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Description Note: In this fast pace world, people can’t be bothered to read my long winded rants. Here’s the summary of the joke:
1) Movie Spider-Man, unlike comic book Spider-Man, is whiny and angsty and sucks.
2) He was so abysmal and annoying I wished he would just off himself.
3) But…if he did cut his wrists—where his web comes from—wouldn’t he bleed webbing?
4) HAHA MARY JANE IS NAMED AFTER WEED!!!!!11!

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Cappy’s Random Rant
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It has begun. I picked up the first two seasons of South Park because the DVD sets were on sale…and because I’m an immature manchild! I think South Park came out when I was in the seventh grade. I remember my friend Chris running for school president, and making him a campaign poster of “Vote for Chris…or Kenny gets it!” along with a picture of Kenny bound to a chair.
That promotion lasted all of half a day before the administration took down the posters.
I was a man fighting The Man, man!

The purpose of this rant isn’t to impress you girls with my cultured taste in television series. Just like Ren & Stimpy, South Park was awesome BECAUSE of its crudeness. What is it about fuddy-duddy adults that can’t get this concept? And that crudeness was magnified by nuking it in the badassitude machine when they managed to attach some type of social commentary to the show.

And with the season boxsets, I snatched up the South Park movie. Because I enjoy people saying stuff that ticks me off, I decided to see what Roger “I Never Made A Film” Ebert had to say on this masterpiece of cinema. I guess it’s human nature to watch things that make us yell at the screen, and I constantly plug in movies I enjoy into [link] and billow “Constantine WAS a good movie you human beanbag!”

I don’t know why we listen to movie critics, in fact I don’t understand what makes you an authority on cinema other than watching a lot or foreign romance films and having taken an analytical class in community college. Hey! I shelled out thirty frickin bucks for an overpriced foreign film by the Criterion Collection, where’s my snooty diploma?!

As an aside, get Ikiru (To Live) by Akira Kurosawa from the Criterion Collection, when you realize what an utter humanistic jewel this 1952 film is, you realize what utter garbage current live action Japanese films are by stark contrast.
BUT JASSN OMG TEH SUICIDE CLUB!!!! JAPAN ISH EDGY!!!!
Whatever, weeaboo. In Ikiru, an important government official discovers he has stomach cancer. He realizes that, with several decades and a couple appreciation plaques, they equal nothing and leave no mark on the world that he was there.
And the second half of the film takes place AFTER the main character dies!
1952!!
Seven years after getting a bomb dropped on them!!
The acting is jaw droppingly amazing, the character development as the protagonist tries to find meaning, and the depressing-inspiring-depressing social commentary that’s still timely, made me run out the next day and buy half a dozen inflated priced films of Akira Kurosawa’s. Watch his stuff, and then wonder if afterwards Godzilla destroyed all of Japan’s theater schools.

Oh right, let’s get back to this intellectual discussion about the South Park movie! I went to the website that hosts the Siskel-Ebert, Ebert-and-guest-reviewers-when-Siskel-died-from-brain-cancer, Ebert-Roeper, Roeper-and-guest-reviewers-when-Ebert-got-jaw-cancer videos.
JASSN STOP NOW!! U SHOULDN’T ATTACK PEOPLE WHO R SICK, CUZ THEY WILL HAUNT U WHEN THEY DIE!!!!!
Hey now, what happened to Ebert is extremely sad, and I’m hoping his healing process hits no more snags. But when an aspect of somebody’s life hits a snag, it is MORE demeaning to treat them like fragile eggs and not like a fellow person…differing opinions and all.

I loaded the Ebert-and-guest-reviewer-when-Siskel-died-from-brain-cancer video, and it was everything I expected and more! Roger “Said Videogames Could Never Be An Art Form” Ebert was shooting daggers at his coworker with every praise the film garnered.

Guest: I liked this film, South Park may be crude, but I like social commentary they present!
Ebert: Whatever commentary they tried to make, they’re too mean!
Guest: The commentary is very timely; they talk about censuring, and the idea that movies inspire people to mimic what they see.
Ebert: Movies do inspire people to mimic them! I fear this film will do just that! It’s trash and all it inspires people to do is pick up curse words!

