you're not writing about yourself or your experiences.
I'm glad to see any other Clan being large, honestly! ThunderClan's size wouldn't bother me nearly as much if the other Clans were on par in terms of numbers, because then it would set the norm. The forest (or lake, I suppose) was always described with a large number of cats anyway, and when you compare the size of a cat to a tree, and look at all the territory they have, they can definitely fit the numbers, yet there's like 10-20 per Clan.
I've thought about keeping Blossomfall alive for my FF, just because I wrote this one-shot a long time ago about this situation with Dovewing and the kits, and I had Blossomfall being very supportive of Bumble, and it's trying to wriggle its way into my canon. xD Because it started with Bumble totally neglecting the fact that the brown tabby was clearly not of his blood; he ignored it utterly and wholly (outwardly) to try and keep up his idea of a happy family, and because he loved Dove so much. And though Blossom was initially pushing them together in the series, I don't think she'd be able to stand her brother living in this lie of his. So I had her pep-talk Bumble, and though it destroyed him, Dove, and the kits as a family unit, I think ultimately it's better that way. When he confronted Dove about it, she stood by him, and I just fell in love with the concept. xD Now, hearing about BumblexRose, she might even be the one to set THOSE two up.
Hehe, yep! I'm a little sad with my own choice, though, because now I think I would have loved exploring Holly/Ember/Rain, but I can just have them become a big happy group when Flame and Flower are apprenticed/or receive their warrior names.
Oh, yes! It'd feel weird writing Rainsong as a hyperactive cat... and you'd wonder where he got the suffix from, because whenever I see the suffix "-song" I always think of a very peaceful cat. And yeah, same for me. Probably because when I see "Rain-" I think of Rainwhisker and Rainstorm-- both males.
Yeah, to be honest, though I loved Ferncloud, "Fern" as one of Lion and Cinder's sons never sat right with me. Yes, the kits were named in honor of the Great Battle's causalities, but... besides Holly and Sorrel (which I couldn't keep because it conflicted with the design, oops), they were never written particularly close to Fern, of which I can remember. I can see that more for maybe one of Rose's kits, but it seems a bit awkward for Cinder and Lion. And Fernsong is just about the girliest name they could have come up with. xD
Hehe, they're doomed! :D
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Yah, there's a lot that needs to be done carefully, a little at least, and really it's plenty personal however farfetched the story proper is.
Haha good point, at least now it seems that one of the clans have risen a bit, even if the poor bags out on the moor seem to forever be reduced. xD
Hmm, not bad actually, considering you're thinking of taking such a route; then I can understand that Blossomfall's presence might even be needed, to a degree. And everyone loves a little family drama, certainly the initial scene you describe here doesn't sound like a healthy long-term solution, so it makes sense that all things had better come to an end, even if it's your sister who forces you to admit the fact.
I've been pondering how to set up the BumblexRose couple myself, but I figured I'll just let the story move as it pleases - they managed to have a moment in the last drabble, so who knows? I've always kinda seen them as friends, since they're more or less the same generation (though Rose is perhaps a bit old for Dove, in more ways than one), and he'll have wanted a close friend to help him deal with his broken family situation.
Aw, well they'll still be friends then, it sounds like. ;w; Heck Runningwind in the first series was plenty older than Sandstorm and co. but he was a good friend to them all either way~
Yeah, that Rain has been used mostly for toms does help - and it's a bit cute considering he's related to Rainwhisker, whom we all loved~ (That suffix -song given to an energetic cat would be as big of a scandal as the name Ambermoon)
Aye, Fern wasn't directly related to either of them, even if both cats knew her as the good queen in the nursery, so it would've made more sense actually if any of Fern's own children used her name for their offspring, and not Lion and Cinder. And Fernsong is just... (on the other hand, Sorrelstripe wasn't really much better, somehow Emberstripe sounds better - can't explain why)
Poor fellows. xD
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Yeah, that's true ;v;
Yeah, WindClan is so small it's ridiculous. If it wasn't against the code, I reckon a Clan would have driven them out by this point (again lol).
