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chibiuverworld [2017-08-18 23:51:01 +0000 UTC]
Speaking of "true love".
It really ticks me off when people say that Twilight is heartwarming.
To me it mocks heartwarming material. There's nothing heartwarming about it.
There's a ton of much better movies with heartwarming romance like Wall-E, Up, Your Name, Spirited Away, the majority of the Disney movies, you name it.
Also, I think that Twilight mocks depression and suicide victims because Bella attempted suicide over getting dumped which I find overreacting.
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chibiuverworld [2017-08-18 21:53:18 +0000 UTC]
Excellente
Speaking of Romeo and Juliet, it ticks me off when so many people misinterpret it to be a romance when it's really a tragedy. Shakespeare didn't intend to make it a romance, he intended to make it a tragedy. Sadly, it's popularly misinterpreted to be a romance because Romeo and Juliet are archetypal lover characters which apparently threw people off.
If Meyer likens Edward and Bella to be Romeo and Juliet then shouldn't she have killed them off in the end just like how Shakespeare did with Romeo and Juliet?
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Veidara [2016-10-24 21:58:05 +0000 UTC]
I didn't realize it back when I first read the books in 2009 but I realized a couple of years later that Bella is a complete sue
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4eyes0soul [2016-08-04 20:15:09 +0000 UTC]
Excellent work.
I thought of something, tell me what you think: Twilight's plot makes sense if Stephanie Meyer thinks Romeo and Juliet is a romance. If that's what she thinks true love is, then that translates to Twilight and explains why it's so screwed up.
It's like if someone who thought Citizen Kane was about how wealth is all that matters wrote a rags-to-riches story.
Again, I really think you did a great job on this essay.
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RJEscope [2016-06-12 20:03:33 +0000 UTC]
Noble Twihater, I salute you!
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Girl-Time-2015 [2016-01-26 16:30:06 +0000 UTC]
Dracula from Hotel Transylvania would make a better opponent for Harry than Edward.
That said, I don't understand why YA paranormal romance has to be degrading into one-dimwnsional wish fulfillment drivel? Can't we have something more unique like say, a girl falls in love with a guy who is secretly prince of the unicorns or something like that?
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Phapha332 [2015-10-02 10:16:23 +0000 UTC]
Stephanie Meyer is just being stupid when she said that..
dare I say the terrible name
Edsparkle Cullen could kill glorious Harry Potter in what? 0.16 seconds? Excuse me? What could Edsparkle do? Sparkle at Harry?
Avada Kedavra.
Edward needs freaking weapons. Harry has a WAND.
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Scorpionspear77 In reply to Phapha332 [2016-05-09 06:40:59 +0000 UTC]
Does Avada Kedavra work on the undead? I think Harry would need a combo of Sectumsempra and Incendio. Either way, Harry beats Edward in every category imaginable.
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Phapha332 [2015-10-02 10:04:17 +0000 UTC]
I'm just saying I think you made an error when you said Twilight promoted Feminism... wans't it Anti- Feminism...?
Sorry I'm just curious.
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Phapha332 In reply to notbecca [2015-10-03 01:27:19 +0000 UTC]
yup glad u fixed it!
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catbug-meow-JELLY [2015-07-25 20:37:01 +0000 UTC]
that offending, its a great book series...
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chibiuverworld In reply to catbug-meow-JELLY [2018-02-05 23:27:08 +0000 UTC]
it's just a book series...
books are subjective so opinions cannot be right or wrong.
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notbecca In reply to catbug-meow-JELLY [2015-07-27 02:25:18 +0000 UTC]
the problem is you're taking the criticism of a book series personally.
also no it's objectively not a good series. You can like it, that's fine, but you should understand the damaging effects it has
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Sleepstar [2014-12-06 19:33:28 +0000 UTC]
Interesting rant. I knew that The Twilight Saga was rubbish, and what Smeyer said that "Edward Cullen could kill Harry Potter in 0.16 seconds" is just plain ridiculous. If I become a successful writer and someone asks me who would win in a fight, one of my characters or Harry Potter, I would give a honest answer. What Smeyer said about other "romance novels" is disgusting. I may not be keen on romance novels but the characters in them are way more famous and interesting than Bella and Edward.
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CommnderShepard117 [2014-11-16 02:52:58 +0000 UTC]
If we get rid of Twilight, 50 Shades of Grey, Stephenie Meyer, and E. L. James, the world would have less stupid people!
