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SilverBuller In reply to arely45 [2024-04-26 19:48:44 +0000 UTC]

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SilverBuller In reply to Joshadow11 [2020-05-10 01:27:39 +0000 UTC]

For one thing, the relationship felt too much like Katara was too motherly towards Aang, who was too immature and childish most of the time, not to mention he acted so possessive of her and was considerate of his feeling over hers, and was very pushy with his feelings for her. When a girl tells you she's confused and needs more time to think, you don't force a kiss on her. You don't declare a girl to be yours prior to even discussing your feelings to her. You don't selfishly put whether you get to hook up with your crush over the freakin' fate of the entire world and all the lives in it. I'd even go so far as to say his possessiveness over her is unhealthy for a relationship.

Aang and his feelings were far too immature and selfish to me, and he always had this "she's mine, back off" attitude about her, even before he made his feelings know to her. Not saying there weren't good things about it, just that they felt too incompatible, and it only happened because the writers wanted the "hero gets girl" trope. Not saying it couldn't have happened, just that it wasn't handled as well as it should have been. And Katara treated and acted like Aang was more of a little brother she needed to take care of rather than a love interest. Yeah, there were a few moments here and there throughout the series where she saw him in a romantic light, but their relationship, at least on her side, came across as more mother/older sister and son/little brother. It also felt to me like Aang was in love with the idea of loving Katara rather than her as a person, and it felt like Katara fell for him just because the writers wanted her to rather than for any real reason. It's like, she treats him like a son/sibling throughout most of the series, but then they randomly throw a romantic moment between them that feels like it comes out of left field and is only there just because. I can see Aang falling for Katara, but not Katara falling for Aang.

Really, there were only 4 romantic interest moments (if that) on Katara's part. 1) When Sokka noted that Aang was a powerful Bender, someone Aunt Wu said Katara was married, this was the first time she even considered Aang as a romantic interest, if you can even say that. 2) The Cave of Two Lovers, but this was completely one-sided on Aang's part until literally at the last second when the torch burned out where it was very randomly on Katara's part implied that they might have kissed, made extra random because Katara never once showed any romantic interest in Aang at all up to that point. 3) When they danced in the Fire Nation. This is the one and only time Katara showed any actual romantic interest and they had any chemistry at all. If there had been more of this throughout the series, then I'd probably ship them more. 4) When Aang planted a surprise kiss on her before the first invasion, leaving her shocked, but not showing any indication that she returned those feelings, not even making her blush or anything. That was it, those were the only instances on Katara's part, and the rest of the time she treated him like a little brother or even a son, before randomly having her be deeply in love with him during the last 30 seconds of the final episode. Unless Aang put her on the  spot, she never once showed any romantic interest in him whatsoever, and even those instances can be classified at being moments of discomfort because he's demanding more than what she wanted. She never even once showed any signs of jealousy towards other girls towards him, and no the episode with Unagi where he kept showing off towards the other girls doesn't count because she was irritated by how much of an attention seeker and a showoff he was being, not because she was jealous. When it comes down to it, I just can't see them as a god or realistic couple.

When I was younger, I did ship them, but as I got older and looked back (a few years after the series ended), I realized that I only shipped them solely because it was the "hero gets girl" trope, and for absolutely no other reason. When you think about it, they really don't have much going for them romance-wise. I mean, you're free to ship whoever you ship, and if you think they'd make a good couple because of their bond and interactions, that's fine, but it didn't come across as working well romantically to me. Katara had far more chemistry with Zuko, Jet, and even Haru than she did with Aang (chemistry is different than a romantic moment/mood). Quite frankly, the kiss between them at the very end felt like it would have been no different if it had been Toph she kissed instead of Aang. And again, Katara's level of maturity and stuff just felt incompatible with Aang's childishness. Yes, he did grow up, but that childish side was always there. And yeah, the creator's did say that Katara needs that innocence and childish in her life in order to cope with the bad things, but I not only felt like she could have gotten that elsewhere, but also that it felt like she would always need to "take are" of Aang because of it in a motherly kind of way. But even the way they sealed their relationship at the end, it felt like they just threw all the problems, issues, confusion, and complications out the window and just mashed them together. The last time their relation ship was addressed was when Aang confronted her during the play, and she said she didn't know and was confused because she didn't see him in a romantic light. Then suddenly, she's red in the face in love with him just because the show needed to end so they had to hurry up and force the relationship.

What more, they could have made Aang's feelings for Katara an even more integral and important part of the story. It was addressed briefly when he tried to unlock his chakras, but then that's it. Aang basically saves the world and gets everything he wants with no consequences or sacrifice, and that's not a good for a hero's journey story. They could have gone with some deep and selfless path for him deciding that he had to stop being selfish and be more mature in order to fulfill his duty by letting his feelings for her go. But nope, instead he just hits his back hard and boom, becomes all-powerful. They even took the hole issue of his morals out of the picture by randomly giving him an dues ex machina way of defeating the Fire Lord by taking away his bending because a lion-turtle randomly appeared and taught him how. It made for a cool scene, but like I said, no sacrifice and he gets everything just handed to him.