Speaking of which, where are the naughty leaders these days? Blackstar's just quick-tempered and Onestar is grumpy, but you gotta kinda miss when one Clan's leader goes loony. Which is, sadly, something I don't think I'll be able to really get around to in my FF. If anything, one of the "traditional" senior warriors may just rise the ranks and cause an uproar, but that would still be seen as heroic in some eyes, whereas Broken was straight-up hated and feared.
I just fell in love with the idea of Blossom and Bumble being really close after the events of the Great Battle. I hope you don't mind, but I kind of fancy your outcome for Millie, having died there, while Briar's body just caught up with her. Besides, in my former canon, I don't know how Millie would have managed to carry Briarlight away without protest.
Aye, they could definitely just be good friends who progress into more. ^^ They've got a lot in common. (I've also began thinking of names for their kits... lol tell me if I'm cheesy xD but Briarkit, a dilute torbie (correct me if that's not possible, hehe www.thecatsite.com/content/typ… ), Fernkit, a grey tabby, and Toadkit, a cream tabby.)
Aww, that's true. <3 Baby Runningwind
Aah, that's true! Rainwhisker would be his great-uncle, right?
(oh goodness don't even get me started. "moon is a scared term and is not to be used by clan cats as warrior names" " in fact, 'moon'flower was definitely a mistake we realised too late; her name was going to be changed to duskflower but -excuses-" "HEY HOW ABOUT WE NAME AMBERPAW AMBERMOON")
Yeah, truthfully, if I were Spider, I'd be a little offended. xD Like you didn't know my mom at all why would you name your kid after her. Like I don't know, I know it was meant out of respect, but it feels a little weird.
That's true, the name never sat well with me either... I think it's that the prefix and suffix both begin with "s". I was apprehensive about my name changes for them at the beginning, but now I quite like them. ;v; "Ember" could subtly be named after Firestar, and Rain kind of waters dead plants, if you know what I mean. Kind of like a "fresh start" name?
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-.-'
Ahaha driven out because they never could man the numbers to properly revenge themselves~
Idk, Blackstar kinda got old over the books himself (and I did like his grumpy "okay I redeemed myself now get outta my sight"-attitude), but, well... it seems the era of megalomanical clan leaders is over. Onestar's a douche yeah, but also too old. Someone new shall have to rise to the occasion somehow. Or, I might introduce an outsider, I've got this alley cat asshole lying about in some old fic or the other. xD Other than that, I don't think there's any way for me to get such a subplot into the story either. At all. Speaking of which, I started thinking about that "customary dark tabby" - y'know, the once every generation striped cat that goes evil - figured I can't take that route either, cause my 'dark tabby' is Wrenpaw...
Certainly I don't mind, use whatever aspect of the idea as you choose. And I like the aspect of the remaining sibs kinda bonding closer again from their losses. :3
This is gonna come across as slightly weird, but that's the exact lineup (excluding the names - I've not got any yet) for my intended Bumble x Rose kittens - so I might be able to say at once that the're all genetically possible. ^^
Yup - it's cute once you realize. xD
I KNOW IT'S JUST SO RIDICULOUS I CAN'T... They don't remember shit about their own decisions even, I... I... gah! It doesn't even sound good when you say it in your head.
Hahahahaha good point, like "wtf yeah sure I know my mom played nurse with you guys but seriously, name yer kids after her?"
Could very well be, that the similar syllables just become too much with the name. Ooooh but I like the deep explanations for Ember and Rain, niiiice.
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Glad to hear he aged in the story. xD You gotta love that ShadowClan snark; they've all got it, one way or another.
