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Published: 2010-03-20 02:18:50 +0000 UTC; Views: 1129; Favourites: 16; Downloads: 27
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My first stamp. I might be an agnostic, but I abhor the concept of what most people consider to be 'faith'. Faith means not wanting to know, and claiming that you do.Unless you're dead, you have NO WAY of KNOWING what lies after this plane of existance. Period. Anyone claiming otherwise is both a fool and a liar.
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Religion to me just seems like another excuse for people to claim to be superior to others.
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Please refrain from thinking that religion is the same as faith.
Religion = dead faith.
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Everybody has faith in something. It doesn't always have to be a god.
Also you have your beliefs and people have theirs. If they're fools and liars, then you are too.
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I was referring to the supernatural. Have you died? No? Then you don't know what happens. You don't KNOW.
Do not equate knowledge with belief. And do not use faith in two different contexts. Because that's what you're doing. 'Faith' in medical treatment is not the same sort of faith as the 'faith' of religion. I know medicine works because it has worked every other time I have taken it, or when I have seen other people take it.
People believe in an afterlife because either a book written 1700 years ago tells them about it, or because the idea of there being none is too terrifying to contemplate.
The two are not equal. Do not presume them to be.
Now piss off.
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It depends on your definition of "supernatural". And you're right I don't know, but neither do you, so your point is no valid than mine.
Medical faith and religious are not the same but some people think they are because they are "similar". All I'm saying is everybody has faith in something and we all have our opinions but that does not make them fools. I'm not telling you to agree either. You already stated your opinion.
Well, that's just what they believe in. If you don't then fine, but that doesn't make them fools and I don't expect everybody to believe in something. If they do, they do. If they don't, they don't. Do you understand what I am trying to explain to you?
Who says I did?
Now knock off the attitude. You're not two, so stop acting like it
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Great stamp. No faith is the point.
If you have a faith, you are afraid of losing it. So you are afraid of your hypotetical self without that faith.
So you at least partially, even if your no fanatic, feel a bit of hate and fear for who doesn't share your faith.
So in order not to hate and fear who doesn't share your faith, you must have no one.
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"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
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Well, you certainly have faith in something. Evolution, perhaps?
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If right now scientist told that evolution is not right (but it's highly improbable), I wouldn't certainly become religious. I'd wait for the next serious rational scientific explanation. Just like when some months ago, they seemed to find out that neutrins could go faster than lightspeed, but it was just the instruments.
If people started to believe and make a religion and a church, for example, that relativity wouldn't be right and they started attempting not to make relativity thaught in school and not be thought right in culture, we'd start being against them, so you'd have the illusion we have "faith" in relativity.
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XD Did you know how scientists just "discovered" that there are billions of inhabitable planets in our universe? Yeah, we (the Mormons) already knew that. We knew back in the 1830's that coffee, tea, tobacco and alcohol were detrimental for your health. Centuries later, scientists are beginning to catch up.
Relativity isn't forcing my children to believe in things I'm teaching my children are wrong.
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Scientific knowledge doesn't work like that. While it's generally accepted as the explanation as to how things have come to be biologically on this planet, and while I assume it's true as a convenience, if tomorrow evidence were provided that rivaled it as a viable explanation for the origin of species, I would probably have to take a second look at it.
It is empirically impossible to know anything with any sort of certainty, with the exception of the fact that the universe exists. IE:
1. If there is cause to doubt at least 1 claim, then there is cause to doubt all claims.
2. There is cause to doubt at least 1 claim.
3. Ergo, all claims should be doubted.
1a. All claims should be doubted.
2a. "Existence exists" is a claim.
3a. The claim "existence exists" should be doubted.
1b. If existence does not exist, then doubt about existence cannot exist.
2b. Doubt exists about existence.
3b. Therefor, existence must exist, QED.
True knowledge must be harder earned than what the clergy would have you believe.
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Precisely. You have faith that evolution is correct, because it's not proven (and if you say it's proven, you just said that it's possible to be proven wrong), but you see a lot of evidence you believe to be true, so you believe in it.
I have religious beliefs, but I also "support" science that doesn't contradict those beliefs. Of course, most of science is theoretical, and could be "proven wrong".
Btw, does "clergy" mean "religious leaders that get paid"? 'Cause if so, I don't have any "clergy".
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Evidence proves evolution true. Faith does not enter into it. It's as simple as that.
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If I find a recording of you murdering Obama, and claim that this evidence proves you're to blame, would you be very happy? No. Words mean things. You can't pick what words to define as you please. Banana does not mean socialism. Tooth decay does not mean printer. Ugly does not mean David Tennant. Evidence and proof are two different things. Learning the difference could save your life.
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I'm sorry. Please read what you said, then my response again. It makes sense.
"If I find a recording of you murdering Obama, and claim that this evidence proves you're to blame, would you be very happy? No. Words mean things. You can't pick what words to define as you please. Banana does not mean socialism. Tooth decay does not mean printer. Ugly does not mean David Tennant. Evidence and proof are two different things. Learning the difference could save your life.
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I re-read your response, and it still seems nonsensical to me, irrelevant to my point that evolution, being science, requires no faith. I don't believe in evolution, I just understand why it's true.
As for evidence, there is mountains of it. Proofs, too.
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Clergy are formal leaders of a religious organization.
Unlike your faith, however, I am able to adapt my 'belief' as new evidence is given. The fact that you dismiss any and all 'contradictions' with your ideology is what makes you a zealot. Being unable to see how you could possibly be wrong.
Before you respond, watch this 15 minute video. [link] It rather effectively sums up my views on religion and faith, and will save me a lot of time paraphrasing.
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So, like, the prophet? We don't use the term "clergy" in my Church (CJCLDS).
A zealot? 
It's simple: you run your life based on what you perceive as evidence, and I run on my faith.
I meant to watch it (I watched the first 3 minutes about stuff I already know), but my Asperger's is recking my attention span. If you want to sum it, then do that.
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I really don't want to. If you aren't drawn in the first place to watch it, then I really have nothing else to say to you.
You certainly seem more tolerant than most faith-bound that I've met. As long as you aren't trying to evangelize people I have no qualms with you. I wish you well, and hope you try to perpetuate peace and kindness rather than the judgement and intolerance that so many seem to practice who claim to be religious.
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Suit yourself.
Gee wilikers, thanks!
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This is a good stamp, I really like it.
I'm surprised that it doesn't have many favourites.
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I'm hardly a front page regular.
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I agree. Oh, and you're askin for trouble with this one, buddy, but I agree. XD
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Refer to [link] .
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