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Just a few select sketches from the past few months. I've done a lot more than this but these are a few of my favourites xDAll are done in around 5-10 minutes in ball point pen.Β
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f.....five...... five to ten..... minutes???
I am astonished. I will attempt to struggle up to your level some day.
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I've been drawing almost a decade at this point, much practice and building speed over the years lmao
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*steals them all to scan them in* Muahahahahah *sneaks them back before Rachel notices* Β xDDDDD
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Jezz, seriously how on earth do you make your lines so smooth?!! It looks like you use the river brush I'm so jealous! I can never understand how anyone gets such beautiful lineart, so detailed yet SO simple, so gestural yet insanely structural, I literally can't comprehend it.Β
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I don't know xD Lineart has always been one of my strong points, I guess using pen helps to solidify those lines and prevent smudging. But it might just be that I'm overly careful xD
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Man your super lucky! Line art has always been my biggest weakness along with color, I've been drawing with strict pen for the same reason but man. I draw with pencil first, my gesture dies, I draw only using pen, they get stiff and messy. Draw slowly, the end result is shaky, draw fast, the line is uncontrollable, Use line weight and nothing makes sense, no line weight and its boring. I've been like this for years practing every single day basic techniques and I still don't know what I'm doing wrong. D: I'm the opposite, I used to be careful but then I became to attached to my art, but when I take my time, the art gets worse somehow as well. With or without refs.
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I wouldn't say I'm lucky, I've been drawing for many years too and I've been drawing in pen for like a year now. I've always had a kind of gesturely line, and I've loved to always pair it with my old manga lineart style owo If you want more dynamic lines in pen whilst still keeping it pretty true to life anatomically wise or such, then just do a lot of gesture drawing in pen and that should help xD
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I've been doing gesture drawing almost daily for the past 3ish years now, and gestures are still one of the biggest problems I have with my art. I've been devoted to just pen mostly for about a year and a half and my lines still REALLY suck, I'm talking not even close to professional and I draw every day and every moment I can grab. I do them with pen and digital and man I feel I keep feeling I have disillusions of grandeur. One day their fine, the next they I swear they are the worst things earth could bestow.Harder still if finding criticism and tips I see online don't help. "be confident, use sweeping lines!" To me thats like saying "use the action button!" without ever telling which button is the action button on a controller. I keep hearing digital is easier, but man photoshop for me has the hardest settings to make look right, right next to corel painter bad. I wish I could say I'm getting better, but next to other artists... Its pretty obvious I'm not.Β
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Some people do improve at different rates and it's very possible that you are but you're not noticing it. The way I developed mine was when I started drawing I used to watch a lot of anime, and anime especially that had distinct lineart. I'd read mangas and I guess I just started mashing a load of lineart styles together. Now I based my lines on many fundamental factors such as light (lines would be heavier where in the image it would be darker and so forth), perspective and expression. I think in your case based on what you've said it sounds like you don't know what your problem is and because of that you don't know how to resolve it. When you can't resolve something it won't get better. So my best guess is you should find a lineart style you really like and try to mimic it, when you get the hang of it it'll eventually seep into your own style and become something unique. I hope that helps! But either way don't feel upset about it, you can't rush art and it takes a very long time to build skill. I've been drawing in my lineart style and developing it for over 6 years now ^w^ And I feel old xD
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I'll have to do more lineart studies then! 