Ohh, that's true. Even if the brains of this generation are a little more tempered (though they make up for it for selfishness and stupidity), that's not to say the cats of the outside world are any better. :') In the case of a Clan merging, if a rogue group is recruited, the leader of said group may not have the most peaceful intentions when joining the lake cats. hoho
Oh goodness, poor little Wren. I wonder why it's always the tabbies xD my mother grew up on a farm with cats, and she said the ones with the most 'tude were usually the solid black cats.
thank you! <3
oooh, wow. xD i think we just might share a brain when it comes to warriors. perhaps we should become the new erins
i wish we saw more of him. :/ i will never forgive the erins for his shitty death (now to add on hazel, toad, fox, ice, and co. to that list...)
they really do not. >> i'm sure it must be hard sharing ideas and keeping down concepts between-- what is it, four writers? but why do you need that many authors in the first place... they're clearly not helping in keeping track of anything. >____>
right? xD plus, he'd have to watch that Fern grow up not being his kin, yet reminding him of his late mother every time someone called his name. at least if it were a relative, there'd be some affection. 
if I say Sorrelstripe aloud, it sounds as awkward as it looks typed.
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Aye, he seems to have been kind of the only leader that ever did. Mistystar (or rather Mysteriousstar) stayed youthful forever, so nothing to say there... none of the other clan leaders really showed traits of getting old, excepting Blackstar. Yeees, Shadowclan snark~ QwQ
Haha good point, seeing how new, more dangerous allegiances rise in the merged clan, there could be a hint that something is amiss alright. Could be intriguing.
True - Wrenpaw's the latest of my version of the dark tabby lineage - it's almost ironic that the kitty I've decided is going to be among the meekest, sweetest cats, is a descendant of Tigerstar and co. Haha your mother might have a point; my little brother however (he was almost solid black) was so regal and elegant in his behaviour that nevermind how hungry he was, he never lowered himself to 'run' to the food bowl. Never~ xD
Yeah I'm starting to wonder a little myself, these coincidences seem neverending. We'll just overthrow the Erins, eh?
Nope. And the list just keeps on getting longer...
Nay, perhaps it would've actually been better that there'd only been one writer; sure, the others could've been contributors to the storylines, but never writing proper. When you've got three people writing books in turn, they seem to just be confusing themselves. -.-
Exactly, that's just it. Dang.
But it's very entertaining in turn, to hear those explanations - 'cause they make sense.
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Oh, Blackstar <3 You will be missed. Rowanclaw is so much more tame than Blackstar, I don't know who's gonna be my spitfire leader if this keeps up. xD
I sure hope I can write it that way. Who doesn't love some rebellion?
...Also, who would buy it that all the four Clans are just like "SINGLE CLAN PARTY? B'OKAY." I'm at a loss of what they'd call themselves though, or if they'd keep the territory names and just kind of lower the borders...
It'd be a nice turn of events. xD Brambleclaw still had his whole business with Hawkfrost, Tigerheart is arrogant, so it'd be nice to see a genuinely sweet tabby from that lineage for once-- though her blood still does cause some problems for her, I'm sure :[ from being Half-Clan, being semi-neglected by Bumble. (funny though; she'd be more ThunderClan than Shadow, because by blood, both of Tawny's parents were born and raised there, so Tigerheart already is kind of 50/50...
Also, if I had to compare Bramble to anyone in another franchise, I'd have to say Simba from the second movie. That lion was a mass of worry if ever I saw one.
Your little brother? xD
Oh my god that sounds already like the perfect "villain" xD
I think we should... team up and make some kitty legends
They certainly do!
- There has been some confusion over the color of Dovewing's eyes. They were originally mentioned as pale gold in The Fourth Apprentice,[11] and they have been called blue at every point since. Kate has stated on her Facebook page that they are pale gold,[12] but Vicky has stated that she believes them to be blue on her own page.[13]
Thanks. xD Glad you like them.
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Aye. I fear Rowanstar will never be able to fill the gruff that is Blackstar's heritage.
Yeah same here, someone has to be the grouchy cat at every gathering, now what to do~ Make Crowfrost as grumpy as the rest?
