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Windows7Guy100 [2019-10-27 03:13:11 +0000 UTC]
I noticed that here it says that the CSA abolished slavery in 1905, but a previous entry said that they continued it all the way into the 1910s.
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In the days immediately following the start of the War of Dissolution, many slaves in the south, upon hearing that Lincoln had begun his campaign against the Confederate States of America and the Republic of Texas, were excited, and hoped that it would lead to the end of slavery. As California, Cascadia-Montana, the Plains Federation, and New England seceded, these hopes were dashed as the Confederacy became independent and officially enshrined slavery into its constitution, extending their suffering even further.
In the years between 1866 and 1910, the CSA officially maintained its "peculiar institution" with a fervent passion, even as slavery began to grow economically redundant with the continuing industrialization of the Confederacy. This was more out of a sense that slavery was part of the Southron cultural identity rather than as a viable economic activity, especiall
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Mobiyuz In reply to Windows7Guy100 [2019-10-27 03:15:02 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for pointing that out to me. That was from the earlier versions of TL31, before I'd worked out most of the kinks that were bothering me.
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rds98 [2019-09-04 20:44:13 +0000 UTC]
So is New Africa basically an Afro-American PRC? A communist regime that became an authoritarian capitalist one?
Do New Africans still pay lip service to communism while manufacturing goods at low prices in sweatshops?Β
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Mobiyuz In reply to rds98 [2019-09-04 20:46:05 +0000 UTC]
When I say transitioned, I legitimately mean "transitioned", New Africa is a social democracy like most nations in North America these days. So it's more like Poland than the PRC.
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RizBrony [2019-06-30 17:14:56 +0000 UTC]
Why is Douglass is off the coast ?Β
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Mobiyuz In reply to RizBrony [2019-07-01 00:27:34 +0000 UTC]
It's not, I had to put the marker for it down there because I couldn't make it fit on the map. Douglass is where Jackson, Mississippi is OTL.
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PersephoneEosopoulou [2019-06-30 03:58:08 +0000 UTC]
I assume they followed a Troskeyite/Maoist from of Communism rather then Lincolnist going by the discription?
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Mobiyuz In reply to PersephoneEosopoulou [2019-06-30 03:59:26 +0000 UTC]
Trotskyist mostly, though facing opposition on all sides and being pretty poor and underdeveloped compared to countries like Russia, they couldn't exactly feed into the whole "international revolution" thing. As such, "Fisherism" ended up being much more autarkic in nature.
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Artificer6 [2019-06-29 23:05:52 +0000 UTC]
Going to assume that, like most large-scale population shifts in history, there are still (presumably very small) populations of Anglo-Confederates in New Africa, and Afro-Confederates in the CSA: How would these communities be treated in the modern day? (Assuming I'm right, which if not, just ignore me).
Also, is the Douglass marker supposed to be in the gulf?
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Mobiyuz In reply to Artificer6 [2019-06-29 23:10:43 +0000 UTC]
It's linked to a smaller marker on the map that I didn't have room for.
And yes, there were a few small pockets of Anglo-Confederates in New Africa, but these groups were pretty much restricted entirely to their towns and villages, forbidden to move between cities without express approval from the government, and constantly watched and monitored. Meanwhile, the few remaining Afro-Confederates were treated much the same way, interestingly enough, the difference being that they weren't necessarily constantly under the guns of the military.
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Endorfinator In reply to Mobiyuz [2019-09-04 03:04:52 +0000 UTC]
Why didn't New Africa deport the Anglo-Confederates to the CSA then?
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Mobiyuz In reply to Endorfinator [2019-09-04 03:08:29 +0000 UTC]
Pre-existing communists of the new regime, basically good for propaganda and not much else. They were later rounded up and put in camps for a period of time in the 30s before being let back out and kept under close watch until the fall of the communist regime allowed them to leave.
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Abbieisurqueen [2019-06-29 19:30:13 +0000 UTC]
Dear Gods, we met our sisters on the plains... YEP, alt-me emigrated to California postfuckinghaste.Β
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Abbieisurqueen In reply to Mobiyuz [2019-06-29 22:50:42 +0000 UTC]
It's a neo-Con Marylander thing.
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AlternateHistory [2019-06-29 16:29:25 +0000 UTC]
I wonder how long it'll take before the CSA stops trying to blame others for their problems and actually makes an effort to better themselves.
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Mobiyuz In reply to AlternateHistory [2019-06-29 21:14:37 +0000 UTC]
The CSA was founded on the idea that change was bad.
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Tuskin38 [2019-06-29 12:19:28 +0000 UTC]
So I can guess the meanings behind the names of the states of Tubman and Lincoln plus the name of the nations capital, but I don't recognize the rest of the names, I'm Canadian so if they're common knowledge in the states I wouldn't know.
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AvatarVyakara In reply to Tuskin38 [2019-06-29 14:20:50 +0000 UTC]
Frederick Douglass was another famous escaped slave, and perhaps one of the best orators of his time if not of historyβand thereβs still a good possibility he existed in this timeline. The others may be named for other escaped slaves of note, or they may be named for local landmarks (Iβd have to check the county borders)...
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Mobiyuz In reply to AvatarVyakara [2019-06-29 21:04:33 +0000 UTC]
His birth and life as an anti-slavery activist began well before whenever the POD in TL31 did, so there's still a Harriet Tubman, there's still a Frederick Douglass, and the states are named for various other activists as well, such as Sojournur Truth and Ida Wells, while Lincoln of obvious. Finch, meanwhile, is named for Arthur Finch, a Confederate lawyer who in 1911 led a defence for a black man accused of rape and made a valiant special passionately calling for all people, black or white, to be considered equal, only for him and his defendant to be lynched for their troubles. As such he became a white martyr for the New Africans, a symbol of those who allied themselves to their cause. Arthur Finch is also entirely fictional.
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Windows7Guy100 In reply to Mobiyuz [2019-07-05 15:48:05 +0000 UTC]
Is Arthur Finch a reference to Atticus Finch from To Kill a Mockingbird?
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Mobiyuz In reply to Windows7Guy100 [2019-07-05 15:54:12 +0000 UTC]
Yes, as I am both incredibly uncreative and decided to slip in a reference to something someone would be likely to know.
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