Of course, right after I heard Ebert’s condemnation, I googled his review of “Taxi Driver”. Children, let me give you sage advice: knowledge is wonderful, because anybody can uncover it. ‘Taxi Driver’ is a film that stars Robert Di Nero and Cybill Shepherd. It’s about a disturbed taxi driver, an underaged prostitute, and an attempted assassination on a political candidate. Fun fact: The guy who attempted to assassinate Ronald Reagan was obsessed with Taxi Driver, and tried to kill the prez because he thought it would impress the actress from the movie.

So what does Roger “ Protect The Chillens From Influential Films” Ebert had to say about Taxi Driver, a movie that DID inspire a person to want to kill the president?
VISUAL POETRY!
I’VE WATCHED IT A DOZEN TIMES!
THE ULTRA VIOLENT ENDING IS LIKE A MUSICAL SYMPHONY!

Hypocrite. At least I tried to learn something in the South Park movie.

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Cappy’s Rockin’ Rendition
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Once again, me being an adult of sound mind and with full autonomy, found myself standing in the toy department searching for any new Transformer releases. They’ve released those Marvel-Transformer crossover toys. I knew that Jesus wouldn’t forgive me if I chose to deny the Iron Man/McDonald’s jet one…but there was also a Spider-Man/scooter one as well.

I thought about it for a bit.
Why AM I thinking about it?
Do I even like Spider-Man?

The world darkened around me. All the world’s animals bowed their heads, and above, the clouds opened up to shine a beam of radiant light. A voice so aged, so wise, so kind filled my mind:
“My son, it is I.”
“…God? What’re you doing here at Toys R Us?”
“Let your heart’s trouble be eased. Spider-Man is indeed good. At least the comics are. Spidey’s sassy sermons would have filled up people’s bellies with laughter if he were on the mount that day. Except that movie Spider-Man. He was droll. Who’s that actor who screwed that up? I’ll be sure to send him to someplace warm when I meet him.”

So I bought that as well. Spider-Man used to be really cool. He was wise cracking and mostly optimistic…I mean, he’s an effing man-spider! That’s super sweet. I have no clue why they drained all the quirk and charm out of the character for the film.


I wasn’t impressed with the first movie, simply because I had my fill of main characters whining “oh man I can’t do this it’s too much responsibility but with great power comes great responsibility okay I’ll do it!” back when I was an anime jockey in the 90s. The second movie showed real promise, and I haven’t seen the third Spider-Man movie. From what I’ve heard though, right after watching the movie, you’ll crap out a band member of Linkin Park, it’s just so full of angst.

I asked if Venom was in there. He is. I asked if Carnage is in there. He is. And the movie still sucked?! Even Amish kids know who Venom and Carnage are, you need to hold a focus meeting and really make effort to TRY to make them suck.

Apparently, out of all the possible villains, they pick the Sandman to focus on. Dude, the moneymaker is definitely Mysterio and that snowglobe head of his! Jeez, I would’ve settled for the Vulture. I mean, even that lizard in the lab coat would have been more interesting; they could have even borrowed the tyrannosaurus prop from ‘Jurassic Park’ and put a lab coat over it. Ta-daa! I just saved you money on that ludicrous budget you had in making that polished turd.

I’m really getting tired of the dysfunctional love relationship angle every comic book movie has pushed since frickin’ forever. The Superman movie, the Punisher, the Spider-Man suckilogy, Ghost Rider, both retarded beauty and the Hulk movies…I wanna see crap getting blown up! I could care less about these 3D versions of 2D characters and their one dimensional love life, mainly because they all have the same scenario:
“I know that being with you would put my life, my family’s life, and my associates’ lives all in danger, but I want some of that super hero humping!”
And then the inevitable sequel plot twist of “Oh crap, they really did come after me! I totally can’t be with you and your hectic hero schedule with you selfishly saving other people instead of taking me to buy new shoes!”

The only exception to this rule would be the Iron Man dynamic. The actors are just so genuinely likeable, not to mention the most emotionally stable I’ve yet seen, that I found myself rooting for them to hook up. This movie is also what I want to see in a super hero movie: the instant the main character sees a conflict of interest, he takes the reins and charges in to make change. The longer he mopes the more people die! Good on ya, Stark!

