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Dinolover1416 [2015-11-18 00:00:29 +0000 UTC]
Did you mean macrauchenian?
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SuperCJ [2012-11-30 01:28:20 +0000 UTC]
These remind me of what a moose would look like if it were to be mixed with a llama or Bactrian camel.
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PonchoFirewalker01 [2009-10-03 15:39:52 +0000 UTC]
Those big ones look like they're a cross between a saiga antelope, a moose, and a camel.
They are COOL!!!!
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Social-Animal [2009-08-17 16:24:53 +0000 UTC]
Saiga antelope are the shit, when I first saw them in "Planet Earth" I was like: Holy shit those are the coolest ungulates ever. I giddily appreciate their influence here.
What's their herd structure like? Male dominated harems or elephant-esque matriarchal herds with roving bachelor packs competing for mating rights? Can they vocalize with their trunks?
Damn, I love these things.
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povorot In reply to Social-Animal [2009-08-17 18:08:17 +0000 UTC]
Thanks, man - I felt the same way when I first saw the saiga! I had to use that snout in this project.
For herd structure, I was thinking the larger chulengos would have more gregarious social lives then the camelids I modeled them on. I think the bachelor-herd idea works well. During most of the year, the females and young would live in herds of up to 300, with the males living in much smaller herds of 10-40. During the winter, these herds would come together in to big mixed winter mega-herds, numbering in the thousands. As for vocalizing, I dunno. Maybe having the trunks evolved as resonating chambers (duck-bill style?) for calls between chulengos on the high steppes...
I've been thinking of an arctic species, too - looking something like a stocky humpless bactrian camel with caribou colouring (and the saiga schnozz, of course).
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Social-Animal In reply to povorot [2009-08-17 21:10:32 +0000 UTC]
The mega-herd idea sounds awesome, would be quite the ecological event for the local predators and scavengers.
I could see the arctic breed being somewhat woolly, like a musk-ox. Their big noses would be perfect for warming up the air before it enters their respiratory system; a common adaptation for animals living in freezing climates.
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Chimpeetah [2009-08-15 15:27:33 +0000 UTC]
Amazing animals ! They completely plausible, they could even serve as models for future mammals !
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povorot In reply to Chimpeetah [2009-08-17 05:06:45 +0000 UTC]
Thanks, man - I hadn't even thought of that!
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M0AI [2009-08-15 04:32:59 +0000 UTC]
"(I'm enjoying playing with my new ungulate friends a lot...)"
I'm enjoying it too. Conservative to be completely believable, yet different enough to still be interesting.
I'm likin' your technique with these, too. Rough, yet still gets the job done.
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povorot In reply to M0AI [2009-08-17 05:30:36 +0000 UTC]
THanks! I've been trying to be a little more conservative with my critters - looking at a few of the more cringe-worthy dougal dixon creatures, I figured that to err on the side of the real might end up looking better in the long run.
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M0AI In reply to povorot [2009-08-17 16:19:10 +0000 UTC]
No flightless muppet-pterosaurs? No brachiating felines?
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avancna [2009-08-15 04:22:32 +0000 UTC]
a) -auchenia just means "neck," actually. Otherwise, Synauchenia would be a rather odd name for a short-necked placoderm.
b) I can't help but to think that the chulengos are descended from the love-fawns of a moose and a saiga antelope.
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povorot In reply to avancna [2009-08-15 04:40:26 +0000 UTC]
A: Shit. Well, "ruminating neck" doesn't make any sense. What would I call it, then?
B: It was a three-way with a camel, actually.
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avancna In reply to povorot [2009-08-15 05:17:02 +0000 UTC]
a) You could go with "Merychocamelidae," but, "ruminating camel" is a little redundant, as, they can apparently already ruminate. But, "Merychauchenia" sounds fine as is, anyhow.
b) It's the only way to go when you're with a camel, even.
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povorot In reply to avancna [2009-08-16 16:30:48 +0000 UTC]
Could you help me with latin names, if you ever have a moment? I was thinking Ceratodon as the infraorder for the tusked ungulates...
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avancna In reply to povorot [2009-08-16 18:05:43 +0000 UTC]
I'd be more than happy to help with the taxonomy... Like "Ceratodontia"?
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povorot In reply to avancna [2009-08-17 05:05:06 +0000 UTC]
Exactly! I think I'm going to be having a lot of trouble with the derived deinonychosaurids soon, so I might need some taxonomic guidance!
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avancna In reply to povorot [2009-08-17 12:57:56 +0000 UTC]
I am at your service, then.
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Rayn-Hammer [2009-08-15 03:56:40 +0000 UTC]
did these evolve from a common ancestor of Tapirs?
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povorot In reply to Rayn-Hammer [2009-08-17 05:12:02 +0000 UTC]
No - they're descendants of artiodactyl or artiodactyl-like ungulate ancestors. The tapir-like features are the product of convergent evolution.
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Rayn-Hammer In reply to povorot [2009-08-17 05:28:48 +0000 UTC]
I expected that answer, but I just love asking.... oh yeah, what happened to pterasaurs in this alternate earth, did the avian-dinosaurs kick them off the pedestal or what? Oh and keep up the amazing work!
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