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Description With the infamous "Triebold caenagnathid" soon being described and probably named Now it is.

Back then I thought I give it another try, as i didn't like my previous attempt at all. Matt Lamanna and colleagues will publish it probably within the course of this year, while it's been well-known to dinosaur enthusiasts for quite a time. Interesting features noted in the SVP abstract include the last three caudal verts being "greatly modified" but not quite fused into a fake pygostyle/"caudostyle", so I gave this guy a fairly impressive tail fan (even more impressive for an animal tipping the scales at >3 m without it). I originally wanted to depict the tail being further tilted upwards/forwards, as oviraptorosaur tails were surprisingly mobile, but that fell victim to balance-related and spatial (speaking in terms of the size of the paper sheet) issues. The long, thin feathers sprouting from the pelvic area are inspired by some older work made by Dan Bensen . No idea what they're properly called in modern birds.

Crouched into a low-to-the-ground posture, it's probably searching for something tasty-looking. I imagine caenagnathids like this one as generalist omnivores.

In fact, it's probably the single dinosaur I've drawn most often without ever being satisfied. I'm still not quite happy with it, but this attempt of mine comes closest.

The skeletal reconstruction I used was made by Scott Hartman .
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Comments: 47

Boreonykus [2016-07-02 10:09:37 +0000 UTC]

Awesome work!!
Do you do these by hand?

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pilsator In reply to Boreonykus [2016-07-04 16:09:03 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much! If "by hand" means that I draw them with a pencil on a sheet of paper, yes; if you mean that I don't use any published references, no.

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Boreonykus In reply to pilsator [2016-07-17 23:41:26 +0000 UTC]

Yes I meant pencil and paper. There are few of us who use pencils instead of computers. Great work anyway, keep it up!!

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pilsator In reply to Boreonykus [2016-07-21 13:56:58 +0000 UTC]

Yes, there are fewer and fewer "analog" paleoartists. I actually planned to learn my way into PhotoShop (hell, only reason I bought 16 gigs of RAM for my computer back in the day), but you see where that went. And thank you, always appreciated!

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Elperdido1965 [2014-03-29 11:06:43 +0000 UTC]

tolles Artwork kommt gleich zu meinen Vorlagen

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pilsator In reply to Elperdido1965 [2014-04-02 16:28:08 +0000 UTC]

Sehr bedankt

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Pachyornis [2014-03-25 11:49:48 +0000 UTC]

Sehr hübsch und kreativ, wie immer!

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pilsator In reply to Pachyornis [2014-03-25 14:58:06 +0000 UTC]

Danke! Ärger mich nen bisschen über das press release-Artwork. Von jemensch gemalt wer weit mehr Ahnung von Malen hat als ich, aber das Ding hier ist dem von reinem stumpfen Anatomiebegreifen her einfach überlegen.

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Pachyornis In reply to pilsator [2014-03-25 21:37:58 +0000 UTC]

Ja, das ist doch meistens so; publikumsträchtiger sind eher die effekthascherischen Bilder als die nüchteren, realistischen. Deshalb sind wohl auch Luis Rey's Arbeiten so populär, dessen Stil mir im Übrigen überhaupt nicht gefällt. 
BTW, "jemensch"? lol  

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pilsator In reply to Pachyornis [2014-03-25 22:08:07 +0000 UTC]

Das Ding is aber echt mies und auch in keiner Weise effekthascherisch.

Rey find ich per se nicht schlecht, nur kann Rey das nicht was du oder ich bspw. können, und zumindest ich kann nich was Rey kann.

"jemensch" - keine Ahnung, versuch's mir anzugewöhnen.

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yoult [2014-03-20 11:27:52 +0000 UTC]

Einen sehr schönen Namen hat das Tierchen endlich bekommen.

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pilsator In reply to yoult [2014-03-25 08:03:19 +0000 UTC]

Is schon nich schlecht, obwohl ich das jetz nich so feier wie manch andere_r.

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Dino-Mario [2012-11-22 03:17:13 +0000 UTC]

Gorgeous work!!!

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pilsator In reply to Dino-Mario [2012-11-22 13:45:14 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, man!

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JWArtwork [2012-07-22 14:44:09 +0000 UTC]

Beautiful! That must have been hell of a job with all those feathers!

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pilsator In reply to JWArtwork [2012-07-22 15:32:53 +0000 UTC]

Thanks a lot! I don't take that long drawing those, and tend to think that I could improve by being less lazy and more scrupulous with detailing them once they look reasonably "done".

