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Published: 2016-06-22 06:57:54 +0000 UTC; Views: 6987; Favourites: 159; Downloads: 111
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Premiered at Nova Lindalva's annual Shot Show in 2018, the company that uses the four leaf clover of the city's flag as its logo had come up with a handgun that promised the same power of the Desert Eagle, but in a more concealable and discreet package: in a similar fashion to the Boberg XR9, this .50 Action Express handgun makes use of a more compact trigger mechanism and a bullpup configuration to shorten it's overall length and maximize accuracy with a longer barrel that sits partially over the trigger. Being roughly the same weight as your typical .50 DEalge, despite being less front-heavy, adding maneuverability. The weapon's recoil is more manageable thanks to the gas-operated mechanism, similar to the Desert Eagle in .50 AE but with a pneumatic recoil buffer alongside its frame and aditional escaping gas vents to minimize it. It also shares the upward ejection of the cartridges.After many pre-orders, the King Kobra was finally greenlight and production began as soon as possible, hitting markets in 2019 with a load of aftermarket accessories already available to please eagerly customers. In this particular case, both trigger and handle are aftermarket, with the original front fiber optic sight changed from the traditional green to a red one to match the trigger.
As with any Cloverfield (Army)'s firearm, there is just a little four leaf clover engraved above the trigger and the caliber of the gun marked on both sides.
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And now change it to an .440 Cor-Bon that will burn all power in this barrel! 350 grain and 2500+ ft/s
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I just fell in love with it
aesthetics of a QSZ-92 and the power of a DE *faints merily*
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You will faint intensely if you fire one. XD
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No, I'll jizz in my pants instead XD!!!
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The after effect would be about the same, so heh... close enough
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Hi Designerr, I've been a fan of your firearms art for some time and I was just hoping to pitch a weapon idea to you. Please reply if you're interested in hearing more.
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Oh, Hi! Sure you can contact me about it, I'm alwayr receptive about people's ideas, I just stopped for a while because "life" catch up with me.
(hehe, its been years I wasn't called Designer, almost forgot I didn't had the means to change my DA name, oh well, kudos)
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I just wanted to thank you for hearing me out about my idea, it really means a lot to be because you're one of my favorite artist on Deviantart, and I understand the whole life catching up to you. Essentially, my idea is for a magazine fed, trapdoor blunderbuss. I know it sounds crazy but I really like the concept of blackpowder weapons being cartridge converted for modern use. I wasn't sure how much I should say at once, so just let me know if you'd like to hear more about my idea.
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No problem, man, always nice to "hear" from people that love my artwork.
Anyway, by trapdoor you mean breech-loading? Because the concepts of that kind of trapdoor and magazine-fed are opposite, since the repeating mechanism (magazine fed firearms) needs moving parts that would place the cartridge inside the chamber, while the breech-loading is basically a hinged openning that allows the manual placement and extraction of the cartridge (not to be confused with bolt action, as the ). A working combination of both ideas would be very close to the Winchester 1887 shotgun, which also used black powder as a propellant, and its younger brother the model 1901, which used smokeless powder shotshells.
I would like to hear more from you about your idea, so I could have a better understanding of it and see how it would work, as well as if I'm on the right track.
Thanks.
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Thank you for pointing to the major flaw in my weapon design. I've taken the time to rework my design and I think I've come up with a solution, and I think this idea my work better. Essentially you replace the flintlock mechanism of the blunderbuss with that of the Vesely V-40 submachine gun. This would allow for a close range, semiautomatic, magazine fec hellraiser with a capacity of 18 rounds of 12 gauge fury.
Here is a link to the design of the Vesely V-40.
www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/20…
I've chosen to rework my idea because I have no idea how the magazine would work in a trapdoor due to the sever lack of moving parts.
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Aw shucks, man, thanks for being such a good sport. (people usually don't respond nice even to the most sincere constructive critcism).