About the art. Well, I normally would talk about what the joke means, but I already summarized it above. So…this description is over, the end!
-The “Like The Ending Of Most Super Hero Movies, The Description Ending Leaves No Closure” Cappy

For the copycats: micron pigma pens 05 and 01 (linework), prismacolor markers, colored pencils
References: the first page of a google image search of ‘spider-man’
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Comments: 49

SoyGemVault [2022-09-20 21:24:29 +0000 UTC]

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Phantomlord01 [2016-05-07 11:46:40 +0000 UTC]

And thus we see the deviantart adaptation of Jacques-Louis David's Death of Murat

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RetaredSpider [2015-09-03 19:28:17 +0000 UTC]

 

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boxingcleverksg123 [2014-10-23 14:53:08 +0000 UTC]

your picture is good, the opinions are, and my opinion on actor Tobey Maguire and yours, they do not match, (I don't hate his film career of any of his films he's been in, and his performance as Spider-man is stupendous (not stupid!))
btw any actor can give their Spidey performance their own unique spin... can't argue with that!

        

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iam-comics [2014-09-18 05:12:07 +0000 UTC]

I don't agree about Maguire being annoying as Spiderman, but very nice drawing!!

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SpikeJet2736 [2013-08-03 17:07:33 +0000 UTC]

Movie Spider Man: Annoying

Comic Spider Man: Funny and Annoying

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okayfinewhatever [2013-07-06 05:07:12 +0000 UTC]

i got here by searching "I SURE DO LOVE TURD."

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Sonicblur2-0 [2012-07-01 15:19:45 +0000 UTC]

That sounds about right. Scratch that. IT'S COMPLETELY RIGHT!! I did not like Toby Magurie as Spudey at all.

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Wait0wat [2012-06-11 20:29:07 +0000 UTC]

*LOL* HEH HEH M-M.J. named after weed?!?! XD

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Ryanator50 [2011-09-25 18:52:29 +0000 UTC]

This has got ot be the funniest wrist cutting suicide I've ever seen. Not many are funny at all.

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therabbidsrule [2011-02-15 00:28:46 +0000 UTC]

wow longggggggg description and that is dumb he is not annoying

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Mrcappy In reply to therabbidsrule [2011-08-24 05:01:56 +0000 UTC]

I've taken this long to respond, wanting to come up with a witty retort to this comment...however, all I can come up with is THANKS FOR ADDING ANOTHER VIEW TO THIS PAGE AND MAKING IT MORE POPULAR MWAHAHA!!
-The "Tactful" Cappy

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hotbulletslug [2009-05-25 08:57:16 +0000 UTC]

The second Spider-man movie was the best out of the previous, period. No one likes cob webs.

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Casandraelf [2009-04-04 17:19:15 +0000 UTC]

well, you gotta at least give the movieverse spiderman credit for having spidey possess organic webshooters...that's pretty cool

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UshankaJack [2009-02-24 23:06:24 +0000 UTC]

The web-bleeding is comedy gold.

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Mrcappy In reply to UshankaJack [2009-02-25 09:47:26 +0000 UTC]

Actually, it's kinda sticky.
HEY-OOH!!
-The "With All That Money You'd Think They Could CG Likeable Personalities On The Actors" Cappy

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Vishal4u [2009-02-13 04:10:59 +0000 UTC]

Dude you got a treasure box full of old cartoons. This is funny.

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tomturbo17 [2009-01-02 14:39:58 +0000 UTC]

Oh no!
His angst has overcome him!

Poor tree that was wasted for this.....what?

No, actually, I like it.

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hotbulletslug [2008-11-09 15:43:34 +0000 UTC]

STRAIGHT TO THE POINT: I agree BUT I loved Spiderman 2... The rest were meh. Cute pics though.

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ArchangelXAmy [2008-07-02 00:01:20 +0000 UTC]

That's why I loved Iron Man so much! It's a twenty times better kick-off to summer blockbusters than Spider-man 3 was! That and you are very right. The characters are likeable. Also, most superheroes are like "Nuuu! I put you're life in danger!!1 Stay awayz!" Well, Stark was like "who gives?"

Way to get me started on Spider-man 3. Expect a huge rant now.