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Hmm, it could be that you're relying too much on reference. This is what I always try to be careful of, if you do too many studies, too many paintings from still life or anything that doesn't require your own thinking ability, you won't apply any of what you've learnt. This is why working from imagination is good, it gets you thinking about your painting, it makes you think about everything you're going to put in it, the lighting, colours, shadows, form etc. In a study or still life, that's already planned out and laid out for you on a plate, all you'd have to do is draw what you see, which is why none of that knowledge you're gaining is working in imagined pieces. Studies definitely do help you learn faster but you have to apply that of which you learn to your own pieces otherwise it's just copying. This video should help! It's pretty short and sweet but he tells you exactly how to get the most out of your studies in order to improve in other areas.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kfK46β¦
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Thats something that I definitely did when I practiced painting a while back, any "study" I saw people online do was just a copy and when ever I thought I did a good job I thought I was learning, but was never told there even WAS a difference. It always feels like I learn the process I've been using was wrong only a few years after I learned it lol. Thanks for showing the video, I really wish I had seen it a few years ago, it reminds me of a shorter version of Sycra's Iterative drawing video.Β www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0ufz7β¦ I have been using this process ever since this vid came out. Although helpful, the studies have negatively impacted me in that making finished art is much harder for me now. One thing that annoys me though is after I watch it, I feel no matter what I do, I can never do a study right by Anthony's standards. I feel you almost already have to know the answer to the art question before you even ask yourself it AND be smart enough to know HOW to practice it. (At least with athletes they usually have a coach to tell them what to do and whenever people learn a language they usually have a teacher or a program.) For example my terrible lineart, I have no idea how I would practice smooth lineart using this method. Even though I fill pages of draftsmanship line exercises I don't feel better nor see a difference.
But with paint, I just decided to jump ship on that, even if I did somehow magically got better overnight, I was burned too badly by the year of studies and I find no joy in painting anymore.Β
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There's not much I can suggest other than to keep at it, you're not going to get better moping around wishing you were better after all! I go through periods all the time where I feel my art has degraded or I've lost skill in some way, perhaps it's just your eye improving? Usually your ability to see mistakes improves first and a lot faster so it may just be that you're not giving yourself enough time to properly adjust or improve. And 'art' isn't meant to be right! Even studying it, so long as you find a way of retaining information you gain from these studies then there needn't be a right or wrong way xDΒ
Personally I'd say doing a whole year of just studies is bad. It takes around 6 months to develop a habit and like I said previously, if you get into a habit of painting from reference then you're not going to be very good without it. Try to balance everything out, sometimes I don't do studies for months and then just work on imaginary stuff, but I feel my imaginary stuff doesn't have the feel I want or enough realistic influence, which is then when I do a lot of studies. I only do enough so that I feel my painting ability has reached a point where I don't need them anymore. It's good to experiment with these things and finding what's best for you, something for one person might not work for another, it's a case of finding that out yourself xD
And as for the painting for joy thing, yeah I understand completely. Last year, around the time I started back at university in September, I got into a slump about art and I felt I wasn't good enough or I wasn't improving, and that I had to get better within a set amount of time. So I studied every single day, I did master studies, thumbnails, rough paintings, binge watched other artists painting and tutorial videos. Eventually I burnt myself out, and I was literally forcing every brush stroke on these paintings that I didn't even want to do. At that point I was painting purely for the act of improving and it made me hate art, I stopped drawing and painting for nearly 5 months. I eventually got back into it in the recent few months just because I missed what had originally got me to love it so much, I wanted to enjoy it again and have fun. So in answer to that, perhaps you're just not really drawing what you find fun? It's good to take a break and really think about what you love about art, and get that passion again!
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I feel bad as well when I draw a lot too, I feel I'm wasting so much paper and have no idea where to put it, I have big stacks of terrible art that I honestly have no idea what to do with, and when I draw digitally I feel I'm cheating myself as well.Β
Your comment makes me wish I went to an art university. How much do you think it affected your education? I feel its the main difference between our studies, I know its not everything, but I really wish I had a mentor to talk consistently to and other artists to connect with, and have at least a direction and not feel lost every day and not feel lazy when I tell people I'm training to be an artist. I feel I did the same thing you did and are now doing, I'm trying to do what I want and haven't done an official "study" in forever, but without any success in my opinion. During that year I painted what I wanted as well as did studies, ( Almost every day I painted a still life or etc, drew from imagination and tried drawing from life.)but even now when I do what I want, the passion is still lost and I get super depressed. I took a week break from DA to ask myself what about art do I like, but still haven't found an answer. What I like to look at I find no joy in painting, and vise versa, and drawing dragons isn't a way to make a living so I've heard. Β I understand you don't have to enjoy everything about painting, but I don't think I'm not supposed to hate it this much either. Still can't imagine myself painting the way I want.Β
At least in painting from refs, if it sucks that means that my ability is bad, but when I paint from imagination, if it sucks, then not only does my dexterity and ability suck, but my ideas and my thoughts suck as well. So painting what I want and showing people is really hard for me. It almost feels like a personal attack if they hate it. lol.
