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InkyMcInkerson [2014-03-05 08:03:00 +0000 UTC]
...Coach didn't really have all the screentime, though? Unlike Russell/Rob/Phillip etc where it's just them getting all the confessionals and airtime, we got to know other characters through their interactions with Coach and it rose said characters immensely. Without Tyson/Brendan/Erinn constantly smack-talking Coach he's actually pretty low-visibility compared to the three aforementioned camerawhores.
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pgcool In reply to InkyMcInkerson [2014-03-06 04:08:28 +0000 UTC]
Compared to those three, Coach is definitely not as bad. But still, it felt like pretty much everything this season surrounded around Coach, and it got old pretty fast. The whole "changing the game" thing was kind of stupid, because he pretty much played the same as every single person that played before him... target the people who target you.
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InkyMcInkerson In reply to pgcool [2014-03-06 07:27:05 +0000 UTC]
That's what makes him Coach though - he makes all these fantastical analogies, calls his alliance mates by these fantastical names and he thinks he's above the whole aspect of the game that makes it Survivor. But he's not. He's on the exact same level as everyone else and he acts like he's above it all, and it's simultaneously fascinating and cringeworthy to watch him, especially in his later seasons, think he can promise everyone the exact same deal and not have to break any of his promises. I mean from the sounds of it in South Pacific he promised John and Edna and Brandon and Rick and Ozzy and Albert and Sophie Final Three deals yet he couldn't deliver on the majority of them and had to break a shitload of promises to get to Final Three, yet he kept on acting like he'd played an honourable game and hadn't' broken any promises. It's present in all of his seasons but most prominently in his next two.
And that's on top of his character - he's the "one-up" guy. He always has to be better than everyone somehow. Whether it's trying to convince Brendan he invented the art of Samurai, telling Jeff that he made sure his tribe had all the right supplies at the start of the game because he directed them with his eyes, pointlessly saying that he's thrown balls underhand at tiles before, making sure he has the worst possible Exile experience possible so it minimizes everyone else's experience, or delaying TC just so he can read a poem before he's voted out. And it continued in post show interviews, where he claimed he lost a quarter of his body weight while he was playing Survivor and stressed that it was more body weight lost than anyone else in Survivor history. Hell it's even present in South Pacific where he sees Brandon is religious and then basically turns himself into the most devout Fundamentalist in Survivor history just so he can show-up Brandon. And says that he lost a challenge for his tribe because nobody would listen to him. It's all just Coach.
I get that there is room to hate him because of these reasons and it's pretty reasonable since there are a million different ways to look at Survivor (believe me I know plenty of people that do hate him for the reasons you've stated, and others for different reasons altogether like religion and stuff) but I think the only reason one can hate Coach is if you take him seriously. Remove that from your life, see him as the harmless joke that he is and you'll ultimately get Coach.
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pgcool In reply to InkyMcInkerson [2014-03-07 00:18:57 +0000 UTC]
Haha reading through this whole thing and the entire time I'm pretty much just saying "That's why I hate him... that's why I hate him". I guess there are 2 ways to look at him, and I took Coach seriously because the way he comes across, he seems to want to be taken seriously. Like... in my eyes it doesn't seem like he was joking around at all. All those moments you talked about, it seemed like actual Coach, and how Coach would be in real life. I don't think he's worst than Russell or Rob, but he's pretty high on my least favorite Survivors list. Clearly we see 2 different things in him lol
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InkyMcInkerson In reply to pgcool [2014-03-14 02:51:06 +0000 UTC]
He's not joking around at all, that's what makes him so funny - he's dead set serious in basically everything he does. You just gotta see the humour in a guy who goes around making medieval analogies and tries to go to the Final 2 with literally everyone in the cast and still thinks he's above the game and invented a new honourable way of playing Survivor.
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