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Niko40 In reply to Orthodox64 [2011-01-13 10:50:14 +0000 UTC]

Naah... Just a wannabe. XD It's not Alienware logo to be precise nor there's anything from alienware in here. It's a self build system from the beginning. Just found that cool casing some 6-8 years ago... I've had it ever since though the internals have changed a couple of times already. XD The next case should be unique. I'm going to take some relatively new standard casing, rip it apart, model the external panels in blender and send those to to be 3D printed... Then patch the new external panels to the ripped off casing... Well that's pretty big project for me and expensive... But possible and I'm a dreamer.

Btw I updated my specs a bit. Ram and CPU.
You win me with the graphics card though... I prefer having processor power and memory because only those are used when rendering, processor for the speed and ram for the fur mostly. Except if I do GPU renders but that's really not a problem as it's still recorded frame by frame so the end results will be smooth... Hmm... Like this. [link] But I can't render fur with the GPU...

I want to be hardcore 3D modeller/animator/rigger some time so I try and put some dough to this too.

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Orthodox64 In reply to Niko40 [2011-01-13 17:09:57 +0000 UTC]

Wow, it really looks like an Alienware...that's an old case anyway. Your dream case sounds cool, hope I get to see it!

Yeah, for just work, all you really need is enough RAM and processor speed. But if you want to play the newest games in their full potential, you need a good graphics card. I just got the GTS 450 for Christmas, I used to have a 8400 GS. The worst graphics card money can buy. I hope to make enough to build a really powerful computer, loaded with all the programs I need. I hope that it'll last years into my career. Good luck with your goals!

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Niko40 In reply to Orthodox64 [2011-01-15 11:36:14 +0000 UTC]

Yeah. I hope to see it myself. XD And I play quite some games too. Right now (Right after I've typed this reply ) I'm playing StarCraft II for a while. I also have Crysis, Orange box, Settlers 7, Mass Effect 1/2, every sam&max and monkey island game from telltale and Fallout 3 with the expansion. I also have an Xbox 360 with Gears of War 2, Halo 3 and Alan Wake. Just to name a few.

Anyway, StarCraft II it is and then more 3D modelling.

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Niko40 In reply to Teranhalko [2010-06-10 22:52:48 +0000 UTC]

Tämän lähemmäs hyvää ja halpaa ei juurikaan pääse. Samaa budjettilaatua siis. Keskisillä oli myynnis tämä näyttö ja aika hyvällä tarjouksella sain mielestäni. 138€ jos oikein muistan.

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Niko40 In reply to CyperM [2010-05-23 14:49:49 +0000 UTC]

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CyperM In reply to Niko40 [2010-05-23 14:53:39 +0000 UTC]

you maybe be boring, right?

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Niko40 In reply to CyperM [2010-05-23 15:22:08 +0000 UTC]

Perhaps it's time to switch to another language?

Eipä juuri tällä hetkellä. Tosin ehän mä ikinä.

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CyperM In reply to Niko40 [2010-05-23 16:01:07 +0000 UTC]

niin niin ainahan sä teet niitä konetöitäs alkaasit vaa säki kokkaammaa oikee kunnolla ku tykkäät nii siitä hommasta

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Niko40 In reply to CyperM [2010-05-24 08:03:59 +0000 UTC]

LOL. En tykkää. Mutta mä haluan syödä hyvää ruokaa, joka myös näyttää hyvältä.

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Niko40 In reply to Cappies [2010-05-19 17:49:13 +0000 UTC]

Only downside is the money that goes in there. >_< But 3D modelling can be quite power hungry and I want to do it, so I kinda need that power too. Try rendering 3 million hair strands or sculpting with millions of vertices. My 8Gb of memory is getting too small. And about the CPU:s, more power->quicker renders->less time wasted on waiting->more time to make things or to adjust something. Lets just say that the quality would probably drop quite some if I had older pc... I want to have complex scenes, more fur and more detail in general and I want fast results. -> I need faster pc... So I plan to upgrade the CPU to 6 core one in this summer when the price drops somewhat below 300€ and memory to 16gb some time in the future when I don't have to pay near 800€ just for the memory. Can be kinda expensive hobby (I would prefer it was a job though) and I'm not exactly made of money either. Fortunately blender is free and fast.

Yeap. Tablet is the way to go with textures too. I still suck big in texturing but even still the tablet is much better than the mouse.

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Cappies In reply to Niko40 [2010-05-21 02:13:22 +0000 UTC]

wow! you seem to know alot about these kind of things. id say thats a good start if you are looking into making 3D modeling (is that what it is called?) a career. just a curiosity, do you make any free hand sketches? like, with just a pencil and paper? or are you strictly a computer guy?

