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Description This is the Guardian of Forver as it appeared in Nova Trek 2; Guardian's Child. The rock walls in the background are not included. Thanks go to Jonathan Rich for making Guardian while I wrestled with the pillars.
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mavericstud9 [2013-09-28 01:13:14 +0000 UTC]

Nice,but I wish someone would do a re_imagined version,as it might look created today

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mdbruffy In reply to mavericstud9 [2013-09-28 01:56:00 +0000 UTC]

Might be interesting to see. Might turn out more like a Stargate.

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Paudraic [2013-05-28 01:01:09 +0000 UTC]

I remember this one of yours from way back.

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mdbruffy In reply to Paudraic [2013-05-28 01:09:50 +0000 UTC]

Yes. It's been available at Excalibur Productions for a several years now, but I wanted to give it and the other props a little more exposure.

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Agent-0013 [2013-05-26 18:52:03 +0000 UTC]

I really like this one! It has so much potential as a time travel device!

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mdbruffy In reply to Agent-0013 [2013-05-26 19:14:13 +0000 UTC]

It's a shame they only used it twice- one in the live action series and once in the animated series.

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celticarchie [2013-05-25 23:38:18 +0000 UTC]

"Since before your sun burned hot in space and before your race was born, I have awaited a question."

- Guardian of Forever, to Kirk

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Kavalino02 In reply to celticarchie [2015-09-28 01:04:44 +0000 UTC]

"Since before your sun burned hot in space and before your race was born, I have awaited a question."

   I had always wondered about that particular line... and its possible ramifications, if in fact the 'Guardian' was speaking the truth about itself.

1. The Guardian is then at least 4.6 million years old, and of course likely much older.
2. It identified itself as both a 'machine' and 'being'.  Does that make it a 'cyborg'?  WHO then manufactured its 'machine' parts.  And if it is part being, 'whom' is or was the being?  What species?  What is his name and origin?  Is his intelligence/mind- or physical brain- stored inside the Guardian device- and where?
3. If the Guardian has indeed been waiting for some five billion years for a question, it has obviously actually been entirely alone for ALL that time!  So then, if it is inded part 'being'... how in hell did it retain its sanity?????  At one time the Guardian must have been the lonliest and most isolated being ever.
4. Considering the 'Roman-like' ruins present at the Guardian site, such stone relics would have worn down to dust long, long long ago, even in a harsh desert environment.  Those ruins, be real, really should not be there.  Either the Guardian is lieing about 'his' age, or the ruins are an illusion.  If real, the ruins MUST be much, much younger than the Guardian's age-statement suggests.  The remnants of a 'mute' race perhaps?  Highly unlikely, I think, and even if so, there are many other ways to ask 'a question' without it being spoken by voice.
5. The Guardian's planet of residence cannot be orbiting a Sol-like star, because if it existed as a planet before Earth came to be, the Sol-like star would have gone onto the red giant or near red giant stage by now.  It's star must be smaller and cooler, and perhaps close to red dwarf-like.
6. What happens... if the Guardian asks 'itself'... a question??

   Things to ponder

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celticarchie In reply to Kavalino02 [2015-11-04 14:20:11 +0000 UTC]

It could be lying... or at least exagerating.  It's been alone there for a very long time, it's got to amuse itself somehow.

By referring itself a 'being' it's most likely referring to it's consciousness.  If we were able to download our thoughts, desires, everything that as they describe in Star Trek III as being 'not of the body', into a machine, then we would still consider ourselves to be 'beings' who have simply out grown the need for a biological container.

Unless the Guadian's planet was a rogue that drifted into the system where the Enterprise crew found it.  It's origin could be anywhere in the galaxy or even universe.

Maybe the Guardian has all the answers... that's why it needs someone else to ask the question.

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Kavalino02 In reply to celticarchie [2016-08-08 10:11:48 +0000 UTC]

   You make some interesting points.

    The problem with such 'concepts' as the Guardian, is that such things aren't thought out very well before hand, and that's typical for such things as found in Tv show science fiction.  There just isn't time to reason it all out.

   Other questions hang in the air though.  When asked it it could show the progress of past time being displayed at a different rate, the Guardian answered that it 'was made' to display things that way.  Okay... made that way by whom???  God?  By something else?  Where are they now?  Spock... should be asking these questions, and immediately.

   The unasked or unanswered questions are themselves scary enough, but even scarier is what the Guardian can in fact do!  Otherwise... my own biggest question is... can it also see into the 'future'?  And if so, how far and how clearly?  If it can, perhaps then the Guardian is itself timeless, and likely the most eternal thing... in the entire universe...

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celticarchie In reply to Kavalino02 [2016-08-09 20:22:20 +0000 UTC]

Unasked and unanswered questions is the meat and potatos of fan debate.  Similar questions and debates could be applied to the Doomsday Machine, Whale Probe, Farpoint Creatures, Tin Man and all sorts.

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Kavalino02 In reply to celticarchie [2016-09-03 07:40:34 +0000 UTC]

   Agreed.. and that debating is a large part of the fun of it all  Still... it would be nice to get some real answers to the most pointed questions.  I for one though just wish that the Guardian wasn't so blody mysterious- having so very many answered questions about it.  I think it would have been better if it was merely an abandoned 'device', and one perhaps made by a race- now extinct.  Too much mystery, like too much love... can be a bad thing.

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celticarchie In reply to Kavalino02 [2016-09-13 23:13:01 +0000 UTC]

I don't know, the mystery lets just speculate and create.

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mdbruffy In reply to celticarchie [2013-05-25 23:52:36 +0000 UTC]

This was already posted at Exclalibur Productions. But I wanted to give it more exposure.

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celticarchie In reply to mdbruffy [2013-11-01 00:21:41 +0000 UTC]

yay!

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mdbruffy In reply to celticarchie [2013-11-01 00:36:52 +0000 UTC]

Does this mean you have plans for it?

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celticarchie In reply to mdbruffy [2013-11-01 00:40:15 +0000 UTC]

Not quite plans...but the Excalibur tends to research xeno-archaeological interest planets...so how could Captain Blaise pass up an opportunity to see the Guardian.

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mdbruffy In reply to celticarchie [2013-11-01 00:42:11 +0000 UTC]

Great.

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