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One-Concerned [2014-08-16 20:13:16 +0000 UTC]
Do you want it out of your life?
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notbecca In reply to One-Concerned [2014-08-17 00:50:17 +0000 UTC]
Well I feel like the world would not be worse off if it was never created considering how it fetishized emotional abuse.
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One-Concerned In reply to notbecca [2014-08-17 18:33:34 +0000 UTC]
I have a certain philosophy about these things: If you don't talk about it, then people won't remember it; and if people don't remember it, then it'll die. Yet others' reviews and rants give me the impression that my philosophy is dead-wrong. But how? Why?
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notbecca In reply to One-Concerned [2014-08-17 19:51:40 +0000 UTC]
Well the thing is people were only talking up the GOOD aspects of the book, which... I mean, I don't see any, I read it and it was p mediocre, but if people don't voice their criticisms, people won't THINK about it. Things can and do get popular for being bad, like The Room, but they're also then not taken seriously as a result. If Twilight is billed unironically as a romance, then people won't even think to question it even though Edward's behavior is HIGHLY unhealthy. Like, if you don't understand that emotional abuse is a real thing, you wouldn't recognize it if you saw it, either in a book or in your own relationship. So if we spread information it'll help people understand their own situations better and make healthy choices in their lives.
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notbecca In reply to One-Concerned [2014-08-17 23:09:46 +0000 UTC]
No, it's not, if people don't talk about something it'll fall through the cracks. But once something is big it's hard to then squash it down. If you're saying "if you don't like a popular thing don't complain about it and it'll go away" then yes, that would be wrong. If something so problematic gets big the criticisms must get just as big so people understand just what is wrong with it. But if it's something harmless like... selfies, idk, then it doesn't need to be critiqued to death just cuz a few dudebros are tired of seeing them.
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One-Concerned In reply to notbecca [2014-08-25 03:58:35 +0000 UTC]
Hmmm...one more thought:
"This honestly makes me feel like what I'm doing is completely in vain. Yeah, I know I'm not going to break through the thick skulls of people...but, it's the kind of moment that makes you realize that I've been shouting at a hurricane this whole time. I can yell, and scream, as loud as possible, and it won't make a f***ing difference...gonna keep making these atrocities, and keep making them worse, and considering that this is the sh** that people apparently WANT to see, who am I to complain? You'd think something would change by now, but, it's impossible. It's impossible, to change anything."
-- The Mysterious Mr. Enter, Breadwinners
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PrincessPeach20 [2014-06-26 01:47:11 +0000 UTC]
I read this book, and I couldn't get through ten pages. I still don't know why there are fans of this book series, it's the WORST book I've ever read (No offence to anybody who likes it). (Surprising because, I like books)
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FireSprinklez [2014-04-01 12:35:25 +0000 UTC]
Bro, you didn't need the full on 1,000+ words to prove your theory. All you have to say is, "This story is so cliché and cheesy, that imagination doesn't even exist in the book."
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notbecca In reply to FireSprinklez [2014-04-01 20:44:13 +0000 UTC]
Oh, but it's very important to have reasons to back your opinions up! Otherwise you will look very foolish. Plus I just like writing analysis'. Back in high school I loved analytical literature and in college I have a few analysis classes.
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FireSprinklez In reply to notbecca [2014-04-02 00:00:56 +0000 UTC]
I know. I rant on like that. Buy if you're dead serious, then you can just look at them in the eyes and shoot the best death glare. Otherwise, no.
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Creativesm75 [2014-02-23 17:24:40 +0000 UTC]
i love this. I Need this after seeing an educational SATS book in a bookstore about twilight, argh.
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SeptembersBadSeed [2014-02-17 00:00:12 +0000 UTC]
I've read the whole thing (your deviation) and I simply loved it , I can't believe I've liked twilight four years ago , I realized it was really bad three years ago more or less but this analysis helped me A LOT god you're right about everything you've said .
And god , I swear the only "vampire action" I've got from this saga was when Rosalie murdered her molester in somehow "true vampire fashion" Finally a vampire used its powers for deserved revenge.
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AnikiOtaku [2014-01-21 17:41:58 +0000 UTC]
Blah I read the first book and hated it.
Which Twilight has the same theme like the anime Vampire Knight same principal and everything.
