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Description And then I felt like taking photos of bones. (And putting them together in the messiest layout in a while.)

Anyway. If you ever come across a sudden need to draw a skull of a small canine, feel free to reference this. I hereby give you permission to reference, trace or even copy stuff from this particular ref. If it helps you, it has done what it was made to do. Have fun!

Featuring all my current canines.

*Sigh* Someday I dream I could buy a replica wolf skull to add to the collection. I'm just really bad at saving up for one. If only there wasn't so many awesome people offering commissions every time I manage to get some money...

(Also, the dog needs a name. To keep with the main theme of my skulls, it should be a name from any of Shakespeare's plays, and if possible, I'd like the name to belong to an old character. The skull is old, and I'd love to keep the Grandpa-feel to it. Suggestions welcome.)
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Comments: 240

RancorousNeophyte [2012-10-12 18:54:11 +0000 UTC]

awesome!

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Marraw01 [2012-07-13 00:55:18 +0000 UTC]

This is useful, thanks

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FennecFyre [2012-05-29 23:54:47 +0000 UTC]

I vote for Capulet or Montague. The old ones, not Droneo or Foolliet (Ohoho, I'm so clever.) Where do you get your skulls, btw?

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M0CKERY [2012-05-17 21:23:28 +0000 UTC]

koirakallo on selvΓ€sti kuningas Lear

*hipeltÀÀ sitÀ*
...
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Wolfy-MagicMuffin [2012-03-29 19:07:14 +0000 UTC]

Where can you get these replica's? I've always wanted a few for studying anatomy. =]

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Falcolf [2012-03-22 04:02:24 +0000 UTC]

Haha awesome, I love how you use the same inking pens as me fantastic reference!

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Eksheed [2012-03-21 03:53:27 +0000 UTC]

I have a pair of skulls from my stepdads hunting days- a small wolf skull and a young brown bear skull. Both were problem animals in the area that they ended up having to shoot.

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flame-of-phoenix [2012-03-20 18:16:32 +0000 UTC]

I love your skulls <3 and it was a great idea to compare them (:
And I also "collect" skulls, have a fox skull and one of a possum (they have huge teeth o.O)

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Lieju [2012-03-19 21:12:28 +0000 UTC]

Mielenkiintoista.

Tuo supikoiran leuka on jykevΓ€mpi kuin oletin...

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Skylarkien [2012-03-19 19:10:51 +0000 UTC]

Antipholus is from A comedy of Errors

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Amagire [2012-03-16 19:10:11 +0000 UTC]

Neat to see a side-by-side comparison! Also, I second the nomination of Banquo as a name for the dog skull. (Though Falstaff would also be good.)

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EmeraldFoxSeamstress [2012-03-15 16:00:07 +0000 UTC]

Impressive!

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celdragon [2012-03-14 21:19:21 +0000 UTC]

thank you for showing the difference with the skulls, really like pics like this
good reference for other pics

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HibikiDuskstar [2012-03-14 18:18:57 +0000 UTC]

YOU

are funny

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virtuousbass [2012-03-14 11:28:08 +0000 UTC]

"alas poor Yoric I knew him well"

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PsykotikDragon [2012-03-14 04:12:57 +0000 UTC]

very informative. this could be quite useful for canine-styled headshapes for my dragons XD

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alonawolf [2012-03-14 03:12:53 +0000 UTC]

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Zerox-Z21 [2012-03-13 23:17:55 +0000 UTC]

Would be interesting to know breed as dogs vary so much, but alas. At least not an overly deformed breed, good to see.
Why a replica rather than the real deal? Preferable from my point of view. Unless more expensive/hard to find, but talking to my uni lecturers about all the ones they had in the lab, apparently replicas are pretty similar in price to the real things. Also, even good replicas miss out the fine details, like the fine bone inside the snout from the nostril area.
I have a nice collection myself of various bits. Annoyingly including a carrion crow and rook skulls I lost the labels from. Virtually identical, can't tell the difference now.
Ebay's real good for this kind of thing if that's an option for you.

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Paperiapina In reply to Zerox-Z21 [2012-03-14 08:53:12 +0000 UTC]

Yeah. It could be some sort of spaniel, but I can't say for sure.

With the wolf replica it's for practical reasons. I live in Finland, which is pretty small country. The entire wolf population in this country is small, less than two hundred individuals and hunting them is strictly regulated so it's hard to find their bones sold within Finland. I can't buy them from abroad since wolf is listed on CITES, which means buying them from abroad is illegal, unless I acquire exporting AND importing licenses from both Finland and the country of origin, and the licenses can cost more then the skull itself. Personally, I would prefer the real deal, but my chances are rather low.

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Zerox-Z21 In reply to Paperiapina [2012-03-14 15:17:13 +0000 UTC]

Oh, CITES covering import/export. Hadn't occurred to me for wolves. Makes sense though.
At least you have what you have. I mean, tbh, the skulls of wolves and dogs are pretty similar, heck compare yours to the fox. I know in practice it's nice to have the actual thing, but as a reference tool or otherwise for the sake of observing anatomy, there's not anything in a wolf skull that isn't in what you've got. Perhaps look for more wolf-like dog skulls if they're available? They are closely related after all.
Nonetheless, if it's something you want, keep an eye out for within country sales. Surely you could find a specialist shop or seller? Tends to be the way things work, the shop deals with the costs of licensing and so imports all these items, which are then easier to buy for the local population. Not sure if saying this is helpful though
Going the replica route, be sure to go for decent quality though, because the thing they miss most is the extra fine details, so you're gonna want to keep an eye out for that.