You are a lucky, lucky man. You didn't waist your cash on that disgusting movie. I'm a huge, and I mean HUGE, Venom fan. Him and Carnage were awesome. Buuut, they dropped the ball on Spidey's number 1 enimy. I know Green Gobblin is supposed to be his "Joker" of sorts, but you can't deny that the only major threat Gobblin did was throwing Gwen or whatever her name is off the bridge. Venom had all of Spidey's powers and more. The only thing he lacked was a brain of a scientist, which is how Spidey beat him. Well, brains and fire and/or sound. Anyway, Venom didn't refer to himiself as "we," he didn't keep the full Venom outfit for more than 30 seconds, and he was puny. But, I could have even lived with Venom being that bad. He was just icing on the cake of crap. Too much drama, not enough fun. The whole movie was "blar! I broke up!" Seriously, who cares? There was 3 fight scenes. Now, 3 can be okay, but only if it is done well. The first fight scene, pretty awesome. Then we didn't get another one for what seemed like hours. And that one lasted about 30 seconds too! Then, oh boy, then we have to go through more job/break-up problems. Meanwhile, Sandman is running around, stpuid and useless as ever. In the comics, doesn't he eventually become a good guy? Anyway, there is one last fight scene where they rush to get in the "sweet" action shots for the trailers. Venom just got punched out of the way, and Sandman was practically just standing there as a looming, sand giant! Not to mention that for ever second of actioin, they needed to dull it down with 3 seconds of boring drama. (This movie seems to love the number three.) The ending was a chick-flick ending and the movie could only appeal to the girlfriends who were dragged there by their boyfriends.

To recap, it blew. Big time.

Anyway, now that that is over and done with, commentaries make the movie. Whenever I get a new movie, first, I watch it, then I watch it with the commentaries. They're just that good.

Have you ever noticed that most people reply to your rants than tell you how good your art is?

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Mrcappy In reply to ArchangelXAmy [2008-07-06 13:42:45 +0000 UTC]

There are two reasons why I write down my opinions:
a) megalomania
b) it gives people something to talk about other than "W00T U DREW TRANSFORMERZ"

And luckily I have super smart art buddies like you that make me break out the popcorn and reserve half an hour to go thru reading what you write down.
-The "I Love That I Force People To Break Their Comments Into Paragraphs" Cappy

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ArchangelXAmy In reply to Mrcappy [2008-07-06 13:48:51 +0000 UTC]

Megolomania? What?

Wewt. yu drawded Tranzformsees!

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Mrcappy In reply to ArchangelXAmy [2008-07-06 13:53:07 +0000 UTC]

Also, am I the only one who kept associating megalomaniac with legomaniac?
-The "Both Terms Help To Build Something" Cappy

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ArchangelXAmy In reply to Mrcappy [2008-07-06 14:05:33 +0000 UTC]

Now that you mention it...

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octupus8 [2008-07-01 20:16:25 +0000 UTC]

Lmao, nice.

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twisted-angel21 [2008-07-01 11:59:14 +0000 UTC]

Yay! You do a comic about something I've actually seen!

I spent the majority of SM3 laughing my head off, as I found the idea of emo-spidey fricken hilarious. About as hilarious as this cartoon.

Ther moral of the South Park movie is learn many swearwords, so that if Saddum ever comes back you may be able to defeat him. At least thats what I thought it was....

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Mrcappy In reply to twisted-angel21 [2008-07-01 15:02:52 +0000 UTC]

And also that parents need to actively take a role to monitor what their offspring view, instead of attacking the producers of films they find objectionable and pushing their moral cause on the rest of society. Unless, of course, you're part of the "Anti-Canada Coalition" and felt those beady eyed head flappers deserved it.
Racist.
-The "Is Canadian Even A Race?" Cappy

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twisted-angel21 In reply to Mrcappy [2008-07-02 09:32:42 +0000 UTC]

Well from watching Sailor Moon Abridged I've learnt that not only is Canada not a race, it doesn't even exist. Its actually Northern Mexico.

No offense to the Canadians.

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Bright-Feathers [2008-07-01 07:59:38 +0000 UTC]

I have seen Spiderman I, II, & III, Iron Man, and The Hulk (by Marvel, not the one by Ang Lee). I have not read any of the comics, however, I was into the superhero cartoons and stuff. I have to say Iron Man and The Hulk totally beats Spiderman in terms of character developments, the perspectives/angles the movie portrayed and the storyline.