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Hmm I'm not really sure to say, it sounds like you're in some kind of long standing artblock, it might help to try drawing something out of your comfort zone. Generally when you've been drawing the same thing for so long your brain gets used to patterns which means drawing the same thing constantly might mean your brain is getting complacent. When you get complacent you're less likely to learn things and it could just be that you're not enjoying dragons anymore. I draw dragons a lot too but sometimes I move onto something else or just not draw them for a while. I'd say it would help to rekindle what you enjoy about art but in other ways, find inspiration, look up artists and get motivation, take a walk and just enjoy nature.Β
And also having that kind of mindset is not good for your artistic endeavours. Art is an expression, it's an oulet for emotion and you shouldn't be forcing yourself to improve if you aren't enjoying it :c And you definitely shouldn't feel bad about your art, there's no such thing as 'bad art' there're just different levels and opinions. I'd personally suggest you get your motivation back for art in general before you worry about your skill level, skills come with practice, practice comes with dedication and passion, both of which are hard to get especially if you're feeling really down about it. I can't tell you how to get your motivation back because it works differently for different people. My experience was that I stopped caring about whether I was improving or not and I started up again slowly, like maybe one or two sketches a day and then I eventually got the spirit back for it again.Β
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Yeah, I've been really having a bad art block now that I think about it. I draw things outside all the time and try things out of my comfort zone, which gets my hand moving, but when I try to apply those things I learned to things I like, I feel really stuck lately. I remember I was trying to follow sycra's advice and instead of being all over the place and beingΒ adequate at everything but instead learning one thing and really zone in on it and become a master at that and everything else will be easier. Thats why I did the dragon a day and drew gestures constantly. Maybe that was too lofty a goal? I don't know. But lately I've had almost zero motivation to draw. Instead of seeing others art as motivation to make more, I've seen it as, why even bother, they're already this good by the time I get a little good they'll be even better and all the places I want to work at are already full and are at places I don't want to move to.Β
Well, I guess I view myself as a crappy designer than an artist. I really don't have an expression or emotion to outlet, I really just want to make cool looking dragons. But I have absolutely no desire to be a concept artist or designer. Feng zhu quickly snuffed out that passion for me. lol As for motivation, I don't know either, what I like to draw I don't like looking at, what I like I'm terrible at drawing.Β
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I'm not really sure what to say, because it seems like there's a repercussion to everything you've tried D: All I can suggest is keep trying, it can't continue forever. The best way to get out of an art block is just to power through it, not wait around for it to leave but I know it's hard.Β
Oh haha I'm exactly the same! I have no incredibly meaning or expression behind my work, some of my work yes. But a lot of it I draw just because I like the subject matter, be it cute guys, awesome dragons or epic scenery. You might have to try researching different methods of learning art as it sounds to me you don't really have a way of properly learning.Β
Maybe this will help? Sycra does a lot of videos that face problems such as these, and ways you can overcome them so take a look at his videos.Β
www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0ufz7β¦ Β
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For me it was the opposite, when I try powering through an art block it just made me more frustrated emotionally and it made me hate art and tear up my sketches. I hope it comes to an end, but each time I tell myself I'm getting better, I find I take 1 step forward and 3 steps back.Β
You said it, I think a lot of it comes from I have no proper way of learning in art. I've seen that video in its entirety a few times, as well as his fallow up, the pointy chin series and his common face mistakes one and I really enjoyed them. His pointy chins series is what got me started in drawing a dragon a day. With drawing people I can see what to study and find reference to see what I'm doing wrong and use the iterativeΒ drawing technique, but with dragons I have no idea, I tried drawing a dragon a day for over a year until I just couldn't take it and quit and I still don't know where to improve nor how you and so many others do it and so well.Β
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I think the problem with drawing dragons though is that it's purely an imaginary character, it's difficult to affiliate it to an existing creature which means it's hard to get proper reference. You're forced to imagine much of what a dragon may or may not look like based on other concepts, which also may not be correct anatomically. I draw dragons alot as well, have been doing so for years. Much of how I draw dragons comes from the knowledge I gained from learning anatomy, and I've studied and drawn many different types of animals over the years including mostly human, big cats, dogs, horses and birds. All of these different anatomies have helped me piece together a working structure for which a dragon's body can be based upon. I don't draw them all the time though, it helps to draw variety and it keeps me fresh to drawing.Β
Maybe taking a break from them and studying other creatures instead. But not just drawing other creatures, study in depth what makes them tick, how their muscles piece together, how flesh attaches to bone, what makes them heavy and graceful. Study up on the skeleton of animals and humans alike, draw muscle groups, make sure your proportions are correct and what not. Hope this helps! xD
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*Nodding in agreement intensifies* Absolutely agree 100%.
