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Sc1r0n In reply to TillShilohComes [2012-04-28 05:41:47 +0000 UTC]

hehe christiananswers.net is my favourite place ever because I've noticed in the begining of my debates that everybody says the exact same things (word by word!) as they are in there. Sadly, truth is that this site has been roundly humiliated by the scientific community and that's because they don't seem to have any grasp about numbers,biology,etc. They are just trying to make everything fit by giving an explanation they made up and if they can't "God did it!".Well...to me, if you're going to say "god did it" there isn't any real worth in arguing about it because then we come back to the debate about the existance of god.

For example,let me give you one of their big mistakes about the ark and the flood. The number of species. They say over 1 million.It's actually over 8 million! The number of aquatic species? Over 200.000! Also,let us not forget the species that would have to travel insange legths over oceans,seas and mountains they couldn't cross.

But let us not forget one thing : Why this happened and who died in flood. I'm sorry but to me, the story about the arc is one of the most cruel that exist in the bible (and there are many). I can't understand why the scholars let these stories go through when they translated the "original" texts. I mean, it's well known that they filtered many many things that didn't fit their likings

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TillShilohComes In reply to Sc1r0n [2012-04-28 07:16:49 +0000 UTC]

IO mainly gave this to you for the information on the wood and different translations pertaining to the wood. Which was supposedly what you were talking about here, the use of the word 'Gopher'.

Of that 8 million, many would be very small. Aquatic species? Why on earth would many of the aquatic species need the Ark? At that time all land masses were joined in one way or another & Noah did not build the Ark in a day. It would have taken quite some time. The world was different then.

These 'stories' are there because God wanted them to be there. If man had written the Bible, they would not be. Man tends to like to leave out certain things that might tend to show what he has done wrong, or might not appeal. God tells it all. As for cruel, you have no idea what those people were like, or what they were. For a start, child sacrifice was the norm. The 'scholars' put them there because it was God's Word they were recording, not their own.

I know, your belief, and I could type here for months, but my purpose is not to 'convert', my purpose her is to try to understand why you, like many atheists are trying to destroy Christianity. And I am seeing that while some atheists do not believe there is a God, feel comfortable with that, and do not feel they have to destroy Christianity (and this is what I see here in your works, because I do not see anything done here ridiculing Islam, Judaism, sure the Ark is in the OT, but your work is against Christianity), Buddhism, or anything else, just Christianity).

The type of Atheism I see here is another, it is a religion. The 'religion of unbelief'. I noted that to someone who commented here (on the 'belief' page, propaganda page, when they asked if Atheism had a symbol, you gave a link to the National Atheists Association, who do have a symbol, and it is a stylized pentagram with an "A" in the centre. "A" for "Accuser", not just Atheist. This Atheism is a 'religion', they are non prophet, yet cry out about Christian churches not having to pay taxes, while they get the same benefit, being 'non profit'. They take donations, something else they ridicule in the Christian Churches (none others I notice, just Christian churches, as you have here in one deviation). They profess what they are committed to, and in your deviation on Atheism, you put forward an Atheist 'creed', what Atheist want AND their BELIEF'S! 'We believe', this is religion. To say they accept everyone's belief's is a lie, because they actively try to tear down Christianity in every way they can. Take a look at my profile page, my Gallery, do you see any art that mocks Atheists? Says they should not be able to have rights, that THEY should be separated from State? That no Atheist should be allowed to run for office? That Atheists can't have their buses, like in the UK? Or that they should not have 'Temple's'? Which has been seriously proposed by some, I can give you the link if you like? The first has already been designed by an architect!

Stalin was an atheist, he killed millions, and I saw that in one comment you said this, and said he was an asshole, but I see no works here on what he did, or any of the other murderous atheists that have existed & or do, nothing to show you want to 'clean up your own backyard so to speak'? Not ONE word against any atheists & or ill they have done, yet many Christians have and DO speak out against wrongs that may have been done by people who claim to be Christian. In your country, are you free to do as you will, as long as you stay within 'human law'? How are you discriminated against by Christians there? Are their any made mobs running round the streets to 'stone' you? Whereas you and other atheists in your 'religion', just seem to love to imply that that is what Christians are like.

Other then some nice photography here, your whole gallery & or work here, is atheist propaganda, mock the Christian faith, attack the Christian, attack God, etc, your words where you say you have nothing against Christians, are lies. You do have a great hate for Christians & God, and you try to gloss it over with a lie, because in your heart, you would dearly LOVE to see Christianity destroyed.

"I cannot understand why the scholars let these stories go through when they translated the "original" texts. I mean, its well known that they filtered many original things that didn't fit their likings."

This should tell you something, this insight you refuse to see. The reason why they are there, is because it is God's Word, not theirs. Which PROVES NOTHING was 'filtered', if it had been, they would not be there!

I invite you to show me where it has been 'filtered'? My King James Bible is straight from the original earliest texts. Nothing has been 'filtered'. Even to the word 'gopher', they kept the original & did not try to change it to suit their whim, why? Because it is the Word of God! They believe it is, so they believe Revelation.22:18-19! So they would not dare 'filter' it!

You say you have studied the Bible? I think you studied it the way you wanted to study it after that teacher showed he was human & a sinner & 'let you down', I believe you studied it with the wrong intent, because your words and understanding reflects that you have no true understanding of God's Word. Your theology, translation and interpretation is way off, incorrect & manipulative. Everything you 'accuse' Christian theologians of wrongly. Atheists are not Biblical experts because they do not have proper knowledge of it, their 'knowledge' is coloured by their unbelief, they prefer the lie, over the truth, so they do not see the truth, it eludes them, all they see, is their own delusion. They translate, to suit their 'likings', rather than the truth.

You can hide this if you like, up to you, if you truly respect my opinion, you won't (but I have had it done many times, so if you do, I won't be surprised). I respect your God given free will to your opinion, your choice. This is mine.

All peace and love.

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Sc1r0n In reply to infublo [2012-04-09 04:51:23 +0000 UTC]

3rd time? Well, I can't say I don't understand you since I've watched LOTR more than 100 times

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infublo In reply to Sc1r0n [2012-04-09 07:08:57 +0000 UTC]

oh wow... yeah, that tops all of mine! but i think there are some Disney movies that are right up there.....

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Sc1r0n In reply to YuBit [2012-04-08 15:26:56 +0000 UTC]

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