Anyway, some days after your first message, I was playing with a stapler (I was on the bank line and extremely bored) and when I opened it to see the staples (out of sheer idioticy) I notice this one was different... it was this very model: www.especiallyoffice.com/shop/… : notice how the spring aligns with the row of staples (just like in a firearm) and that there is an arm that pulls the springed pusher backwards? The arm is not fixed to the pusher, so it can move indepedently, it only "cocks" the pusher like the bolt of a firearm and with little effort due to the "trapdoor" like movement of the handle lever.
THEORICALLY, if incorporated in a blowback design (like the Walther PP or MAC10, both with very simplistic mechanisms), you could make a machinegun that could be reloaded by either magazines or direct placement of the cartridge in the chamber by exposing it through the lever (OR even a clip for that mather, just like the Mauser C96). Instead of a handle or slide to cock it, the lever movement would do it with less effort by that linked arm said earlier. The main disadvantage of the blowback is the weight of the bolt while it travels back and forth, generating severe muzzle climb in rapid fire, however, shotshells have remarkably less recoil than normal cartridges, so this would not be that big of a issue.
Being able to place a shotshell directely inside the chamber is a huge deal for a shotgun, since it enables for the loading of more exotic rounds that wouldn't normaly fit in magazine (tube or not), even allowing caliber conversion kits to work (www.freedomsphoenix.com/Upload… ).
About the Vesely magazine... that one is new to me and I thank you for that one, really ingenious stuff. Drum magazines have to be "rewind" and the spring can go off in the middle of the reloading process, while long straight magazines often needs levers and other mechanisms to work around the amount of spring tension the user have to endure to completely reload it, with the last rounds having the risk to not even loading at all due to loose springs (the horseshoe mag: www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8dc7v… ). The vesely solved that problem with a true elegant and simple idea.
What direction you would like to go? Scrap the trapdoor idea or go full experimental with ALL these ideas?
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I'm very sorry if I've overwhelmed you with too many ideas, I'm just so excited that you're helping me with creating this firearm.
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Once again, no problem, I apreciate the challenge.
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Just didn't want to overwhelm you, thank you for accepting my challenge.
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You're welcome, I rather enjoy constructive criticism because it allows for another's perspective on an idea. Your ideas are simply wonderful and truly amazing, I'd really like to experiment with ALL of the ideas if that would be alright with you, and hopefully we could use the other ideas as prototype designs of sorts while the Vesely would be the finished product. Like how you could see the M1 Garand prototypes then the final variant.
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Hey, no problem. To tell you the truth, I like the challenge, so thanks.
Since you originally wanted a trapdoor shotgun that is magazine fed, this last detail would limit its year of creation to after 1853 (first tube fed gun, the Volcanic Repeater) or 1867 (British patent No. 483, a box magazine close to the modern ones), but I would sugest anything later than 1894 (Bergmann No. 1, one of the, if not the first semi-automatic blowback firearm). The conversion to use the Vesely magazine (and maybe a full-auto blowback mechanism) could have been done around 1945 (after Vesely's patent went into production).
History wise apart, the shotgun could have its style based on a mix between the Bergmann Simplex, early bolt action rifles and the Thompson/Center Hawken, with some other characteristics from other firearms of those eras mentioned above, receiving minor modernizations after 1945 and later.
This one could be a private weapon that would later serve as the prototype for a firearm manufactured later in the 1980s (first years with fully automatic shotguns in large scale production), which would bring its appearance closer to the Thompson/Center Pro Hunter FX and Benelli MR1.
What do you think? Any name ideas for this "lever breech" shotgun?
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I think those ideas are awesome but I was hoping the physical aspect of the blunderbuss would stay the same except for the differences in the firing mechanism plus a few cosmetic changes as the firing mechanism changes such as the material of the barrel, length of barrel,materiel of the stock, and the gauge of the shotshells plus the possible addition of bayonets.
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More like this: www.militaryheritage.com/image… ? If not, do you have any better image? What is the most important detail you want it to keep?