I've taken breaks to draw other creatures all the time. the only creature I can't find info on is reptiles, I've drawn hundreds from photos but no one has talked about their anatomy anywhere. 
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You just have to keep trying. All Current animal anatomy is linked together in some way. If you've noticed, a human arm is very similar in shape and structure to a cat's leg, it's just proportioned differently to walk on all four legs. You have to be subtle when you mix them together. Make sure it works structurally, it looks like it would work in a real life situation. If it helps I can draw up some anatomy diagrams that have helped me when it comes to drawing dragons? I don't know if it would help as such because as you've said you've already intensely studied it. But perhaps seeing someone else and their technique might help you get some insight.Β
Either way if you can't figure out why your drawings aren't working then study artists instead of real life. Look at how other artists compose their images, how they use their own knowledge of animal and human anatomy to create imaginary creatures, relying on your own imagination for something doesn't exist without an extended realistic view of how it works will often work in disastrous ways.Β
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I guess I'll keep trying, thanks for all you help! 
Funny you say that, I was just recently doing that with how other artists draw eyes and it seemed to help. I don't know how I can do that with dragons yet though, since I feel I'd be stealing the design more than learning. I've drawn outside for years but still feel I didn't learn much, and drawing from other artists is harder than it looks. Hopefully they might help in the long run.Β
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Watching a load of tutorials and painting videos by very famous concept artists and painters on YouTube, a running theme is that they always say when you want to learn to paint or draw, keep references of your favourite artist. Learn how they work, how they paint and mimic it. Naturally you'll apply your own learning and knowledge to that method of working so don't worry about copying (unless you copy every inch, which isn't what you're supposed to do). Just find what you like in a drawing, and take that for your own work. It might seem like you're stealing but that's how you learn.Β
So next time you try drawing dragons, keep your favourite artist in mind and learn what you can from their process.Β
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I've tried that before with feng zhu, and thats when I found I never wanted to be a concept artist. XD Although good in theory, whenever I tried this method my expectations rose too much and I got really frustrated, I've tried to think like my favorite artist for years and every time I did I wanted to burn all my art. Theres still drawings in my insperatoin folder ( I call my depression folder XD.) that I have no idea what there process is and I can't ask them, and one artist I tried mimicing gave me bad habits, though it was silly of me trying to draw like kim jung gi. D: Studies have helped but trying to think like my favorite artist, unfortunately didn't.Β
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I've honestly run out of things to suggest xD There seems to be a set back for everything I say so I can only wish you the best for the future. Try and sort out your mindset towards art though as that seems to be your main wall against drawing owo
Otherwise good luck and have fun!
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I spy Toothless? :3 They're all so good and detailed
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Haha yeah xDΒ
Thank you >w<
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awe man QwQ i love your art so much. you put so much detail into everything! keep up the awesome work Β
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Thank you so much T_T <3
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