The first Spiderman movie was okay. However after watching the second and third movie, I wished they'd stopped with the first one.
The things that I do not like about Spiderman:

1. "With great power comes great responsibility."
2. Your partner has to come first (referring to his relationship with the MJ). I believe it was in part III where he started to put his own needs first and was ignoring MJ's singing career or something (it was so bad, that I do not remember most of the storyline).
3. My sister said she does not like Kristin D. I thought she was a good actress, but her acting could have been better (no offense to Kristin's fans), her going back and forth between Harry and Peter was kind of annoying, chose! Harry was a more forgivable character than Peter, in my opinion.
4. The typical Hollywood overexaggerated typical "Hot girl and a geeky guy theme."

What do I like about marvel's The Hulk and Iron Man? It delivers! Iron Man was particularly interesting because of the background story and the slow development and finally to the climax. The characters were good to watch, both Stark and the girl were not to mushy-mushy (whatever that means).

The Hulk was as enjoyable as Iron Man. I was particularly excited when Stark appears at the end of The Hulk. I believe in 2011, the original Avenger Team will appear together in a movie together. Boy! Marvel sure knows how to sell. The romance between the Bruce (Edward Norton) and Betty Ross (Liv Tyler) were really well portrayed, not too exaggerated. Both actors portrayed it really well. Tim Roth was great as Abomination. The final scene where Hulk and Abomination fought was a great action scene done by CG, I believe.

I saw Edward Norton in American History X in high school and had liked Edward Norton since then. Also Liv Tyler played the Elf princess in The Lords of the Rings, and was one of my many favorite movies.

I like how in this version of the Hulk compared to Ang Lee's version, the Hulk's character has more depth. In the new version, we can see that the Hulk is not just some monster, he is clearly trying to control his anger and himself. Whereas in Ang Lee's version, Hulk was portrayed as high as 15 feet tall. However, in the original comic, Hulk grows to be about 7 or 8 feet tall. Which the new version made him to be 9 feet tall, and was beautifully portrayed.

Don't take my word for it. Watch and find out for yourself, whether you like it or not.

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Mrcappy In reply to Bright-Feathers [2008-07-01 15:13:38 +0000 UTC]

I didn't care for the new Hulk movie because they mixed in the generic chick flick plot. "You disappeared from my life, and even though I have moved on and am engaged to a man with a stable job who emotionally supports me...I'M GONNA GO RUN OFF WITH YOU ALL BONNIE AND CLYDE STYLE WOO HOO SEX 'N DRUGS BABY!!!" I also dislike that there's usually nothing objectionable about the main fiance, he's just a nice guy who gets left in the dust so she can go off with the unstable bad boy.
-The "Like I Said, Stark And Secretary Are The Most Emotionally Stable Comic Book Love Interests" Cappy

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Bright-Feathers In reply to Mrcappy [2008-07-02 08:17:55 +0000 UTC]

Oh yeah! Thanks for pointing that part out, the "You disappeared from my life, and even though I have moved on and am engaged to a man with a stable job who emotionally supports me...I'M GONNA GO RUN OFF WITH YOU ALL BONNIE AND CLYDE STYLE WOO HOO SEX 'N DRUGS BABY!!!"
I agree, that was one of the factor of the movie that I dislike. I sort of feel bad for the fiance dude.

I think one of the reason why I liked the movie is because, as you pointed out, it's a chick flick plot. I like chick flick plot but it has to be realistic enough or not overly exaggerated. Maybe it's because of my romantic nature. I think everybody has a little bit of a romantic nature, if not a lot. LOL

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Mrcappy In reply to Bright-Feathers [2008-07-02 08:32:03 +0000 UTC]

Let us just be grateful the director didn't try to make it a total romance film.

"HULK, SEX!!!"

-The "Rectum? Damn Near Killed 'Em!" Cappy

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Bright-Feathers In reply to Mrcappy [2008-07-02 20:38:09 +0000 UTC]

Here's a poem of ya. There is a reason why I do not major in English.

"Hulk and Abomination"
"Sitting on a tree"
"K-I-S-S-I-N-G"
"First came lust, second came sex, and third came marriage."

