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MilkInk β Chandelier Fire
Published: 2011-08-04 07:31:50 +0000 UTC; Views: 4152; Favourites: 216; Downloads: 0
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Shikimi/Shauntal from Pokemon, with Chandelure and Drifblim.Started and composed by Milk , finished by Ink . Considerable time on both parts.
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For a sec i think she was wearing a diaper
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Thank you! This is one of our very first images together.
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Hold on, wait, what? The Chandelure is blurred as if in the background, but it's in front of the Drifblim.... which isn't blurred. It would be cool if that arm of the Chandelure unblurred gradually as it came into the foreground. Aww, but now I'm looking at the original again and missing the texture on the Chandelure...
SORRY TO BE SUCH A HATER I FEEL TERRIBLE
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Ink: It was my first time doing a aperture blur. I really like how it looks when done well. It seemed like the perfect opportunity to try it here (especially on the back Chandelures). Making the arm come in to focus would be awesome, yet I guess I wasn't thinking about going that much into it, seeing as it was my first time even doing the effect. I do miss the texture on the original, but that is about it, the rest is too distracting, and doesn't work to me since its just right there in front of her, at least it doesn't work on this version because of how much more is going on with her.
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I suppose it probably would be too much to unblur it. Too much detail. That's a good point.
I'm not even sure if I would know how to do a forward-moving unblur... I feel like I've done it but I can't remember if it was successful! Thinking about this makes me want to try again.
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Ink: Y'know, at first I didn't even think I would blur that one in front, and I actually began detailing it, mainly in the flames. I did this with every other layer hidden. Then I turned the other layers back on and realized the huge mistake I made: it was wayyy too distracting. SO, then I tried just blurring it. I liked the look far more, it was worth the loss of the texture at least.
I think I have attempted to do that sort of blur that progresses, but its REALLY tricky. I mean, its one of those things where even if you get it right, its almost impossible to tell as the artist doing it, if that makes sense.
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This is pretty cool, I like how you blurred parts to give it depth, but I gotta say I prefer the original version. I hope this just sounds like healthy critique and not an insult, but I'm disappointed by how many shines and shadows were added here. One of my very favourite things about the original was how utterly flat the "black" of Shauntal's clothes wereβthey were so graphic and dramatic and it made the picture look much more clean and modern... and my eyes enjoyed sinking into that colour (plus the flatness of it made the things that were highlighted more shapely by contrastβlike the cleavage, if you'll pardon the potential vulgarity, which I think is kind of lost here). The shines and shades on the hood and dress in this one seem really overly complexβthere's a lot of overlapping layers going on in there! It ends up looking kind of messy to me (sharp shadows are more realistic, too, so it looks somewhat more... er... amateurish), which distracts from the great colours that were used as a base, and to me distracts from the downward perspective of the body, which was one of my favourite parts of the original. All those overlapping highlights fighting for space on the skirt make the skirt come forward, which fights the distant feel of perspective on the lower body that made the original so dramatic.
I do like this edit of the highlights on the Drifblim, though! And once again, that hair is to die for and matches the crispness of the rest of the face a little better than the original.
I hope I'm not being mean... I've heard Ink being pretty okay with giving harsh critiques, though, so I figured it would be okay. I guess I'm breaking dA's rules by critiquing this, though, eh?
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Ink: Heya, I don't think you should compare the two, because you are just a plain-out flat loving guy! Flat will always win for you, in a comparison like this. Everything in your crit revolves around this obsession with flatness, and I just find it out of place here because this version was all about losing that flatness.
Nevertheless, I am still very surprised by your crit! Especially the part about it being "messy". Just the fact that you are a flat lover does not explain it all. I know there must be more behind it, but I don't think it is actually related to what you see in the picture. It's something else, and I think I will take it as a sort of compliment.
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I'm not sure what you mean by "I know there must be more behind it, but I don't think it is actually related to what you see in the picture." You should explain to me sometime and I can explain what I meant by messy sometime, too.
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Hey, anyone notice how after it says "Just Milk version", it doesn't show what I want it to show? Help please.
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I think I got it for now. Milk said there was a way to show a thumbnail of an image from dA (the original Shikimi of hers on her account) but it didn't work when I did it... so I just made that link. For now it works.
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Oh, yeah, you can only make thumbnails if you have a premium account.
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OH ITS A PREMIUM THING. I see.
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Hehe nice perspective! The picture is really fun too :3
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