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JWArtwork In reply to pilsator [2012-07-24 21:03:39 +0000 UTC]

Well, I think they look great already! Certainly not something I could do!

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MrAverage101 [2012-05-31 03:08:54 +0000 UTC]

FRENCH THE LLAMA THAT'S AWESOME

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pilsator In reply to MrAverage101 [2012-06-06 01:38:18 +0000 UTC]

Uhm ... thanks, I guess

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ZEGH8578 [2012-05-28 23:25:33 +0000 UTC]

*treating Iguanodon as a very inclusive _genus_, [man i hate typos that completely remove the meaning of my statement =

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ZEGH8578 [2012-05-28 18:15:12 +0000 UTC]

Heh, I don't have a scanner here, I will probably upload them sometime this week.
The main problem, I think, with Paul's lumping actions, isn't that they are necesarily "totally wrong" (I happen to agree with most of them) but it's that he isn't a professional paleontologist, and therefore he has no duty to prove that his decision is correct. Personally, I find the opposite to be more problematic - to create new genera for everything new - such as Linheraptor and Tsaagan, which in my humble and unprofessional opinion is nothing but Velociraptor, but two distinct species. I really don't know why these warranted entirely new genus names, considering Leopards and Tigers belong to the same genus, among extant animals. Sometimes I suspect research becomes entirely too emotional, people get posessive of their finds, and their decisions. I've seen grown men "pull rank" on each others, in paleontological debate, regardless of good points made. This is one of the reasons I'm a bit reluctant to flaunt my agreement to a controversial decision

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pilsator In reply to ZEGH8578 [2012-05-28 23:06:47 +0000 UTC]

Honestly, I'm glad people have stopped pretending genera are countable, real things. Everything's prone to paraphyly and reshuffling. While I agree that GSP's lumping standard was a nice way to make non-avian dino taxonomy "comparable" with, say, mammalian, it was a confusing move, and ultimately a matter of semantics while pretending it's more than semantics.

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ZEGH8578 In reply to pilsator [2012-05-28 23:23:32 +0000 UTC]

I agree, but the use of genera should serve a purpose, and I think utilizing genera "to their fullest extent" is a lot more orderly, than treating a genus as if its a species. Another example is all the Iguanodon split up. I dont see any real reason why. For years we were totally fine treating Iguanodon as a very inclusive species - as you say, in mammalian biology we have tons of these inclusive sorts, such as Felis and Canis. But once Iguanodon has been split, people react as if its a testable new discovery, like discovering a new metal or a new planet - "We used to believe it was Iguanodon, but we turned out to be wrong, thanks to new research." - while, as you say - it really comes down to semantics, and at the end of the day, it only created a whole new lot of names to take care of. Ah well, it's not a major problem anyway, since anyone is "free" to re-merge them again

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pilsator In reply to ZEGH8578 [2012-05-29 00:14:04 +0000 UTC]

Most people agree a genus - if it does include more than one species - should be monophyletic, i.e. a clade. Keeping Iguanodon intact while following this rationale would leave us with sail-backed Iguanodon nigeriensis, deep-nosed Iguanodon kurzanovi, tiny pseudo-cursorial Iguanodon insularis, super-duck-billed Iguanodon annectens, tube-crested Iguanodon walkeri, ...

Looking where these species fall is a testable thing. Applying a name to it isn't. But it is at least helpful to be consistent, to avoid comparing apples to oranges without even noticing.

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ZEGH8578 [2012-05-28 17:51:31 +0000 UTC]

I've just finished a series of oviraptorids, first hand-drawings in ages, and I'm surprised to note the very similar approach to coloring and patterns as I see in your drawing here. In my attempt to break away from "traditionalism", I've taken to apply very complex patterns at times, very patience- and time consuming. Unfortunately, I have agreed with much of Paul's lumping, so I am guessing they won't be too well recieved by hardliners
I also made sure to keep the thigh and knee high up - not only to "make it more bird-like", but also to properly balance it. With its legs right down, like your average theropod, it's inevitable gonna fall on its face - because it has too short a tail, it simply doesn't work out. By lifting its knee, you move the whole ankle foreward, coming down from its belly/chest, rather than right down from the pelvis - it places its feet at the centre, and allows the animal to stand upright. As a "bonus" it appears much more birdy Now this shouldn't be blindly applied to all bird-like dinosaurs, such as Dromaeosaurs, because these have a very long tail, and are perfectly balanced with their legs stretching directly downwards from the pelvis.