Everyone~ Ahahahaha damn good point, certainly the merge itself will turn up the tension, making it much more likely that there be some kind of uprising after a while. Nah, maybe just the Clan, or LakeClan, since they're focused around a big lake. Idk. xD
You might just be right, Wrenpaw is a nice, fresh breath compared to the bloodlust that runs in her family. Also funny, she looks more like her grand-uncle (Bramblestar) than anyone else in her clan then the rest of her close family, her biological father aside. (Hah yeah, she's more Thunderclan than Bumblstripe too, who's half housecat xD) I love doing the issues with her and the clan, since she's kind of the first character I've done who's more likely to break down in tears than fight back because of meekness.
Haha now I see it too, the everlasting worrywart~
Ah, um yeah, I tend to forget myself when I talk about him - Max was his name, a cat we got when I was about 2 years old. I ended up calling him my little brother out of habit, because he felt like a bro. ^^'
But he would make a very special anti-hero with his quirky behaviour~
Aye - we'd overthrow the Erins within the years
God... dear God. It's just infuriating. You can't call yourself a group of writers when you can't cooperate! =_= And is deciding on a frickin' pair of eyes really so big a deal??
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I don't think he will... of course, when I did another "practice" one-shot about the leaders discussing the prophecy, Rowan was naturally the more provocative one, Harestar the clearly inexperienced one, and Reedstar the wise oldie. I'm really enjoying writing Reed, also, that I'm sad he has to go so soon. xD It's been a while, but he kind of reminds me of his uncle.
and I think so! There has to be someone bringing back the sass. He'll probably be a dick; I mean, his mate is Dawnpelt. If he can deal with that, it only means he can compete with that. xD
Very much so! I don't think any of the elders will really be okay with it, to be honest, just because their whole lifetime has been based on loyalty.
Omg don't "Idk" me I need some guidance here. xD I want to be as realistic with this as possible in terms of reactions and decision making. I need some heeelp!
Awww! ^^ That's so cute! (Also true about Bumble
A breath of fresh air indeed! The true innocence of the family. xD ('cause even Brambleclaw was doing some weird shit with his brother that one time).
<3 Yeah, no judging. Animals are family 100%. I don't like referring to my dog as my "pet"-- she's way more than that. I was raised with her, she's my little sister and my baby.
Ooh true. Anti-heros are so neat, hehe.
A well deserved dethroning! I don't think it would even take a year, the way their work is going. 
Yeah, how hard is it to decide? Better yet, do some simple genetics research and they'll realise her eyes can't be blue, and settle that dumb argument! And why wasn't this discussed and decided before they started writing her?
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Oooh but I like the lineup. Certainly, even without his predecessor's particular grumpybutt-acting, Rowanstar is likely to be the crosser one, simply from being Shadowclan, hehe. And I love the idea of a clumsier Harestar who's just getting into the ropes, and a Reedstar who's so wise and really proving he's a third generation leader material~ Yeah now you're making me sad too. xD
Ahahahahahaha best point ever made! xD Of course Dawnpelt makes all the difference, omg.
No, me neither - old people tend to be the ones who take to change the worst - though not necessarily so bad they'll rebel, but that's entire individual. If anything, the cranky asses in Windclan sounds like disturbers. (We've rarely been given names beyond Onestar, Crowfeather or Nightcloud though, so I wouldn't know who these cranky cats really are...)
Hmm, well keeping the peace should be the merged clan's first doing, so perhaps keeping their joined name neutral would be safer, than using any of the former clan titles; that could end up rubbing certain cats the wrong way, and tilt the balance in favour of the clan whose name is still in use. So perhaps just use Clan, at least for the first generation; for the generation to come later, with new leaders and new kittens, who're 'used' to this life, then maybe they can start thinking about what to properly call themselves. They've had time to bond, which the intial bunch will never be able to do in the same way. There, that's my deepest thoughts about the idea. :3
Aye, Wrenpaw's more innocent than even Brambleclaw ever was, you're damn right about that - he ain't got no excuse for the trouble he and Hawkfrost nearly got themselves into.
