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Zacharygoblin55 [2017-09-17 07:48:09 +0000 UTC]
what about raven vs scarecrow?
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cybertech02 [2016-10-27 20:40:53 +0000 UTC]
O and also ghost rider has the power to turn a Hulk back to a human so i dont fink raven has the power to kill a demon as ghost rider also he has a fakking cool motorsickle so and he cand do moor also with his cain That is very hot and on his motor he is moor faster than raven
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cybertech02 [2016-10-27 20:35:03 +0000 UTC]
Ghost rider wi he os only tak her hands and let her look in to his ayes and than is raven good as dead
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Ignition191 [2016-05-18 00:06:03 +0000 UTC]
ghost rider though it would take a while
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Tibor0803 [2015-10-22 02:16:16 +0000 UTC]
I don't know any information about Ghost Rider, I know Raven well.
This matchup just makes me hunger of information, can you provide me something I should start with to watch a show or gameplay about Ghost Rider?
Also what do you think about this matchup?
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masterofhorr [2015-08-12 11:34:46 +0000 UTC]
This isn't a stomp in my opinion. It actually can go either way. Ghost Riders stare won't work as well on Raven in my opinion, because it's primarily empathic, and Ravens empathic powers can theoretically counter it. Plus, her sins were committed mostl while under the control of her father, and the people she did it too weren't exactly innocent, so it isn't exactly her fault, much like how it [The Penace Stare] didn't work as well on the Punsiher. Ghost Rider takes it physically, even if Raven isn't a slouch. Potentionally, they are probably roughly the same. Her soul also can't really be destroyed. I declare this match undecided
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Japanfan89 [2015-07-22 16:53:02 +0000 UTC]
Ghost Rider stares into Raven's soul and discovers every sin she made, ending her.
Ghost Rider stomps (and is 1 of the few matchups Raven is at a complete disadvantage).
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Sir-Duke01 [2015-06-19 01:35:42 +0000 UTC]
sadly, ghost rider
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dannyboi367 [2015-06-17 17:31:20 +0000 UTC]
Well, Raven is the sin Pride. Ghost Rider would have a field day with her, so long as it isn't Nicholas Cage.
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EKFangoram [2015-06-15 13:37:09 +0000 UTC]
Ghost RiderΒ
Penitents stair : Raven went evil many times, doing awful things including MAGICAL RAPE
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masterofhorr In reply to EKFangoram [2016-06-15 21:37:58 +0000 UTC]
Under the control of anothe rperson
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EKFangoram In reply to masterofhorr [2016-06-16 12:33:20 +0000 UTC]
well there was just "evil Raven" which was all the evil going around making Trigon babies
then the time when she willingly joined her evil Brothers and sisters but that was a quick flip
then she spent time with Trigon and fought with him and he made a queen of of the Under - RealmsΒ
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masterofhorr In reply to EKFangoram [2016-06-16 14:35:42 +0000 UTC]
When she willingly joined her brothers, she didn't commit any sins. Β
Evil Raven is a complicated story. Β
When Β she spent time with Trigon in the New 52, she only fought other demons.
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EKFangoram In reply to masterofhorr [2016-06-16 15:27:10 +0000 UTC]
and demons can't be good
Etrigan is weeping somewhere
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masterofhorr In reply to EKFangoram [2016-06-16 15:44:37 +0000 UTC]
Etrigan isn't necessarily good himself
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EKFangoram In reply to masterofhorr [2016-06-16 18:48:43 +0000 UTC]
true but then we get into morality and the nature of the Demons in the D.C.U. and a deeper understanding of moral grey areas
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masterofhorr In reply to EKFangoram [2016-06-16 20:00:25 +0000 UTC]
Either way, especially if you bring The Under Realms into the equation, that would give Raven even more of an advantage because her soul self blocked hellfire from Belial-Etrigan's father.
And has defended herself against comparable pain. Not only that,but she always strived to atone herself. Plus, "guilty" people have survived the Penance Stare before, Deadpool and Punisher. The Deadpool one is even more relevant because he survived due to his insanity.
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EKFangoram In reply to masterofhorr [2016-06-16 21:52:27 +0000 UTC]
that atoning her self line might be the bite in the ass though
in both cases of deadpool and Punisher they see all they do as ether not for the greater good or crazy / be plot convince in human form.
both of witch would not feel remorse in any form
but Raven needing to try to atone for he deeds means that it does eat at her
looking at that angle the Penance Stair may work
is that is the case we jut need to see what would be more powerful
Marvel Hell or D.C.Β Under Realm
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masterofhorr In reply to EKFangoram [2016-06-16 22:08:11 +0000 UTC]
Raven often feels guilt, even concerning her own birth. And no, trying to atone likely would lessen the penance stare. Otherwise every time Ghost Rider looks in a mirror or at any hero it would kill them. The point is while the Penance Stare could be effective, it won't change much.
No, comparing Marvel or DC Hell wouldn't make that much of a difference.
Deadpool and the Punisher surviving is plot, but there is context that's explained and whatever else could be deduced.
Second they are not the only ones who have survived Ghost Rider's stare, innocent or otherwise.
And again, Raven was under the influence of her father and her "Father's blood".
Raven also has endured pain like the Penance Stare and can even induce a similair attack.
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Garchompisbeast [2015-06-15 08:03:28 +0000 UTC]
Ghost Rider
he can resist holy and unholy kinds of attacks and he can sense even the tiniest sin in Raven's soul and use the Penance Stare to set her soul ablaze with it
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Jose-Ramiro [2015-06-15 05:23:55 +0000 UTC]
Hard to tell; everything depends on GR's stare, and if Raven is vulnerable to it.
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apcomics In reply to Jose-Ramiro [2015-06-15 18:08:25 +0000 UTC]
Well she is only half demon & she does have a soul..... so yeah Ghost Rider's penance stare would work.... also his fire is also holy magic my nature, which helpful when fighting shadowy demonic magics.
Ghost Rider wins.
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masterofhorr In reply to Jose-Ramiro [2015-08-12 11:38:00 +0000 UTC]
Well not entirely, her soul is practically indestructible, as it is her soul self that she uses to fight. It gets shattered all the time, and it can still reform. Plus her empathic powers can theoretically counter Ghost Riders Penace Stare. Plus, Raven isn't exactly guilty of many sins because most of her victims are assholes to begin with. Much like how it didn't work on the Punisher
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NeonBlobfish In reply to masterofhorr [2016-06-15 14:37:34 +0000 UTC]
Actually, she blew up Tamaran (killing almost everyone on it) and killed the priest overseeing Nightwing and Starfire's wedding. Raven is no saint, so Ghost Rider has an advantage.
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masterofhorr In reply to NeonBlobfish [2016-06-15 20:47:49 +0000 UTC]
Again, she was in her father's control. Β Yeah the Penance Stare could work, but it would have less of an effect. Β Akin to how it hurt Deadpool and the Punisher, but couldn't finish them off. Β Plus The Penance Stare is an empathic attack, Raven has empathic powers, it's possible she could defend herself against it. Β Ghost Rider does have an advantage, but said advantage doesn't necessarily guarantee a victory.
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apcomics In reply to Jose-Ramiro [2015-06-16 18:04:51 +0000 UTC]
Well i tried to keep it brief.
I could go into detail, but seemed unnecessary.
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