Two guys fighting over a girl who is useless and ditzy. Evil perverted lecherous evil villain family member. (incestual pairings)
The works ....it's sad.
Yea not much to the imagination
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chibiuverworld In reply to AnikiOtaku [2018-02-06 00:09:28 +0000 UTC]
I personally love Vampire Knight and I think it's waaaay better than Twilight. I call it Twilight for people who hate Twilight. Of course, Vampire Knight is not for everybody because all works of fiction are subjective.
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StylishCat100 In reply to AnikiOtaku [2015-05-14 17:02:12 +0000 UTC]
Fun fact: the first volume of Vampire Knight has been published a few months before Twilight. Coincidence? I don't think so.
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ABluePeacock [2014-01-02 19:02:47 +0000 UTC]
Hear, hear!
I totally agree with everything you said!
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cherudim90 [2013-09-13 01:57:16 +0000 UTC]
I disagree with the speech though. I'd've recognized it. I probably would have been the only one in my school who would have though, and I'd go "Ok.... where'd you pick that up from?" I read it hoping for something the likes of Buffy & Angel & instead I got..... god I don't even know what to call it.
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cherudim90 [2013-09-13 01:42:44 +0000 UTC]
All of this is true.
I'm a reader. In eighth grade, I was looking for new material. My cousin gave me the Twilight series. Never heard of it before, but she was practically spasming over it. I read the books. Once. Then I read them, like, three more times so she couldn't say I was being picky or something. I found nothing distinguishing about Bella in any way, other than her apparent lack of common sense and the clumsiness.
Especially in New Moon.The love of your life left you. The same thing happened to your father when your mother left him you know.
And don't get me started on the sparkle thing. Edward drove me insane in Eclipse. Bella spent, oh.... weeks with Jacob after finding out about the whole wolf thing. Not a scratch on her. He was her best friend who believed he was in love with her. He would never try to, same as Edward.
And could there be any less depth to the other vampires? Alice got on my nerves after a while. A hundred or so years of life and you can't figure out better ways to spend your time than shopping? Really?
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animedisneyluver809 [2013-08-24 23:52:08 +0000 UTC]
The only chars I like are Esme and Carlisle. Something about Eddie+Bella turns me off.
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XTimeLordessX [2013-07-29 17:21:11 +0000 UTC]
YOU ARE MY GOD!!!
You are fantastic, this was brilliant, absolutely brilliant!!!
You got everything I thought about it added so much more. Fantastic, I'm in a amazing mood now!!
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KaijuAlpha1point0 [2013-07-01 12:07:44 +0000 UTC]
One of my ideas for a Vampire novel was called "The Nocturnal Wars". Basically, the plot revolves around a war between two groups of vampires, the Evolved which are vampires who have adapted in order to survive (instead of burning in the sun they suffer from rapid heat strokes and they keep their blood drinking to a minimum), and the Primals, stereotypical vampires (well, they are incinerated when they're exposed to sunlight, they have to have blood 24/7 and they can transform into bat humanoids) led by Dracula. In the middle of all this, there's a reporter who stumbles upon this war and the Knights Templar led by the descendant of Van Helsing.
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GuineaGirl106 [2013-06-09 02:17:13 +0000 UTC]
i'e necer read Twilight, never plan too- ever. I have (regretfully) seen the movies.
I found this suprisingly helpful. I'm a budding writer and this has shown me exactly what not to do while writing
Thanks!
and btw- im sorry but in .16 seconds harry potter could kill over half of the cullen family
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VioletDeathblood [2013-06-02 00:12:09 +0000 UTC]
Lol just found out what chagrin means ya know that word smeyer is always using it means emberrasment
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NaminexUtau [2013-06-01 14:34:53 +0000 UTC]
I decided to read one random chapter after reading this. I couldn't even make it to the second page without wanting to throw up *gags*
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AndytheB-Artist [2013-05-10 21:12:44 +0000 UTC]
At some point, you realize there's a great idea here. A man fighting his own natural instinct to kill others. A teenage girl who's fallen in love with a known bad boy and faces the very real possibility of death if she follows her heart. A childhood friend to that girl who's thinking about being more than just a friend. I mean, I've seen at least one serious fanfiction rewrite of this concept [link] and to that I say "Rewrite it already, you can make a good story out of that".
Too bad there's all the things you said that bring this concept down into the ground.
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