Same here, I always have issues when people ask and I have to refer to either Max or Brutus as 'pets' - Max was my bro, and Brutus is my baby puss~ And like you said, we were raised with these animals - it's not the same just "having a cat/dog" you pet every now and then.
We need some evil dude with elegance soon, I mean Tigerstar and all those dead cats were evil, but seriously they lacked 'finesse'. If anything Mapleshade had a tiny bit of that, but all the other evil dudes were like growling and hunching their backs all the fricking time. It's official, I'll have to drag Blitz back into a story of mine (manipulative asshole of an alley cat I used in a practice drabble years ago)
Indeed. And you're most likely right, the way they're doing things these days would ensure our win much sooner than I calculated. Gosh yes, only the thought of another med-cat apprentice point of view is enough to make my eye twitch.
Yeah, and suddenly, there be no more issues, yaaay~ But nooo, let's be crappy writers who can't decide on the same thing and fill our books with genetically unrealistic designs~
Damn good question, shouldn't their "physical" designs at least be done before they set down to write? I know personality evolves throughout a story and may be hard to stay true to your initial key words, but looks ain't really so difficult...
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I agree. xD If I were to have anyone as the instigator, I mean... I couldn't really see it being anyone else. I imagine when he went to receive one of his lives, Blackstar's was "this life is for being a dick-- use it to progress the plot along in the story."
I've also added a kind of friendship between Hare and Reed, as the youngest and oldest leaders. When Hare offers and idea or runs his mouth a little bit and Rowan and Bramble are kind of like >:C Reed is the one to kindly suggest that he shut up. xD Like, Hare wasn't alive during the battle with BloodClan for example, but the other three were, while Hare doesn't realise that rogues/kittypets can really be a threat.
Elders are probably too sleepy and achy to rebel-- I think senior warriors pose the largest threat, or the younger battle-thirsty ones who are like whoa-hey now we all gotta get along whats up with that???
I agree about peace-keeping, but there's so much to tackle. xD I'm sure enough will reveal itself simply through my back-and-forth between the leaders, but there's the matter of just what happens to the Clans-- they become one, the borders fade, but what is then their "camp"? As we've learned it, their territories are actually pretty large, as getting from point A to point B is shown to take several hours. What purposes will leaders serve? They could form a council, but what of it then? In the beginning, especially, there will be blatant Clan favoritism when tackling problems between warriors, etc. I still think this idea is hella fun but boy oh boy if there aren't ideas that need to be thoroughly worked out. xD
Yeah, and I truthfully doubt someones motives when they talk about their animals as "pets". If anything, when asked about my dog, I just refer to her as "my dog". Somehow that sounds less strange to me than "my pet". I think because "pet" actually has some negative connotations, like when it's used on humans as a kind of synonym for "slave", while with "my dog", I mean... she's a dog, and I take care of her, so... xD
I would love some evil elegance. You're right about the rest, they're just savage. There's not one that hasn't like... secretly been a coward, or mental, etc. Like we need some Scar up in here lol (ooh, sounds good!)
I don't... ech. Can't we just go back to the roots of a warrior? Medicine cats are so... uneventful. This opens the gates to way too much StarClan interaction as well, or special powers.. and code breaking, because let's be honest, how else would they make a medicine cat P.O.V exciting?
It isn't so hard at all... ugh, why are they so... Erin-y. >>
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Ahahaha headcanon accepted, man that would suit Blackstar SO WELL to give that sort of life. xD
Aw yeah, now I wanna see it; I love that thought, that Reed actually extends some help to the greenest leader and helps him shut his muth~
Aye I think you're right, the senior warriors and the recently made ones are likely the cats with the biggest amount of dedication to the clan, and self-pride regarding their own loyalty, and should be easier to ruffle. Together with being better in battle, well shit. xD
Likely it will, the dynamic between the four will make things "bounce" along in their conversations, but I don't think it'll be easy to tackle ahead of writing it. Hmm, maybe just find the safest spot on the entire lake (maybe just the island) and camp there, or have them rotate around the territory every second season or something, so not to exhaust one area's prey~ That's two alternatives.