They totally could have turned it into a romance film. LOL

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wordybirdie [2008-07-01 07:08:04 +0000 UTC]

Eh, I never read the original Spiderman comics, but I loved the first movie and I thoroughly enjoyed the second movie. I like it if characters have emotions -- makes ‘em more complex, I think. Then I can care about them. The third one, though, I just didn't like it. That one was way way way too angsty, I didn't like what they did with Spiderman's character. Also, I think they should have just cut out the sand man and focused on Venom and Harry.
As for South Park, my friend likes to claim that the reason he is so good at history and social studies (better than me) is because he watches South Park. He often teases me for my relative ignorance about world affairs too. Also supporting the intellectual stimulation of South Park, he told me about a reference to Grapes of Wrath that was included in one of the jokes – apparently this proves that you have to understand literature to understand South Park. Well, this may be so, but I think that would be the exception rather than the rule. I guess I’m just a sensitive soul, or a prude, whatever you want to call it, but I honestly can’t handle South Park’s coarseness. I can barely sit through a commercial without shuddering internally. I personally think that, although many of the jokes can be interpreted as social commentary, they often simplify and degrade complex issues with asinine and crude comedy that goes way too far for me. Generally referring to political and social issues is not the same as analyzing them or understanding them. I mean come on. Very few jokes could be rightfully called thought provoking, and, honestly, that is Nawt what South Park is about – just because they have an occasional relevant point does not fully negate the thought-erosion of all of the stupidity that comes in between. South Park is first and foremost humor that gets its popularity from being absurdly crude and their draw comes from their ability to get away with absolutely anything they want – nawt from making people think. It’s a crazy show that celebrates the things that used to be taboo to talk about all the while shamelessly stretching ideals of the first amendment to its limits. The freedom of it is a great thing, I guess, and I won’t condemn anyone just because they like something I don’t like, I just don’t wanna see ‘em get all gross in front of me.

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Mrcappy In reply to wordybirdie [2008-07-01 14:57:04 +0000 UTC]

I think you're the first one to actually comment on the South Park rant; I had to check a couple times to make sure I actually included it and didn't imagine I did. Maybe South Park murdered a friend of a friend of a friend's brother and am unaware about it.

To be sure, South Park is vile deluxe in a special edition dookie-brown crude packaging. I would argue that people mostly focus on the crude aspect rather than to understand the social commentary a majority of the episodes have.

Although to be fair...the episode where Cartman tricks a bully's parents into being shot by a rancher, then cutting up the bodies and feeding the parents to the bully in a chili cookoff? No moral there. Or maybe the moral's not to jack with unstable people... But it's absolutely okay if the show's not your bag.

My issue with Ebert is, as a critic, I would think he should be objective and weigh (heh) both sides, point out why this movie would draw in certain populations, or the merits of the movie even if you don't like the presentation. It seemed ironically childish that the guest reviewer had to coax that Ebert did see the messages presented in the movie and wasn't going to share them because they cussed a lot and the cussing didn't lead to sexual tention (like with Pulp Fiction).

Also about your friend being cultured for knowing a book reference. I've always been irked when people refer to books as a descriptive term to hammer a point home. It usually translates to “HEY I READ OLD BOOKS SO I AM A WELL ROUNDED PERSON WHO ACTUALLY DID THE ENGLISH ASSIGNMENTS IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL!!!”

I think my dislike stems from when I used to watch political shows; almost every week some tool would make a reference to an “Orwellian world” or “Big Brother”. The terms are from a WWII era propaganda book entitled ‘1984’. Orwellian world means to have totalitarian government, and Big Brother was a government that watched every move you made, but the Big Brother image gave you the impression that he loved and cared about you.
There, you’re politically savvy now.