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I really like this image: www.google.com/search?q=blunde…
Sorry for the really long link. The most important detail for me is the wide end of the muzzle because I feel like it adds a certain flare to the gun.
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The firearm is coming along nicely, few more days and it might be finished.
Any naming ideas? Any history behind it you would like me to mention, like brand, inventor, etc...
...or I can go nuts with everything? Your call.
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I'm glad to hear that everything is coming along nicely, take as long as you need to, no rush.
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I was thinking of the name "Sabrina", the reason for this would be the most recent gunsmith naming the weapon after his significant other, stating that it was "as loud and beautiful as she was." For the invention of the gun, I'd like to think that it was a family heirloom that was continuously improved upon by the gunsmiths of their generation as firearms technology improved. An example of this would be one of the gunsmiths converting the weapon to a breech loading weapon around the time of the self contained cartridge being invented.
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To give it some historic background, I thought of some minor details:
1) blunderbusses were common weapons until the mid 19th, when carbines were introduced, but some people considered it to be a poor replacement and, even if it also lost space in favour of breech loaders, the blunderbuss could still found in use by civilians as a defensive firearm.
-> The "Sabrina" breech-loading blunderbuss could be an attempt by an inventor/gunsmith to modernize the design to turn it into a more versatile weapon, maybe the project started around 1860, the time brass cased shotshells were invented.
2) in 1894, Bergmann pistols started to appear, using a blowback system feed by box magazine, allowing for semi-auto fire and shortened reloading time.
-> "Sabrina"s original mechanism was scraped and replaced by a Bergmann inspired one, both the barrel and wood stock being maintained. Shotgun shells also transitioned from brass cased to paper, but they didn't had optimal power to be used with the blowback system (project on hold).
3) in 1936 the Garand M1 was adopted by the US military, a gas operated system proved very reliable as a semi-automatic alternative to the blowback system.
-> "Sabrina"once again was modified, this time by the original inventor/gunsmith's youngest son, whom would be already on his 50~60. The new system proved very reliable and wasn't prone to malfunction as the last one.
4) in 1945, Vesely's v-40 came into prodution, using the trademark magazine with 2 rows of cartridges in front of each other.
-> As gas-operated machine guns prooved to be very reliable with the intorduction of the Bren LMG in 1938, the Vesely v-40 could be an excuse to alter "Sabrina" one last time, allowing for fully automatic fire and the much needed increase in ammo capacity that came along. It would be the grandson's work.
If the couple that started the project were British, it would also be history accurate since Bergmann's pistols were common in England, Garand M1s found their way into Europe during WWII and both the Bren LMG and v-40 were designed in Britain. What do you think?
I can feel my brain burning after so much research.
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It sounds absolutely amazing ! And I'm sorry about your brain.
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Any idea for the inventor's name?
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Lewis Blackrose is all I can think of at the moment. If you have any suggestions, I'd love to hear them.
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Lewis and Sabrina Blackrose... I like it! Not only it has a certain sound to it, but Blackrose would be a cool name for a firearm brand.
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Awesome ! You could use Blackrose as a firearms brand name for future designs if you wanted to.
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Thanks! I was kinda of willing to ask you that, since I'm in a need for new brands
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Hey, just wanted to see how the Blackrose blunderbuss is coming along.
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Heya! Do tell, what's your new idea?
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A dual-caliber rifle (.458 SOCOM and 9mm) that are switched by a lever that acts a trigger guard, pulling the lever requires a switch to be flipped to release the locking mechanism so accidental switches are prevented. Barrels are over and under, .458 above and 9mm below this rifle is a bull-pup. The 9mm is an alternative fire submachine gun and the front pistol grip is it’s mag-well (30-100 rounds depending on magazine). As a safety feature the rifle switches fire modes once a barrel reaches just below critical temperatures. Features Picatinny rails, front and back flip sites (are removable) a heavy heat-tolerant barrel, adjustable muzzle break, collapsible stock with SMG mag-holders (30 round mags only).
