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Sketching-Panda-Ren In reply to Sketching-Panda-Ren [2012-12-31 06:19:50 +0000 UTC]

>> I couldn't help it... I wanted to know it it looked good.
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Night-Apparations In reply to Sketching-Panda-Ren [2013-01-04 14:52:16 +0000 UTC]

I actually really like this idea. it does kind of fit Welgea.

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Nakate In reply to IzuiII [2012-12-26 10:35:15 +0000 UTC]

It's not, no, but we've been doing a lot of conceptual work on 2 just because we had an interesting idea for it. Got a little carried away in actually designing this character. Certainly not doing any actual work on 2 until 1 is done, I just thought this character was kind of neat and wanted to design her.

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IzuiII In reply to Nakate [2012-12-26 10:47:36 +0000 UTC]

oh, okay i really want welgea :]

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Nakate In reply to launder [2012-12-26 10:32:27 +0000 UTC]

1 is completely planned out and I'm working on the actual work part of it. We're not doing much with 2, but got a few ideas.The only real thing we were focusing on with 2 was to get the world setting done since that affects 1 as well. Since 1 is all actual work now, we were doing some conceptual stuff for 2 that wouldn't affect 1's work. Admittedly, I got a little carried away with this one, started thinking about what she'd look like and wanted to put it on paper.

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launder In reply to Nakate [2012-12-27 05:53:22 +0000 UTC]

I know you're working on it; I actually followed it quite closely when I was part of your forum, and I still keep my ears pearked for any info on twitter nowadays. I just kind of really wnt to play it (I likle Metroidvania style games), and, from what you've shared, I also like your artsyle/story ideas so far, so anytime something pushes the development of the game further back, I'm all like "Aw, man." And then I get over it, because it'll be here when it's here.

Really, I only offered the warning because some of my friends fell to that trap, and then ended up not finishing either of the games they wanted to make.

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Pokeeeveegirl In reply to launder [2012-12-26 09:27:51 +0000 UTC]

If you have to add disclaimer i.e. "without trying to sound rude" yeah, you're being rude. It's his choice on what he wants released, seeing how it's his game. If you want to create a game, go ahead, and manage it the way you want to.

Naka has actually started the programming for it. I don't know how far he is with it, seeing how that hasn't been released. But to say "counting your chickens before the eggs have even been laid" isn't really fair in that regard.

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launder In reply to Pokeeeveegirl [2012-12-27 05:49:57 +0000 UTC]

One, actually, no, that's not true. It's usually true, I'll give you that much, but in this case, since this is the internet, and it's basically impossible to tell if someone is being rude because therr is no tone to hear, it's easier to add a disclaimer then to wait for someone to misinterpret what I worte as being rude when it wasn't, and then having to explan to them that it wasn't intended as such. In fact, my standard disclaimer says as much "It is/was not my intent to be rude, but if this came off as such by accident, I apologize." is what I usually write (and at the end). I'm not sure why I changed it for this one, as the way I worded it above does seem like it would be rude by nature.

Two, I also said nevermind, which meant I was retracting my statement. I posted it anyway, because retracting ones statement on the internet doesn't have quite the same effect since no one see's the throught process ocurring, like in real life, where someone might say something, pause, and then take it back because they realized something as they were speaking. It was my intent to emulate such a thing as closely as possible in writing.

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Pokeeeveegirl In reply to launder [2012-12-27 06:10:08 +0000 UTC]

If you need to add "not trying to sound rude" because you think it might be mistaken as rude, then, yes, you're being rude. It's very simple.

You seriously went off on a rant over something like that? First off, one question; If you retracted your statement, what was the point of even commenting anyway seeing as how you were simply saying things you didn't mean? Doesn't make much sense...

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launder In reply to Pokeeeveegirl [2012-12-28 00:20:42 +0000 UTC]

First of all, I didn't rant. Trust me, you know when I rant (I'm not a nice ranter. I curse. A lot). I am exceedingly verbose on even the most simple of matters, though, so you may be confusing that with a rant.

Second, rarely are things so black and white. As I have stated, I have posted things before that were misinterpreted as rude, when, had they been asked in person, there would have been no question of my being not rude. It's much like sarcasm; no one can ever tell if someone is being sarcastic on the internet because sarcasm is expressed as much by body language and tone of voice as it is by the words that are used. Without those two, sarcasm is often taken as someone's actual opinion, and opinion taken as being sarcastic.

Again, I will admit that it's not quite the same, but it it is close; rudeness is often tone as much as it is the words that are said; without Naka being able to hear that I would have said what I did in an honest and earnest tone, it can be interpreted as rude, because writing comments is not the same as writing a book. I can't write a comment and then put "... He said earnestly, his voice filled with curiosity." It just doesn't work.

Next, as I previously stated, I posted the statement anyway because I was trying, in writing, to recreate the effect of someone verbally questioning something, and as they question it, they work through the logic of such a thing on their own without interference, and then retract the statement. I wanted that effect to be seen, so that, yes, I could basically fish for further info on the character and how Naka was working on the games.

Basically, if someone says the above, even if they are saying it to themselves, people around them still can hear them and see them going through the logic, can see them coming to understand without it having to be explained. On the internet, had I retracted it before I posted, it simply would not have been seen. By posting, I'm opening myself up to criticism from people (like yourself), and that's alright. If I don't post, my thoughts and opinions are never placed out there, but so is the info that people are coming to understand what Naka is doing.

If I didn't post, you may say "good," but if Naka didn't want comments, he would turn them off (can you do that on DeviantArt?) or post this stuff in a place where people can't comment.

Hell, he responded to me, and I explained the reason as to why I gave my original comment further; I have programmer friends who fell into the trap of designing the sequel before the first was complete, and never finished either because of it. I honestly want to play Naka's game; from what info he's given it sounds like it'll be a lot of fun, and so I don't want him to fall into the same trap.

One final thing. An example of possible (or, rather, most definite) misinterpretation; I found your first response to me to be unnecessarily aggressive, and your second to be threatening upon my initial reading. Not literally, as you said nothing threatening, but in my mind the stance a person would take as they said that is physically threatening. Did you intend that? I'm going to go out on a limb and assume not. For all I know, you could be writing this all with the same earnestness and honest confusion in your "voice" I had wrote mine. And then of course, I tried to approach the response from a different point of view, and my interpretation of your response grew and changed as well.

Sorry for any spelling/grammar errors. I'm typing this while trying to eat dinner.

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Pokeeeveegirl In reply to launder [2012-12-28 01:53:29 +0000 UTC]

TL;DR

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