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Thorunn [2012-03-13 21:56:05 +0000 UTC]

Nice collection!
I like the names Tybalt and Escalus from Romeo and Juliet, they could fit.. or Friar Lawrence since he is older

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Indianimations [2012-03-13 20:18:58 +0000 UTC]

Lol! That's so funny! Great job! Very useful!

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Luniwenor [2012-03-13 19:49:17 +0000 UTC]

did the racoon got a shot in its head? i mean, the hole in the frontalis/parietalis seam is quite much... round lol

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Paperiapina In reply to Luniwenor [2012-03-14 08:06:47 +0000 UTC]

Actually the raccoon dog was probably killed by a bigger animal, maybe a wolf. The whole back of the skull is completely shattered, yet the skin on it was intact, and even the muscles were only bruised. Both of his shoulder blades were pierced too, there was holes in both, yet the holes were only found after we had got him cleaned, there was no holes on the skin or muscles. That's pretty darn neat fanghole.

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Luniwenor In reply to Luniwenor [2012-03-13 19:50:41 +0000 UTC]

or i should say, parietalis/interparietalis lol my bad

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HuntressLight [2012-03-13 19:19:23 +0000 UTC]

Awesome post. I love the breakdown of all the parts and the comparison shots. And lots of angles! ILU <3

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Fyrrea [2012-03-13 18:59:00 +0000 UTC]

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Little-Pastry [2012-03-13 18:54:43 +0000 UTC]

what breed is the dog skull from?

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MrWitchblade [2012-03-13 18:54:18 +0000 UTC]

Always good to have a thingy

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IsaRat [2012-03-13 18:33:46 +0000 UTC]

Boooooing! you kills me

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Marszenka [2012-03-13 17:39:49 +0000 UTC]

Lear, Polonius, Prospero, Friar Laurence, Leontes.

Very interesting reference! Thank you!

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KeroberosFang [2012-03-13 17:23:07 +0000 UTC]

This is a great reference tool! Thank you so much for putting the time into this!
Has anyone suggested Falstaff yet? Whenever I think of an old Shakespeare character, I think of him. :3

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haruko-doe [2012-03-13 16:59:32 +0000 UTC]

That's really interesting. I love dogs and their cousins!

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Eye-X-catcher [2012-03-13 16:50:09 +0000 UTC]

I love you for this stuff, Thanks

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Icy-Tempest [2012-03-13 16:49:42 +0000 UTC]

How about Julius for Granpa like from Shakespears Julius Caesar

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YiorYeosa [2012-03-13 16:42:50 +0000 UTC]

Oh! Poor Fido! I knew him well Milan.

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Nonparellis [2012-03-13 16:31:19 +0000 UTC]

Apemantus? [link] , Nestor? [link] (elderly Greek leader in Troilus and Cressida.)

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Moonafleet [2012-03-13 16:08:08 +0000 UTC]

Ah, this is so awesome! I only have a small raccoon skull, myself. Complete teeth, but sadly the jaw is missing...I'll have to compare it to these, though! Thanks for this!

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Rhissanna [2012-03-13 15:57:56 +0000 UTC]

So, it's not just me. Foxes are, indeed, the elf version of dogs!

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christyrenee [2012-03-13 15:18:32 +0000 UTC]

This is so cool! Very interesting and informative. Thanks for posting it!

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Ara-Tun [2012-03-13 14:55:53 +0000 UTC]

Wow, I had no idea raccoon dogs were so robust! They look like they have the largest lamboidal crest proportionate to their bodies of any canid skull I have thus far seen. I'm curious if the raccoon dogs' auditory bullae are larger or smaller than the red foxes - it's a little hard to tell. Also, that dog skull is amazingly neotenic in appearance! I keep forgetting that, as the dog skull at my university's collection is probably a Shepherd skull, and so looks more like the wolf skull (still pretty easy to tell apart, though). A lovely comparison!

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CalliScribbles [2012-03-13 14:34:59 +0000 UTC]

Mmm... how about Lear? (Because the dog was a broken old man...)

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Akayama [2012-03-13 14:06:49 +0000 UTC]

Polonius was an old character, no? I remember that he was foolish. It's also a fun name to say.

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ElohiAdanvdo [2012-03-13 13:59:56 +0000 UTC]

Try BoneClones.Com. They have a bunch of amazing replica skulls, the Siberian Wolf Skull BC-004
is worth $190.00. They also have a Dire Wolf Skull Tarpit Finish BC-020T for $225.00 and a Dire Wolf Skull Antique Finish BC-020A for $205.00. Visit their site, they have a lot. :3

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Reigndrac [2012-03-13 13:58:28 +0000 UTC]

Where do people get these skulls?

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Rayquin [2012-03-13 13:58:05 +0000 UTC]

dafuq did i just read

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zefok [2012-03-13 13:23:21 +0000 UTC]

saifi hottest ever !! [link]

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minibubble [2012-03-13 13:22:22 +0000 UTC]

What about Polonius since you already have Hamlet and Yoric(k), keeps it all in the same play! and Polonius was old (:

Also, you really know your skulls! Very neat to see them explained so nicely~

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Crimsonbluewolf [2012-03-13 12:30:21 +0000 UTC]

That was an interesting read.... Is it weird that the way you wrote that made me excited to read the next panel?

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chloristine [2012-03-13 09:41:56 +0000 UTC]

You should be a teacher... I learned allot!

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