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AuroraArtz [2020-02-27 10:40:10 +0000 UTC]
So, according to your logic: if I eat any sort of meat and like some animals at the same time, I'm a "hypocrite" and my opinion is worthless.
I fucking hate white people
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DarkArts1011 In reply to AuroraArtz [2020-04-07 02:34:28 +0000 UTC]
I agree with you, but where did white come into this? Do you know their skin color? Do you just assume all groups of skin color are the same?
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Pupaveg In reply to AuroraArtz [2020-02-28 18:58:48 +0000 UTC]
In our culture, we are taught to love some animals, and kill others. As there are no significant differences in their desire to avoid fear and death, there are no moral reasons for our double standards, which makes it - in fact - hypocritical. Have you ever thought about why we love dogs, kill pigs and wear cows?
Also, why do you assume I'm white? How is skin color even relevant in this?
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AuroraArtz In reply to Pupaveg [2020-02-28 19:45:46 +0000 UTC]
Because its always and will be rich entitled white people who complains about the littlest things.
Well, that's how the people from United States act
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Pupaveg In reply to AuroraArtz [2020-03-05 16:15:49 +0000 UTC]
Honestly, the very fact that you consider the oppression, torture, mutilation, sexual exploitation, and mass-killing of your victims "little things" makes you come a lot closer to the "rich white person" description you mentioned. After all... throughout history, wasn't it "rich white people" who were known for oppressing and killing others who look different from them, and on top of that were apathetic to their victim's horrendous suffering?
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AuroraArtz In reply to Pupaveg [2020-03-05 16:34:39 +0000 UTC]
My nigga, why did you get triggered so much?
Is it because I disagree to your retarded world views or you just hate people?
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DarkArts1011 In reply to AuroraArtz [2020-04-07 02:35:53 +0000 UTC]
You seem like a racist biggot, my nigga. I'm sorry anyone had to read your disgusting comment.
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AuroraArtz In reply to DarkArts1011 [2020-04-07 09:02:29 +0000 UTC]
Y'all hate me cause I speak the truth
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Tnynfox In reply to AuroraArtz [2021-02-10 00:00:44 +0000 UTC]
We hate you coz you're talking really racist against white people
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Tnynfox In reply to AuroraArtz [2021-02-10 14:15:38 +0000 UTC]
And I'm allowed to say you're having a double standard, and that your statements are harmful and deliberately hostile, and that your statements would probably be banned as hate speech on most platforms.
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Pupaveg In reply to AuroraArtz [2020-03-05 20:05:59 +0000 UTC]
Or I replied politely and you ignored my questions? Does polite conversation quantify being triggered?
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AuroraArtz In reply to Pupaveg [2020-03-05 21:06:21 +0000 UTC]
In today's standards and your country's logic; Yes
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Pupaveg In reply to AuroraArtz [2020-03-10 22:50:25 +0000 UTC]
You're not making sense.
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AuroraArtz In reply to Pupaveg [2020-03-11 09:14:10 +0000 UTC]
Neither do you
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SachinAmateurArtist [2019-07-05 23:33:17 +0000 UTC]
The most devastating realization about the opposition towards the animal rights movement is not the hypocrisy but the idea that so many people encourage animals to suffer for their personal desires and mock the people who care. Nice cover by the way.
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Pupaveg In reply to SachinAmateurArtist [2019-07-11 09:41:19 +0000 UTC]
Thanks. And yeah, you're right. Most people are selfish and only think of themselves, not their victims. I hope my art can convince at least some people to think beyond "I want".
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Pupaveg In reply to SachinAmateurArtist [2019-07-14 20:26:42 +0000 UTC]
Over 1200 so far. I'm only counting the ones who contacted me about it though.
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Pupaveg In reply to LalaAdanwenB [2019-04-01 12:50:13 +0000 UTC]
You're welcome. I used to be one of those people, too. I paid to kill animals, but I loved my rabbit, so I considered myself an animal lover. But when you think about it, it's like saying that cannibals love people just because they don't eat their own children. Most people who say they are animal lovers are only pet lovers.
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Pupaveg In reply to LalaAdanwenB [2019-04-06 10:59:46 +0000 UTC]
Thank you. I'll keep drawing.
