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Published: 2011-09-02 13:29:18 +0000 UTC; Views: 30284; Favourites: 151; Downloads: 255
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This is a map of the Kingdom of Lithuania from my "Riga-verse" TL. It's shown with it's more important internal divisions, including those seen in the Duchy of Riga 1562 map. Riga suddenly seems a lot less important when compared to Lithuania, huh?
Anyway, I'll probably go into the historical background in more detail later, but here's a quick overview:
- Moscow was burned by Mongols when it was still a minor trading post in the woods. (The main PoD of the TL. Results in a lot of butterflies.)
- The Polish nobles fail to intercept the Lithuanian crown after the Meeting of Lutsk, meaning that Vytautas the Great is crowned King of Lithuania. Results in pretty bad relations between Poland and Lithuania. Lithuania is best-buddies with Hungary though, which puts Poland in a rather awkward position.
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A bigger version of the Lithuanian flag can be found here: [link]
The compass rose was found here: [link]
The paper textures were found here: [link]
I used this as my basemap: [link]
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i saw it on one lithuanian facebook group and they viewed it as real map.... facepalm (i am lithuanian myself thats why i saw)
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Popped up on a lithuanian facebook group I'm a part of too literally 30 minutes ago just about to link to it now and say its not real.
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AND THATS HOW ITS SHOULD BE AND MUST BE !!!!!!!! ITS ALWAYS WAS THE SAME AND WILL BE !!!! SARMATIANS-LITHUANIANS had this lands for 1000's of years and must get them back !
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As a lithuanian I agree.
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I'm Lithuanian and can say just wow! Flattering map! Now let's go and try to built time machine!
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Pretty, pretty map 
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Thanks!
About constitutional monarchy...You have a point. Constitutional monarchies were pretty rare in the 16th century too. No idea why I wrote that back when I made the map.
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the Grand Duchy of Lithuania considered itself the successor to the old Kievan Rus' for a long time historically, so that's quite fitting, is it not?
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Indeed it did 
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Yes, I used that as my basemap for this map. I even said as much in the deviation description.
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"- The Polish nobles fail to intercept the Lithuanian crown after the Meeting of Lutsk, meaning that Vytautas the Great is crowned King of Lithuania." ???
What rewriting of history is this?
Vytautas was never crowned as King of Lithuania because the crown was stolen by the Polish. He died without being crowned in 1430 by the official history.
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Yes it was stoled by the polishes... as most of the history hidden ! But times came up, when all true is getting out and showing,that Lithuanians always was a Monarchy, Kingdom, thats how all the Europe was calling them and their Kings. grand dutchy its just a name that came from far east and was misunderstood by polish lowbrainers and wanted to reduce Lithuanians as a nation. But now we getting all the evidence, that its been KINGDOM and STAYED as a kingdom, just started to being called differently, which doesnt change its status !
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The idea was not to produce a factual account of the history of Lithuania at the time, but to create an alternate timeline exploring what could have happened if Vytautas DID get the crown.
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That is nice then, like in the games. The thing is, that some of my friends took it for real and were planning to make posters of it.
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Haha, I see. Why did they want to make a poster of it? School project or something?
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No, to hang it on their wall, like a thing of history. Decoration. They are Lithuanians. You know, if people come to visit, they can look at it, speak about it
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I was just reminded of 'Crusader Kings 2' PC game...
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Haha, yeah. Almost makes me want to try making a mega Lithuania in CK2 myself sometime. Been a while since the last time I played.
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CK2 was much improved and yes, Lithuania could become really big, either by crushing the Norse pagans or by making vassals until King of Russia is possible!
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The last time I played I played as a ZΓ€hringer King of Bavaria. Was a pretty fun game. The game gets a bit too easy when you're safe within the HRE though.
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Can't say, had just finished the demo. I rewrote files in the common folder, more siege losses and such...
HRE... true for Bavaria, yet only if you don't go to become emperor of HRE yourself???
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I was careful to avoid getting elected Emperor for the most part. The time I did get elected, I tried cleaning up the mess the Empire had become by centralizing it under the various royal titles. Destroyed it in the end though, which was not really a bad thing for me at the time. Pretty much made me the undisputed hegemon of Germany without the inconvenience of the Imperial title.
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Yep! Sounds like the Ai troubles with Byzantium in CK1 ... it was usually lost to Seljut Turks in 1st ten years... after that Europe falls quickly, as Spain ... is never united enough to hold back the wrath of Islam!
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Islam got screwed in my CK1 playthrough where I become the Christian king of Egypt though. Managed to convert almost every single province of Egypt into Christian religion and Breton culture lol.
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No joke, me too. Usually King of Arabia and Egypt, so I can create strong vassals as buffers...
Jerusalem with Arabia is fine too, as Baghdad has one more university and much infrastructure all around...
Sadly Deus Vult edition destroyed some scripts which made vassal AI smarter...
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Map is nice but mot probable would be if Poland supported Kievian Rus. Than Lithuania would have only tooday Belarus teritories.
Bat artwork is awesome. :3
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Could you rephrase your question? I am not sure if I understood what you meant.
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He ment that in Lithuanian country Lithuanians were only 20% of population.
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Connection between Russia and Europe overseen by one country?
Not happenin'.
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It did happen historically, and the Lithuania then was weaker and faced by stronger enemies.
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Oh yeah, I forgot. Sorry. So did its neighbours team up and seek to destroy it/split it up?
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There is not even a sliver of unity among the Russian principalities, and Lithuania and Hungary have a common enemy in Poland. Lithuania will fall eventually, but it's currently in its "golden age".
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Very good work))
If this not alternate))
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Thank you. Did you mean that this is good work if it is not alternate, or am I misunderstanding something here?
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I just do not like alternate history))
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Well, just about all my work is alternate history, so I'll have to disappoint you in that case, hehe. n_n'
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Nothing) Works all the same good))
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I think the "Vilnius" text should be bigger, considering it's the capital, otherwhise I love it.
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Good call. Increased the text size a bit, but I couldn't make it much bigger, as that would put it on the same level as whole territories within Lithuania.
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The map looks great ! But since it's not alternative history, i must tell you about a few mistakes.
I see the year is 1562, therefore the Kingdom of Hungary doesn't exist anymore cose it was destroyed at the Battle of Mohacs in 1526 and becomed the Vilayet of Buda. Also the Principality of Transylvania a separate semi-independent country under Ottoman suzeranity !
That's it
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Thanks!
I don't know what makes you say that this isn't alternate history, but it is. Hungary exists as an independent entity - a powerful one at that - due to Matthias Corvinus having a legitimate and worthy heir in this timeline. The Ottomans were unable to crush Hungary the way they did OTL due to Hungary still having the Black Brigade at their disposal, as well as considerable internal stability.
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Sorry i wasn't paying to much attention at these details, cose i've seen that much of it resembled the real history, i just thought this must be a map that wanted to recreate the political situation from those ages.
But since you say that is "alternative" than it's ok
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I generally try to be very conservative and careful with the results of my PoDs when writing serious alternate history. It it seems historical at first glance, that's actually positive.
The changes are actually pretty obvious if you're familiar with Lithuanian, Baltic and Russian history though. There's no Russia or Grand Duchy of Muscovy, the Baltic region has been divided very differently from OTL and Lithuania is an independent kingdom that hates Poland. It also annexed the Crimean Khanate, which never happened OTL.
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