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Why the hell does the slide go so far back? I mean, it's meant to be concealable, right? So why's that bit just sticking out there?
Basically, by balancing it in the hand, recoil is made worse due to there now being more of a counterweight, thus the top of the hand is more of a lever instead of the wrist. The location of the gun's fulcrum point is changed, changing a lot of things.
Although, the idea of a bullpup pistol now comes to mind. That'd look awesome and be nowhere near as effective but still though.
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It has almost the same overall dimension as the DEagle, but it becomes more concealable once it neglects the space behind the grip where the thumb and palm would be to place the mechanism far back, thus the "sticking out in the back" feel, but in return, less gun is sticking out in the front.
It is NOT balanced at all, just not AS front heavy as a DEagle (in some forums, people complains that it is tiresome to hold that firearm for too long, once a guy even compared it to hold a stick horizontaly on one end with a brick on the other end), if you pay close attention, you can see that the front area of the Kobra is even bigger than of a DEagle.
I understand the firing axis effect, and now I reconize it as a problem... I imagine that it being gas operated, there can be some kind of mechanism that can compensate part of the recoil using the escaping gas?
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Am I stupid for thinking that you mentioning the gas-powering of it leads to a pistol Kalashnikov?
I kinda want to see a pistol Kalashnikov.
The vents for escaping gas and compensation... I'm gonna have to read up on that.
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YEAH! Like a pistol Kalashnikov! That's how the DEagle actually works (it also has an extractor similar to the ones from AR15).
You mean an actually AK? I had plans on doing a UZI sized Ak, I can move it up on my list if that's what you actually want.
Please do read more on that, I just love this discussions of ours, they make me sharpen my thinking.
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I was going to hold on to this a little, but a sudden feel that I had abandon my DA for too much time has struck me. So here ya go!
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nice to heard it! i've just got an idea of a gun which made me think of you(and look your DeviantArt page), what about a mateba MTR 8 alike revolver (cilynder in front of the trigger guard) with a webley-Fosbery autorevoler cylinder and the stud who operate the zig-zag cilynder is attached to a short stroke piston, a non reciprocating charging handle is connected to the short-stroke, i hope you understood my concept and shall i ask if you like it or realistic?
PS : there's maybe a problem with low gas pressure(unable to operate the piston)......meh ..i will say it use .454 casull or .500 S&W or .700 nitro ..should be enough
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I kinda of like the overall design idea, but I would like you to elaborate more on the mechanism, but from what I could grasp, you basically wants a AR15/revolver hybrid, right? If so, I imagine that it could shine as a autorevolver with fast rate of fire. This concept is similar to how the Pancor Jackhammer works, as it is a gas operated actuating rod that rotates the cylinder.
A MTR8 revolver is impressive in terms of recoil (mitigation?) specially because its odd appearance align the firing motion with ones wrist and forearm, but I think that .500 or anything above would be overkill (even that S&W ammo without a stock or a handle/forend is unbearable to shoot). As for gas pressure, I think that even a .22lr can be gas operated, it depends more on the pressure regulation on the piston than the size of the cartridge itself.
In MY opinion, something as exotic as you described, specially because the cartridge casings would be recovered easily instead of being thrown all over the place (becoming stealthier too), requires something as elaborated to be succesfully viable: maybe a 10 shot 5.7 x 28 mm caliber with selective fire and colapsible stock would be something to bet on. Also, the piston could work backwards, offering a counterbalance to the fire motion and helping even more on the recoil department, as while the gun goes back after the shot the piston goes forward, what do you think?
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so i was trying to do a sketchup model to explain my system and i found this : 66.media.tumblr.com/6b7b1d3875…
it's basically what i wanted with the piston operating the cylinder
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Yup, pretty much what I described. I like the idea, I just don't have the freetime right now to do it... sorry...
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