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IrritatorRaji [2018-07-06 21:40:03 +0000 UTC]
I always find art like this to be super ironic....
Like, "people who eat meat are evil!" says the people who are also responsible for deaths of thousands of animals who's homes were cleared to make way for crops and their lives snuffed to protect said crops.
We all play a part in killing animals and destroying the environment, our diet doesn't make us any more or less of a good person. It's absolutely impossible for humans to live a life that doesn't result in animals and the environment suffering.
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Pupaveg In reply to IrritatorRaji [2018-07-11 12:47:37 +0000 UTC]
First of all, if you're really serious about this, then it makes no sense to feed up livestock on millions and millions of plants, and then kill the animal to eat. This would result in far more plant casualties, which makes animal agriculture (in fact) the leading cause of deforestation and habitat destruction, which you'd surely want to avoid as a dedicated environmentalist. Better to minimize land destruction and plant casualties by just feeding 7 billion humans on them, rather than feeding many times more to 58 billion animals, right?
Second, as humans, we are born into a world where all consumerist actions cause harm in one way or another. But to say we shouldn't bother minimising our harm in one area just because we are causing harm in other areas is a complete cop-out. To use an analogy: if you are a lifeguard and see a group of people drowning, should you not bother to jump in and save any because you can't save them all? This is what you're doing when you continue to fund animal oppression simply because you can't stop all oppression. With regards to there being animal products in everyday items such as car tyres, windows, walls, etc., we shouldn't be focusing on 2% of the problem. The 55 billion land animals and 90 billion marine animals massacred every year are massacred by the meat, dairy, egg, leather, wool, and fish industries—not the car tyre industry. Not the glass industry. So let's focus on the extremely simple and practical solution of boycotting meat, dairy, egg, leather, wool, etc. and then we can see those industries switch to plant-based alternatives.
Veganism isn't about dogmatically and irrationally saying "I am perfect, I harm nothing". It is about recognising the harm that is being done by our society, and trying to make a change, avoid being part of it - as far as we can. Just because you can't avoid all harm, doesn't mean it's justified to intentionally cause more harm when it's unnesssecary. You can use that poor argument for every form of senseless violence in the world, and realize how illogical it sounds by using it consistently.
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ClareLaBelleRose [2018-06-02 14:36:01 +0000 UTC]
"Animal lovers" who only care about cats and dogs in a nutshell.
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squidwardfan101 [2018-03-21 12:02:59 +0000 UTC]
Guess who saw another argument about PLANTS?! If you guessed me, you're right.
And Thankful for what the animal offers. Here's an idea, don't kill it, then it won't be killed.
Circle of life, what a stupid argument. By that logic, if a superior being killed and ate you, it'd be okay because of the CIRCLE of life.
Not all plants are healthy, but they're healthier than eating meat.
And you're a meat eater if you eat meat.
What stupid arguments did you see?!
This is the argument.
This is why I feel a bit better eating meat with my vegetables/fruit. Because at least I'm showing that I'm thankful for what the animal has offered after being killed against its will. There's no use crying over spilled milk, people. Once an animal dies, we can't do much in our power to bring it back so I don't see why animalaboo vegans cry over the meat isle at stores. Not saying that they should stop being vegan, but to stop being a animalboo. Instead of rejecting what the trees, plants, and animals offered to me or the rest of the world- I suck it up and face the philosophy that it's the circle of life (cIRCLE OF LIIIIIIIFE) and I'm only eating meat to turn that chicken/cow/etc. into energy/fuel for me to live on. When I was a vegan at age 12, I was crazy animalaboo vegan. I'd only cry over dem wulfs but dont care if a spider dies. I, too, was a crazy animalaboo vegan until my boyfriend taught me that Native Americans respect animals by using/taking everything what the hunted animal offers. I'm no meat-eater nor vegan- I like to have a mix of both and have a colorful plate for dinner but I highly respect and love this stamp . Vegans cry and baaaaw over certain animals dying yet they don't think twice that plants are capable of having cells, providing themselves a immune system, and even supporting one another when water is scarce. I love how vegans say that "aLL PLANTS R HEALTHY AND HELP U" yet plants are also perfectly capable of fucking you up. Ever heard of toxalbumins, dear vegans? Ya know- poison ivy, marijuana, poisonous mushrooms, or Anemophily.