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Niko40 In reply to Cappies [2010-05-22 00:06:07 +0000 UTC]

This stuff is quite self explanatory to me and should be for anyone in the industry.

Hmm... I think I clarify a bit. There are quite a few names for all the people around different parts of the production. 3D stuff in a film takes more than just one guy. A few examples, there's 3d artists, 3d modellers, animators, riggers (I've seen a few using this term, makes the skeleton for characters to move them around).

3d modelling is a short version of "making 3d models". 3d artist is a person who can do at least some of these: modelling, texturing, materials, rigging, animating, scene setup or post production. 3d modeller is a person making mainly 3d models, animator does mainly 3d animations.

3d designer is a person who makes 3d models of things that can go into a real physical production, like a car gearbox, those things are most certainly designed in a 3d app nowadays before they are made for real.

I mostly don't do anything on a paper anymore, just mindmaps. Text editing is easier on computer, so is drawing with a tablet (saves tons of paper with me... ). So pretty much everything I do is done on my pc. When a good idea hits me and pc is unavailable, I write it down to a paper and later on make a sketch model on blender or write it down into a text file. I write faster with a keyboard than with free hand and when I make a picture I don't think any of the objects as flat. I think in 3d and I have sometimes problems translating that to a plane surface. Or lets put it this way. When you draw, you think the shapes as lines and curves on the surface, when I make a 3d model, I think about the silhouette curves, how the surface looks when it's facing the camera (the parts inside of the silhouette), thickness of the different parts of the model compared to other parts. (like neck, arms, fingers, legs, torso...) and of course the topology and edgeflows that should mimic the muscles direction and wrinkles on the face (I suck at topology but I'm going to work on it). [link] Also 3d is all trial and error. No matter how good your plans are, you are always going to run into some problems.

This should clarify it a bit.

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Cappies In reply to Niko40 [2010-06-18 17:01:47 +0000 UTC]

wow, i am replying to this really late, because when i first got the message, i got distracted halfway through and forgot to read the whole thing,lol. but yes, this does clarify quite a bit the differences...it still goes well over my head tho, haha. I LOVE working with pencil and paper and vary rarely make fully digital art (like on photoshop or adobe illustrator) much less 3D art. there is always time to try new things tho, so when i DO get around to trying out 3D art, ill be sure to show it to you

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Niko40 In reply to Cappies [2010-06-18 20:18:46 +0000 UTC]

And I shall see.

Just a word of caution. I don't remember if I told you this already but 3D is quite more technical than it seems and there's multiple ways to do same things. It's not the same as learning something new. It's a whole new world with it's own strange language and upside down laws where moving a mountain is real easy and making a waiving piece of cloth is really hard. A bit like drawing but even more.

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Cappies In reply to Niko40 [2010-06-24 22:17:34 +0000 UTC]

Oh, i know it will be difficult and very different...it will probably be a long time before i give it a try at all (^_^')

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Niko40 In reply to Cappies [2010-06-25 15:58:26 +0000 UTC]

You don't need to be afraid of it, just prepared to do some learning and think a bit differently. When you have time of course.

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Niko40 In reply to Atimist [2010-05-13 08:26:54 +0000 UTC]

Hahaha... Yeap. A normal pc setup. One thing I like about macs is that there usually is a lot less wires. Bluetooth adapter and wireless mouse receiver are behind the paintings (because they have problems working from behind my pc. And yeah I got a wireless mouse too but that wired one is much more better). I think you have those integrated to you mac by default. XD The wires don't bother me so much but it would be nice to have a bit cleaner table.

I'll update it when I get the textures made. But So far my work has been rather slow. Busy elsewhere.

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Atimist In reply to Niko40 [2010-05-15 05:49:23 +0000 UTC]

It's all good man, we've all been slow

Oh I forgot to tell ya man, I might be getting into school this fall... and working towards a bachelors in Media Art and Animation... so I'll get to understand all this stuff X3 hahahah

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Niko40 In reply to Atimist [2010-05-15 22:17:36 +0000 UTC]

And on top of that I got a day job too. Well finally but even more it keeps me off my pc...

That's good for you. But I'm done with schools.

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Atimist In reply to Niko40 [2010-05-19 14:42:56 +0000 UTC]

a job?! What kinda job do you got?

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Niko40 In reply to Atimist [2010-05-19 21:35:24 +0000 UTC]

The same as last year. And a year before that. And hopefully in the next year if I'm not a 3D freelancer already. And perhaps even if I am... Too bad it only lasts for a summer.