At the very least, having four leaders in the beginning will secure all the former clans' rights, and even out the scales so it doesn't fall in favour towards anyone, so four leaders ought to be important in the beginning. Maybe that'll change over the generations, but who knows. I can understand the excitement in developing this plenty much.
Same here, same here. Pet? Why there's no 'pet' at my house, only 'my cat'.
Yah, no diversity in the evil department, whoever you get is just nasty and outright cruel every time. No regretful evil dude, no traumatized nutcase (excluding perhaps Mapleshade who went mad) and no bipolar should-be-a-coward either. So boring. (Thanks, I'll have to polish my antagonist up again though... maybe have him seduce a she-cat or something, just to start xD)
Which means we're likely going to get either, if not ALL, of those drama features with a new round of med-cat pov... yaaay. T_T
Oooh new word, me likes. Eriny: verb. 1. To write in an uncoordinated, chaotic fashion. 2. adj. Being a dumb writer. xD
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I've kind of gotten the urge to draw it now, oops. Maybe one day I will turn our strange conversations into little pictures.
Aww, yay! It's fun to write, indeed. I like the scene quite a bit actually, so when it comes time to shine, I can just insert it into the chapter with a few edits~! But that'll be in some chapters ahead, naturally, as I haven't even given the leaders the prophecy yet... or have I.
Aye, the senior warriors because fighting for their Clan has literally been their whole life, and the newest warriors have been training all their life for this and now... what? It's just all mousecakes and pawshakes? (Though I doubt this generation will ever get to see that amount of friendliness, whatever mousecakes are lol.)
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I'm kind of letting the leaders literally make the decisions here, and my hands are just the slaves to their dialogue and ideas. xD
I like the idea of the island as a kind of home-base, but it might be a bit small to fit all the Clans-- maybe even a bit dangerous, given all of the water. I suppose I'll come up with something. Thank you for your ideas. xD
Hell, if I'm just writing their ideas, I can't even guarantee that this merge will 100% last, unfortunately. It's all up to how well they handle it. Argh, cats, cooperate. >>
It would be really nice to see a villain who isn't frothing from the mouth, yeah. Or one, even, with a well developed motive. Or, yeah, hell, even one who ends up regretful of his actions, maybe to the point where when he realises what he's done, he takes his own life. Maybe that's a bit far, idk, but at least it's not HS drama. ;;
Get those med-cats out of here! Ugh, why did EH have to ruin the mystique. Cinderpelt was so awesome as med cat.
Ought to get that thrown up on Urban Dictionary. Make it official.
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My, this is so cute!
I always imagined Squirrel and Bramble having lots of kittens and not just two in their entire life like Firestar and Sandstorm did.
I find it more natural when they have more than one litter, cause' real life cats do that
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Glad you think so, thank you very much!
Heh yeah, real-life cats would have up to two litters a year - but I don't want to swamp the character list with too many cats, so I decided on only two. That, and litters of four in the Warriors books tend to have at least two underdeveloped characters (how Thornclaw was never part of the plot, unlike his siblings and all.)
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Your welcome c:
And yeah, you're right :L
But at least Thornclaw was mentioned in some parts and even showed some personality AND didn't died.
Sorreltail brothers, i think it was Sootfur and Rainwhisker, we're invisible, mostly Rainwhisker. At least Sootfur got some spotlight when he died, but other than that, they were just there to act like mentors to more important characters -.-
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^^
I just wanted to give all my focus to fewer, important characters, rather than filling the list up with a lot of cats I won't be able to do justice to, and that's just mean. Like you said, just like what happened with Rainwhisker and Sootfur. Both were cute, to a degree, but we barely saw them. And that's sad.
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