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Pupaveg In reply to squidwardfan101 [2018-03-27 17:32:24 +0000 UTC]
Oh, the same old excuses again.
"I'M THANKFUL TO WHAT THE ANIMAL HAS OFFERED".
The animal didn't offer anything, especially not their lives - you violently TOOK it. Also, giving thanks to a victim after killing them does NOTHING for the victim and you only do so to make yourself feel better.
I'm going to drag George and Sidekick into this because I'm lazy. Hope you can use these:
"THE ANIMALS WE BUY FROM THE SHOP ARE DEAD ANYWAY"
Indeed. But buying an animal product isn't a bad thing for the animal who is already dead—it's a bad thing for the animal who is now going to be killed as a result of the money you paid to that industry to kill them in order to replace that product on the shelf. Every time we pay for an animal product, we pay for another animal to be abused and murdered. Again, this is the reality of supply and demand. We vote with our wallet every time we buy an animal product, and say: "I support animal cruelty".
Circle of life
I am not really sure what this means but I will try to cover it - if the suggestion is that "you live you die, therefore killing is fine" then this would justify killing companion animals and also humans. If the suggestion is "we kill an animal so that we can live" then this is false. Animals are killed for the enjoyment of eating their dead bodies. It is not a matter of survival, as proven by all the hundreds of millions of vegans in the world.
Plants have feelings
First of all, if you're really serious about this and no amount of scientific evidence will sway you - then it purely comes down to numbers. If a blade of grass is of the same importance to you as a dog, then it makes no sense to feed up livestock on millions and millions of plants, and then kill the animal to eat. This would result in far more plant casualties, which you'd surely want to avoid as a dedicated plants-rights activist. Better to minimize those plant casualties by just feeding yourself on them, rather than feeding many times more to animals, right? But let's be sensible - plants lack brains and lack anything else that neuroscientists know to cause sentience. Some studies show plants to have input/output reactions to certain stimulation, but no study suggests sentience or an ability to "feel emotions". You can plainly understand the difference between a blade of grass and a dog. Comparisons between the two are completely absurd.
"All plants are healthy".
An absurd strawman no one ever actually said.
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squidwardfan101 In reply to Pupaveg [2018-03-28 13:43:57 +0000 UTC]
Yep. It's an idiotic argument all around.
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LastKrystalDragon [2018-02-11 15:59:06 +0000 UTC]
Damn, I love this artstyle <3
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Pupaveg In reply to GeoffreyCreamPie [2018-02-03 15:10:40 +0000 UTC]
Meat is often seen as just being a type of food. But it is a dead body, of a once living creature. To say "I just like the taste" is to say "Killing is justified if I like the flavour of the dead body". If we follow through with this, then somebody would be justified in killing your pets if they liked the taste, which surely nobody would agree with. Or even extend it to humans and say that if someone likes the taste of human flesh, then it's fine to murder people.
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Pupaveg In reply to GeoffreyCreamPie [2018-02-03 15:44:26 +0000 UTC]
Is that all you can say? Are you ignoring my argument?
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Pupaveg In reply to GeoffreyCreamPie [2018-02-06 13:16:30 +0000 UTC]
Aaaaand, now he is banned by the staff...
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superdragonfan [2018-01-23 05:10:15 +0000 UTC]
this is so great i love burgers
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Pupaveg In reply to superdragonfan [2018-01-23 11:58:25 +0000 UTC]
Me, too. Vegan junkfood bar in Amsterdam their burgers are delicious!
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superdragonfan In reply to Pupaveg [2018-01-23 20:24:50 +0000 UTC]
gross not vegan burgers
delicious meat burgers mmmm
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Pupaveg In reply to superdragonfan [2018-01-23 22:46:28 +0000 UTC]
You mean decaying corpse burgers? No, thanks.
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TheLaughingGiant In reply to Pupaveg [2018-06-28 13:36:50 +0000 UTC]
Be careful. Lions and tigers also feast on "decaying corpses" as you claim.
Are you going to say that they're in the wrong too just because eating meat
is a necessity for carnivores like then?
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