I'm not sure I told you already... Well anyway. You really want to know... You just got me started and I'll give you the feeling. I work in an amusement park called PowerPark. Dark ride doesn't exist any more but this is quite new [link] The whole park has grown some from the last few years. Thunderbird is rated as the worlds 10:Th best wooden roller coaster. There are multiple themes from around the world and time. Some familiar to me and something I've never before seen myself. I've never seen a real palm tree before, least of all in Finland (too cold in winter). Almost everything is real, not much props anywhere. Stone wall usually are though but most of the time, if it looks like a roof is layed on top of a few 100 year old wooden pillars, it means that the roof really is supported by 100 year old wooden pillars. The amusement park is one of the cleanest in Finland, seeing trash anywhere is hard and seeing two at the same time is impossible. The outdoor side was compared to the insides of some of the most cleanest buildings in Finland.

There's also a gourmet restaurant in here and one of the Europe's best outdoor carting circuit with outdoor auditoriums. Some real F1 feel in it, just on the smaller scale . And it's a bit different than a computer game . Also Europe's largest indoor carting circuit is just next to that outdoor one. At the end of the summer when the amusement park side closes for the winter, the fireworks are just the most beautiful I've ever seen with my own eyes. [link] And the whole show grows bigger every year. Pirates of the Caribbean was not edited to the video.

My friends at work are nice and we are all practically just one big family, we laugh together and support each others. I couldn't hope for better friends to work with.

Being a 3D artist is my dream, but this sure is next to it.
I did this just last year. [link]

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Niko40 In reply to D-Ark-the-Random [2010-05-13 08:40:00 +0000 UTC]

It's Phenom II, was the fastest from AMD by the time I bought it... And was for 6 months. XD
To go faster, it would be Intel and I thought about it when I bought this. To get similar amount of processing power from intel it would have required about 100€ more and from there the price starts to really rise. So it was a great tradeoff between price and processing power.

I'm looking at the Phenom II X6 1090T now but I need to think about it more. Would do great for the rendering times.

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D-Ark-the-Random In reply to Niko40 [2010-05-13 20:38:11 +0000 UTC]

O_O HOLY SHIZNIT X6!?
=3= I need to get on my tech game lol.
True :3

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Niko40 In reply to D-Ark-the-Random [2010-05-14 08:25:24 +0000 UTC]

I didn't see them advertising it either. It just appeared on the market. XD Price isn't too impossible but I'm going to watch how it develops before I decide anything. Atm. It's about 320€ here... Quite some more than in the US. Still going for AMD in here is the cheaper solution.

Also it should work just fine with my current motherboard. As was mentioned in here [link] No need to upgrade fortunately... I rather don't change this one.

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D-Ark-the-Random In reply to Niko40 [2010-05-16 15:30:00 +0000 UTC]

:3 Wow man,only 380 Dollars!
o3o It keeps up with a few I7's
Goodjob AMD lol.Intel can't OC
their cpu's for crap,but when it comes
to AMD,they're temp's stay stable at
even 4 ghz on air.That's awesome.I'm
getting one,thank god I've got an AM3+
board.

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Niko40 In reply to D-Ark-the-Random [2010-05-16 16:40:30 +0000 UTC]

And even less than that. It should be something near 300USD on the stores there. Did someone do math like 300USD = 300€ and added some extra to that??? Because it certainly feels like it. Or did the shipping really cost 60USD per one hand sized box. I'll still look about how the price moves. My current one is sufficient for now though. But If I do more animations, extra power would be nice and I could build my own render machine from my old processor (+ the memory and motherboard). First machine for a possible render farm. Then a secure file storage would be nice. 4x2Tb discs in raid10 and have a render job handler in there too. A new 100/1000 switches to replace these 10/100 ones and a new bike and 16Gb of memory would be really great (would do miracles to my fur renders or at least make it a lot more simpler to do). And then perhaps a 3D mouse that has around 30 buttons, can move in all 3 axes at the same time and can display your emails... Yeah, really... [link]

Or perhaps I'll just buy the bike... That I really do need. The rest is just extra and I really need to think about how much I can spend on this. If the processor drops below 290€ in here though, I'll definitely buy it.

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D-Ark-the-Random In reply to Niko40 [2010-05-16 16:57:27 +0000 UTC]

Lol,:3 it's 306 dollars.
someone's been plotting lol.
Those are pretty nice specs also.

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Niko40 In reply to D-Ark-the-Random [2010-05-17 22:36:41 +0000 UTC]

Yeap... I'm quite sure that it will drop quite some though.

But this seems to be a reeeal tough question... AMD or Intel, similar processing power but you could buy 3 of these by the price of 1 from Intel.

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