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Published: 2013-11-12 14:50:36 +0000 UTC; Views: 20928; Favourites: 492; Downloads: 0
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WARNING: OLD ART!! The art and comments in this Deviation may no longer represent the artist's current views or interests.
Laz'ab is a psychopath and therefore does not register emotions very well. His inability to empathize with his victims or feel sympathy for other individuals is what makes him such an effective inquisitor.
What he feels for Doctor Azil'mort and Caspira is not companionship or "love", he is merely accustomed to their presence. Azil'mort has managed to attain the highest level of "trust" Laz'ab has ever allowed another person but even now the doctor knows that bond can be severed with one misstep. Due to the years of abuse Laz suffered before he is extremely mistrustful of people, and has no intention of making "friends".
What he feels for Caspira is a sense of ownership. Before Darth Tholgeth owned her she was tasked with stalking him for her previous handler. Even though she works for another Darth, in his twisted mind Laz'ab feels that because she was spying on him, she is therefore his shadow and by relation his Agent. Her working for Tholgeth now—a Darth he so despises—sets off his paranoid schizophrenia like nothing else. For all he knows Tholgeth could have access to all his secrets, and Caspira's work for him keeps her away from Laz. He would rather know who is shadowing him, and he has grown accustomed to Caspira and Caspira alone.
Her resemblance to Koma works against her in this case, as he can easily—and has in the past—slipped into a rage when his sense of reality and his psychosis blurs. He has attempted to kill her more than once before when mistaking her for his hated late Master. He harbors nothing but the deepest, darkest hatred for Darth Koma; she is the biggest and loudest shadow in his mind.
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TL;DR: No, Laz'ab is not the least bit attracted to or emotionally vested in Caspira beyond his usual scything hatred or mistrust of people. If he behaves as though he is attracted to someone it is always unintentionally, as he has no sense of "normal" emotions or how people conventionally act on them.
--Sak
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It's just that some fans want to see the characters they are fond of to find happiness even if it is commonly associated with love of another. That's why fans can always wish... even if it contradicts what the artist/author makes of the character. It is making me wonder why most of us fans want these characters to fall in love and be happy.
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I guess that just means they're functional human beings.
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I'm not trying to offend! I mean, I'm one of these fans that think the same. I'm just think in example of Sonic the hedgehog. The original artist wanted Sonic to be a bachelor for the rest of his life and not be tied down from being a hero. Something like that... Sega didn't keep that up for long... It makes me wonder how the original artist felt after they put Amy in there then all the fans wanting them to be together (including me again) Some artists can be stubborn when it comes to their own characters. I guess I'm taking this a little deeper than it needs to. But once again, I was not trying to offend fans like me about wishing.
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I don't mind people wishing and hoping. It's no small secret that I dislike slash pairings because I consider them non-canonical, but I have a "live and let live" attitude--so long as people aren't badgering me to draw it, I don't mind if they do, and just avoid stumbling across it if I can. It's the same with non-slash non-canonical pairings, but I don't take offense except on rare occasions. Unfortunately, there have been a few instances where people have made demands on my own characters, and I've had to put my foot down, but I haven' taken any offense from you.
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wow I typed an entire paragraph and all deviant kept was.."I could see a tendency for OCD" how...lovely.
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I am simply in awe. Such a fascinating concept brought to life. I too like to do a lot of research for my characters, especially the seriously messed up ones.
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...Laz'ab really is a phsychological mess, isn't he? Also, out of curiosity, is Laz'ab's psychological problem-killer-combo something that you can get, or just a throw-together of various problems?
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Laz'ab is a paranoid schizophrenic, impotent, and asexual, who was abused sexually, physically, and mentally when he was younger. When he discovered his Force sensitivity, he became Acolyte to a manipulative Darth, who further compounded the problem. It's one traumatic event after another, coupled with psychosis, which makes him what he is. While he is a fictional character, I studied serial killers and mental illnesses in-depth for half a year before RPing him, and his main points of influence are Edward Gein, Dennis Nilsen, and Jeffrey Dahmer.
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Just wanted to say I love the fact that you took the time to research serial killers and mental illnesses before you started bringing out your character. Sorry, completely random.
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wow...that's -way- more research then I ever do when I try to figure out how to roleplay a character... It seems to be a lot of work too, but I guess it makes the end result more satisfying?
Oh, and thank you for taking time to reply, since I am probably far from the only to ask this
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For Laz'ab I wanted to challenge myself to play a mentally disturbed character who was more "realistic"--by that I mean, I took inspiration from real people, and not pre-existing fictional characters with psychosis (ie: The Joker, Johnny the Homicidal Maniac, etc.) I find it very fun to try to play him as realistically as I can, despite his very fictional circumstances. I also enjoy seeing how long it takes complete strangers to figure out something is wrong with him, since sometimes--as with real serial killers--Laz'ab can blend pretty well with the crowd.