I think maybe it's a White people trait to quote books, as those're the only people I've seen do it. I wouldn’t mind book references if you took the time to explain the references to people who didn’t read it, instead of the usual intent of “I just made a classy remark, only fellow classy people will understand my reference!”
-The “That Employee Acted So ‘On My Honor’ To His Coworker!” Cappy

P.S. a quick blurb about the awfulness of that “award winning book” about not telling authorities that your best friend drowned in a river [link]

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wordybirdie In reply to Mrcappy [2008-07-01 22:54:41 +0000 UTC]

Well, I guess the legitimacy of my minirant on your rant about South Park is a bit crippled by the fact that I do not actually watch South Park – but that is, truly and honestly, because I cannot take it. I’m more desensitized now, but when I was younger, my parents never ever cursed (they didn’t even use the word “cuss” around me and my TV and movie watching was monitored so that, by middle school, I had no immunity to these things, and when I saw even the smallest snippet of something like South Park I would physically, involuntarily shudder and/or cringe. I’m not making that up. It was awful. So the reason why many people do not appreciate South Park’s social commentary may be that they’re something like me. I Can’t get past the stuff. And the reason that more people focus on the crude aspect rather than the social commentary is because it is the most outstanding feature of the show and has made it what it is. Whether the social commentary is just a medium for the crude humor or vice versa is debatable, I guess, but probably the show’s creators never wanted to choose one or the other and instead bounce back and forth when they feel like it. But then again, I’ve hardly watched a full episode, so who am I to say, eh?

I don’t know much about Ebert and Roeper, so I’m not sure about that. But I see what you mean about picking out the good parts of something. I never saw the movie Sin City, but I’ve seen enough clips to know that it’s not for me. But you gotta appreciate the style they’ve got going there, it’s terrifically striking and really brings the comic book to the screen. That can’t be easy to do. It doesn’t really redeem the subject matter, (it really emphasizes it) and I’m not gonna watch it, but, it’s not just a movie that has nothing to its name but vulgarity.

As for the literary references bit, the reason why my friend brought up the Grapes of Wrath reference was because we were reading the book in my AP English class at the time, and it was all part of a running argument we have about the merits of South Park. Often if I express wonderment at his cultural literacy, he’ll tell me “I know that because I watch South Park” while I usually respond that South Park is not a reliable source for understanding issues or history (we are also in AP history) and that his knowledge comes from the textbooks he denies reading and more serious media, while seeing references in shows on Comedy Central, at most, only reinforce what he learned elsewhere. He thinks it’s funny that I respond like that and that’s how it goes. He’s pretty crass himself, actually, and he’s well known for (facetiously) weaving racist and politically incorrect comments into his everyday speech. I’ll forgive him, seeing as how he plays high school football. I wanna slap him sometimes though, and he’s a bad influence. Oh, and, just for the record, he’s not white. I think he’s Latino or Italian, but he won’t tell me for sure, insisting, rather, that he’s Asian, Arab, black or whatever other rubbish pops into his head.

I like referring to literary things, saying that something is Orwellian or referring to Big Brother is just another way of effectively conveying an idea, the same way that comedians allude to things in pop culture to make a funny. The difference is that literary references are more highbrow because chances are that most people won’t get them, only those who have read the book. But you can’t really blame those political experts for referring to Orwell’s 1984 all the time. It’s a highly influential book with many ideas in it that are still highly relevant to current political issues. Even if they haven’t read the book, most people have probably heard the quip “Big Brother is watching you” and would know what it means. You make references to Transformers and video games that are far more obscure than 1984; all the time, actually. A lot of the shirts at Busted Tees . com are like that too, making jokes that you have to be in the know to get. I guess I just like inside jokes, and references to literature or culture are like giant inside jokes that people can unite under. And just like the comedian, it kind of slows down your momentum if you have to explain what you just referred to, and most of the time, these references are made in a context that people should be able to figure it out. I see it more as an incentive to become more well read, so that I know what’s going on all of the time. So that’s all I have to say about that.

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cyclopz [2008-07-01 05:01:24 +0000 UTC]

Completely true, and it's good to hear that people can appreciate comic Spidey even though he has been splattered with the movies's diarrhea. Which will never wash off!

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Mrcappy In reply to cyclopz [2008-07-01 06:25:36 +0000 UTC]

Of course it won't wash off, Spider-Man diarrhea is radioactive!!
-The "Does Whatever A Spider Can: Like Completely Destroy Its Mate" Cappy

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rhyskidreams [2008-07-01 05:00:28 +0000 UTC]

Side-note:

Why do I have this memory of Spiderman being a sciency dork and CREATING web-shooting gadgets, rather than that being part of his new powers?