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pilsator In reply to ZEGH8578 [2012-05-28 18:06:59 +0000 UTC]

What are you waiting for? Bring them on, man

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Durbed [2012-03-07 12:22:37 +0000 UTC]

Have you thought of trying coloring one of these? a rendition like this (good job again, btw) with all the intrincate detail and markings could look espectacular.

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pilsator In reply to Durbed [2012-03-07 16:04:43 +0000 UTC]

I don't know jack shit about PhotoShop etc. Speaking of which, as you're a great-colors-on-their-dinosaurs person, a kickass collaboration might emerge from that

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Durbed In reply to pilsator [2012-03-07 18:50:43 +0000 UTC]

Count me in! just tell me via pm what you have in mind, or we can discuss it in Hell Creek, wathever you prefer.

(Digital painting isn´t really hard btw, in a few months you could get really good... )

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Teratophoneus [2012-03-03 14:29:30 +0000 UTC]

einfach wunderschön. Und gut zu wissen das das tier bald mal beschrieben wird

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pilsator In reply to Teratophoneus [2012-03-05 15:38:31 +0000 UTC]

sehr, sehr danke ^^ ich will mal hoffen dass es nich allzu lange dauert, dass es lang und ausführlich wird, und hoffentlich in plos o.ä. rauskommt.

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DerJenigste [2012-02-12 12:45:17 +0000 UTC]

du hast das mit den haut- und federstrukturen echt drauf.
machst du beruflich was in die richtung archäologie oder so? oder einfach ein fan?

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pilsator In reply to DerJenigste [2012-02-14 23:56:23 +0000 UTC]

danke ersma

mach das eher so als nerdige nebenbeschäftigung - is glücklicherweise ne disziplin die sehr weit im internet angekommen is, und deren publizierter primärliteratur echt simpel zu folgen is. sry für das was jetz kommt: es is paläontologie. archäologie is alles mit toten menschen was zu alt is für geschichte (wo auch immer mensch da den strich zieht), oder auch nich (jedenfalls nix mit den tieren)

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DerJenigste In reply to pilsator [2012-02-18 14:40:49 +0000 UTC]

gut zu wissen. ich dachte archäologie umfasst alles genannte .
auf jeden fall ein äußerst interessantes hobby, bei mir ist die gelebte faszination für dergleichen, wie bei vielen anderen denke ich auch, im kindesalter versackt. schade eigentlich, das ganze übt schon noch einen gewissen reiz aus.

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pilsator In reply to DerJenigste [2012-02-19 05:13:05 +0000 UTC]

is bei den meisten so. irgendwann kommen fußball und mädels bei mir ham die viecher trotzdem überlebt.

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Elperdido1965 [2012-02-02 11:01:01 +0000 UTC]

toll gelungen sehr schöne Federzeichnungen und Muster !sehr inspirierend

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pilsator In reply to Elperdido1965 [2012-02-02 11:21:26 +0000 UTC]

sehr, sehr danke mann

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Tyrannotitan333 [2012-02-01 21:53:44 +0000 UTC]

The patterns are great!

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pilsator In reply to Tyrannotitan333 [2012-02-02 11:22:03 +0000 UTC]

Thx Tyranno!

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babbletrish [2012-02-01 19:16:46 +0000 UTC]

Lovely drawing.

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pilsator In reply to babbletrish [2012-02-02 11:21:11 +0000 UTC]

Thanks a lot, Trish!

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EWilloughby [2012-02-01 18:45:45 +0000 UTC]

Awesome work! Love the facial markings especially.

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pilsator In reply to EWilloughby [2012-02-02 11:20:58 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! I'm actually quite satisfied with the cranial feather pattern, but the crest patterns were more or less a "wtf am i supposed to do now?" afterthought.

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E-Smaniotto [2012-02-01 17:13:37 +0000 UTC]

Wonderful!
And you should be very satisfied, both the versions are gorgeous

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pilsator In reply to E-Smaniotto [2012-02-01 18:06:06 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much :>

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Kazanlak10 [2012-02-01 17:01:19 +0000 UTC]

Looks great, cool pose, does a great job of showing off your ability to accurately draw dinosaur anatomy in a variety of stances.

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pilsator In reply to Kazanlak10 [2012-02-01 18:04:53 +0000 UTC]

Thanks a lot, Kaz!

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