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I can see how playing it realistic can be fun. After all, real-life psycotics aren't like, say, my undead mage on World of Warcraft that had such a badly rp-ed case of Pyromania that he stood out like, I donno, a lit match in a dry haytap. If they were like that they wouldn't be hard to catch, you'd just need to follow the trail... All this said, I can safely say that noone I know of would try to rp a character like this realisticly, so to me at least, watching them deal with a character like Laz'ab would be so much fun.
So with all this said, I take off my non-existing hat before you my Lady (and throw it on the by-now burning haytap). Awesome character, and once again, than k you for taking time to reply
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Laz'ab is generally described as having schizophrenia.
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I'm thinking more of the very extensive explanation that goes with the picture. Laz'ab is in WAY deeper then plain schizophrenia
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I think you just broke my brain with that second panel...
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I'm so glad there is no romance between them! Just Laz'ab asserting his ownership!
Out of pure curiosity, has Romal and Laz'ab met yet? Romal seems to spend a lot of time around Caspira, and Caspira is among the very few people Laz'ab allows to live. If not, how would that roll out?
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Romal has met Darth Tholgeth in passing, but Caspira saw to it that he got out of there before he got caught up in Sith politics. Laz has not meant him, and Romal is pretty low down on the "Agents who Demand Attention" list to encounter him. He prefers avoiding agent work when he can.
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Wonder what Caspira's reaction would be if she met an alternate version of Laz'ab who sane, nice and normal? Or Laz'ab reaction to his alternate self?
...Don't know Caspira's, but Laz'ab would probably kill the other version out of spite.
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Laz probably would, yes. But Caspira is an ex-Darth who lost her ties to the Force, but she is no less cunning and manipulative now. As much as I feel sorry for all the crap she goes through, I know in my back of my mind that, if she had the opportunity, she would easily turn into a second Darth Koma for Laz'ab.
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Hahaha, I understand completely, my pseudopsychopath Donnie has the same mindset, where people are just objects to be used. I look forward to more of Laz'ab, great character design there.
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Well the thought was rather nice, but I do prefer him in his natural (un-natural?) state. It would be rather odd to see Laz'ab to react in a more...friendly way. I've already grown accustom to him being so psychotic that it just seems perfect for him to be that. It really does make for a great character in my opinion.
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I love and at the same time feel sad for Laz'ab...
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What does Laz'ab sound like? I've always had this idea of what he sounds like but it's probably completely wrong. LOL
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I addressed this a week ago; you even commented on the picture: canadian-rainwater.deviantart.…
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HAHA that's not what I asked though... That's just what I thought Laz'ab's theme song sounded like. But in truth, I always thought his voice sounded like the voice of Berry the Butcher from Fullmetal Alchemist. Hm.....
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That is what his voice sounds like; I explained it all in the comments.
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Hm. Alas, the ignorant fool is educated. Thank you!
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There are moments like that in my life where I think I'm being friendly was actually terrifying.
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I gotta say, that middle panel almost breaks my brain. I could see it happening for several reasons but none of them involving love/attraction. That same old song and dance of manipulation ("Protect me, Tholgeth is going to X!") and possession ("No, mine!") but the tenderness that Laz is actually displaying? Does not compute! That said it did have me rolling laughing. I love the explanation and how you approached and worded it too because I imagine a lot of people get confused with some of the art/interaction we tend to draw without knowing the whole concept and story behind the weird dynamic that Cas, Laz and Azil have.
Also gtfo smug Bi'ev. X3
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Their dynamic is so bizarre, but that's what makes it so much fun! Sometimes Laz does something, and a part of me goes "well, that will confuse people", but it seems perfectly acceptable for me because I understand his intentions entirely. Doesn't make it any less fun to screw with people, though.
Lots of grabby hands going on lately, though ... I am so curious how Things Will Change with the current plans ... and yes. Tenderness!Laz was just a lot of "NOPE" while drawing it, but I thought it was a fair exaggeration of our roleplay.
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It's times like these that I wonder what Alternate Universe Sane Laz'ab with a Beard is doing...
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Oh man XD This is all most exactly what happens with two of my characters XD
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Yeah, I always figured he doesn't 'love' certain people so much as seeing them as his property. It's part of what makes him so fascinating.
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Aaaaaaahhh ! Another True Love Story. I love the way you show what some people "Think" will happen and what "Really" happens. This series of strips has never failed to brighten up my day.
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No, but seriously. Laz'ab being affectionate for real is something that should... never be real. That panel makes me cringe everytime I look at it. It's.... It's just not right?!!
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Laz killing someone = perfectly acceptable.
But god forbid he hug someone!