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Mrcappy In reply to rhyskidreams [2008-07-01 06:29:53 +0000 UTC]

I have a vague memory that he INVENTED the spider butt wrists. I think the only thing the spider bite gave him was wacky-wall-walker abilities and those yellow stink waves that come from his head.
-The "Spider Butt Wrists Are Still A Better Invention Than The Spider Butt Crotchguard!" Cappy

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rhyskidreams In reply to Mrcappy [2008-07-01 17:48:37 +0000 UTC]

Yea, that was my impression. The "Spidey-sense" (which was totally unrelated to common sense), wall-crawling, and somewhat enhanced strength. He created the webbing gadgets to get around easier.

I've been up late a lot lately, and a couple of times caught this old campy 70's cartoon "Spiderman and His Amazing Friends", which is Spidey, Iceman and some rarely-mentioned X-Man (or X-woman) called Firestar.

The best episode so far was when they went up against Dracula, the wolfman, and Frankenstein's monster.

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fuzzyforever [2008-06-30 22:37:20 +0000 UTC]

I completely agree with both arguements. When something is made fun of in a violent way for the sake of comedy, it's considered crude and moronic. If something is used in a supposedly dramatic way, it's beautiful. There's beauty in so many things, and to dismiss them without considering that fact is just plain ignorant.

As for Spiderman, the superhero romance does get predictable, but I guess it's because it's the logical thing that would happen. But they could at least try and improve the writing for the romantic scenes.
Speaking of romance in superhero movies, these writers should give the characters developement, that's a given, but it's an action movie. Not one of those damn chick flicks. And that's why I nearly died watching the second Spiderman movie, too much angst. I missed the quirky comments after he kicked major butt. And they should have paid more attention to Venom. Venom is a great concept.

That's why my favourite superhero is Batman, he has no powers, he's just smart and really strong.

As for the art, I still love way you shade and highlight. I also like how you use marker and pencil crayon combinations.

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rhyskidreams In reply to fuzzyforever [2008-07-01 04:57:48 +0000 UTC]

Batman IS Super-Rich.

And angsty.

But that's traditional for a character who became the embodiment of vigilante justice BECAUSE HIS PARENTS GOT KILLED.

Spiderman was traditionally an upbeat dorky sort of guy, not Angsty McWishywashy.

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ShebaKoby [2008-06-30 17:26:54 +0000 UTC]

Bwahahahaha! Good one. Makes me feel better about missing the Spiderman movies.

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FluffyScootabunny [2008-06-30 17:07:01 +0000 UTC]

Blasting Linkin Park's "Crawling in my Skin" I must say?

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Starscreamer07 [2008-06-30 09:24:06 +0000 UTC]

well I can say that I've seen all three movies - the last one was ok - but there were some parts that just could have been left out.
I wont go into detail.
I'm not a spoiler.
But in comparison to the TV show and the comics - yeah they were WAY freakin' off on his character.
and also
...am I a bad person for hoping that in each movie something tragic would happen to Mary Jane?
I can't be the only person who thought she was absolutely terrible...

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Mrcappy In reply to Starscreamer07 [2008-06-30 09:57:01 +0000 UTC]

Don’t check yourself into that mental institution yet, for your Cappy will tell you NO! You are not crazy. In fact, every person I’ve talked to has stated Kirsten Dunst (who, with no sense of irony, gets high in real life) was teeth grindingly bad as Mary Jane. Speaking of MJ, the only way to be more obvious on the word play would have been to name her Spliff McBongsmokingstein.
-The “Maybe Dunst Was So High She Thought Spider-Man Was One Of Her Trips And Was Humoring Him” Cappy

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psychoboy [2008-06-30 08:47:32 +0000 UTC]

Protip: Carnage wasn't in the movie. It would've been about 10 times better if he was.

Also, I agree about the whole sandman thing. How did he wind up being the focus? Sandman was always that villain that Spidey is already in the MIDDLE of fighting right when the comic starts, and within 2 pages he's caught, and the real story starts.

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LukeDenby In reply to psychoboy [2011-04-06 21:08:27 +0000 UTC]

Sandman was the orignal villain planned and written for the movie. Pressure on the director caused Venom to be shoehorned into the already existing plot causing a fairly messy movie. While I agree Sandman isn't my favorite villain the movie would have been much better with just him.

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