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i was wondering if you've heard about a new study that suggests psychopaths have the ability to sympathize or have empathy, but they have the ability to turn it off. ive always appreciated the obvious research you do for your characters so i thought ide ask
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It sounds like you are describing a sociopath, people who have control over their emotions and know that what they are doing is wrong, but they do it anyway and care little for the people affected by their actions. Laz'ab literally suffers from psychosis; he cannot "turn off" his enjoyment at other peoples' suffering, and does not always realize what he thinks and does is not what other people consider normal. He does, however, recognize enough social trends to blend in sometimes, something that is reflected in modern serial killers. Many of them go years without being caught. Most of these people are classified as sociopaths--with more control, so blending is easier--but there are those who are downright psychotic. My three main points of reference for Laz'ab were Edward Gein, Dennis Nilsen, and Jeffrey Dahmer.
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yes! i know it sounds like im describing a sociopath, thats what was so interesting about the article. i know many people lump sociopaths together psychopaths thinking their the same thing but i look up mental illnesses for research into my own characters and curiosity so im aware of the difference, in fact my own research is what lead me to the study in question. they had psychopathic convicts participate in a study on empathy using an mri machine, they were placed inside and shown movies depicting ether loving or violent interactions between people. as expected their brains showed little activity, but that changed when they were specifically asked to empathize, when asked their brains showed nearly the same level of activity as a mentally healthy persons brain. its a new study done sometime this year as far as i can tell (or at least the articles on it were done this year) so it may be refuted at some later date down the line, i just thought it was an interesting read, and this recent post of yours brought it to mind so i thought ide share if you hadnt read anything on it yet, thats all. heres a link to one article on the subject, its not the one i read but its the same study i was reading about www.livescience.com/38421-psyc… .
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Funny that they ask psychopaths to feel an emotion they supposedly have never experienced; could you replicate an emotion or an action that you had never experienced before? With the exception of Dahmer, the common trend in all of the psychopaths I looked at was their complete and utter lack of remorse at their actions, and their disinterest in feeling sorry.
I watched a documentary where scientists discovered that paranoid schizophrenia is an incurable disease, that actually rots the brain over a period of years, which conflicts with some studies I found that suggests there are certain drugs that can dampen the experiences. If the brain isn't whole anymore, I doubt it can reproduce emotions properly, either.
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They didn’t exactly instruct them to feel a specific emotion, they sort of coached them into it. The test subjects were asked to "feel with the receiving or approaching hand" of the people in the film they were shown, and with that type of instruction they were able to feel empathy on a more normal level, perhaps for the first time. Because psychopaths think mainly of themselves I personally think empathy isn’t as much of a stretch for them as some may think, as it still requires them to think of themselves, just in a way they aren’t used to and probably don’t see any logical reason for.
Do you remember the name of the documentary perhaps? Ide like to see that if I could find it. I tried looking up info on google and found a few sites on the subject of schizophrenic brains showing structural changes, but most of the changes are accredited to long-term antipsychotic use. What’s interesting about that is I couldn’t find anything on structural changes in the brain of someone with bi-polar even though both illnesses are treated with antipsychotics.
abuse has also been shown to cause stunted brain development, so that also plays a huge role in emotional capabilities too, and laz'ab has been threw more than his fair share.
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I feel like, depending on how far gone the individual is, thinking about empathy is not the same as feeling it. Just because the appropriate area of the brain lights up, doesn't mean they are necessarily feeling it, and that it would prevent them from doing something otherwise untoward. When I'm thinking about being emphatic it's not the same as actually feeling empathy for a person, but I don't know if the same parts of my brain light up or not.
I'd have to do some digging to find the documentary again. It was one of those related links on Youtube while I was browsing for good documentaries. Mental illnesses scare me, the thought that at any moment your body could suddenly turn against you, and there wouldn't be any way out. I watched a documentary about nurses who were killing their patients, and one of their victims was an army vet who became schizophrenic simply because someone bashed him upside the head with a bottle. And that was it. Life over; mental institute until he died. It horrifies me.
Laz's emotional state is definitely stunted. He is 27, looks like he's in his mid-30s, but has the possessive, immature needs as a pre-teen or young adult.
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im pretty sure emotions and thought are located in different parts of the brain but often act in unison, so i do think its possible for them to know if its the thought of an emotion lighting up the scan or if its the actual emotion. if a psychopath was able to turn off key emotions it'd explain why they are able to be so charming one minute and an unfeeling killer the next.
ill have to look through youtube then, im always looking for interesting documentaries to watch. that veteran must have had a family history of schizophrenia, or his brain injury caused similar symptoms. both schizophrenia and bipolar disorder are genetic and share three genetic markers with each other, so if you're at risk for either you'd be able to tell by looking through your family tree. knowing your own mind can turn against you is terrifying, and the public ignorance typically associated with mental illness makes it worse, sometimes even blaming the individual who's already at odds with his/or her self. there isnt anything positive about mental illness, but the different perspective they have on the world is interesting and can be inspirational if not nightmare inducing; thats one of the things that piqued my interest on the subject originally.
some of that could be linked to him gaining power over people also, he has many issues and they could be credited to any or all of the events in his past, except for being a psychopath.
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