So yeah, I had a lot of problems with Kataang that I didn't notice as a child which became apparent later when I grew up and got a better understanding of what real relationships are like and how story-telling and relationships develop, and found myself not only going from a shipper to an anti-shipping, but to almost disliking the shipping. And again, I'm not saying it didn't have some good aspects to it, or that it couldn't have been good, just that the negative aspects outweighed the good, and that the relationship wasn't handled properly. It could have been, but the way it was handled, final couple endgame was not the route it should have taken. They just felt too different for a romantic relationship. And I don't mean different in the "opposites attract" kind of way, but different in the too incompatible kind of way.

Sorry for the going on so long, I didn't mean too; I'm know to ramble, and end up saying way more than I initially intended. Over all, I think people are free to ship whoever they want to ship, but I don't always agree with it.

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Supernova3Space In reply to SilverBuller [2021-06-22 16:32:33 +0000 UTC]

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Kevkane103 In reply to SilverBuller [2021-03-19 17:12:02 +0000 UTC]

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SilverBuller In reply to Kevkane103 [2021-03-19 20:20:06 +0000 UTC]

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Kevkane103 In reply to SilverBuller [2021-03-20 00:53:58 +0000 UTC]

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Joshadow11 In reply to SilverBuller [2020-05-10 05:35:31 +0000 UTC]

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SilverBuller In reply to Joshadow11 [2020-05-10 06:03:40 +0000 UTC]

I think you can ship whoever you want to, but you asked. Still a lot of it, when it comes down to it, is that Aang was to young and to9 immature to handle/have a relationship at the tome while Katara was leagues ahead of him. This is seen in his behavior, attitude, and actions. It's because of this that I can't see what the writers portrayed as "true love" to be anything realistic. But also, primarily, it comes down to I don't see Katara viewing Aang as a love interest, and her showing no interest in him except for the random forced times the writers demanded it. Almost every instance, even the ones you mentioned, really can be chalked up to platonic, though I do admit that there were signs of romance, but again, these instances feel forced when you compare the way she treated him and acts around all the other times. If I had to categorize the romance they do have, it feels like the kind you settle for simply because it feels comfortable and familiar as opposed to the deep, passionate, and really loving relationship that can be/is out there. You know, the take no chances and just stick what's safe, unpredictable, and familiar. It's a kiddy love story compared to a mature/adult love story, hence why younger audiences (myself included as a kid) shipped it, as opposed to the older audiences who see the flaws and childishness of it who don't, which is why I found myself drifting away from it as I got older.

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SilverBuller In reply to Nikki1975 [2019-06-16 03:31:28 +0000 UTC]

No, I designed it from scratch. You can use it if you provide me credit though.

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Nikki1975 In reply to SilverBuller [2019-06-30 21:18:57 +0000 UTC]

June x Zuko sounds like a weird ship to me! I mean June’s old enough to be his aunt! 

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SilverBuller In reply to Nikki1975 [2019-06-30 22:03:11 +0000 UTC]

I suppose, but there was some flirting from her, which is why I counted it. I'd guess that's she's not too much older than him, like less than 10 years.

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Nikki1975 In reply to SilverBuller [2019-07-01 00:28:37 +0000 UTC]

Yeah but Zuko with June? I just don't buy it! I will always prefer Zuko with Katara better and more realistic

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SilverBuller In reply to Nikki1975 [2019-07-01 01:00:33 +0000 UTC]

Oh, most definitely. The creators REALLY dropped the ball when they went with Kataang. Not just because Zutara was several times better, but because Aang giving up on his feelings for Katara would have been a great character arc/growth for him by being selfless and making a sacrifice (unlike his selfish decision to run away 100 years prior). Besides, that whole he unlocked his chakra by hitting his back really hard was a stupid des ex machina moment just to do the "hero gets girl" trope. Not to mention Katara's feelings for him, which had been like 98% platonic and motherly suddenly seemed sprang out of nowhere into completely in love with him during the last episode. It seemed like disservice to both characters. Besides, Zuko ad Katara had the most chemistry and the most in common throughout the whole series (possibly because Zitara was the originally planned endgame). And Zuko went through the most character growth/development than anyone in the series, even Aang.

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Nikki1975 In reply to SilverBuller [2019-07-17 02:51:34 +0000 UTC]

hey also don't you agree that Toph and Aang should've been together too?

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SilverBuller In reply to Nikki1975 [2019-07-17 06:48:38 +0000 UTC]

Oh, most definitely. Like Zuko and Katara, they balance each other out, both personality-wise and elemental-wise. And I hated what they did to Toph in Legend of Korra. Having her end up as a grouchy swamp hermit whose estranged from her children, who are each fathered by different man. Not cool.

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Nikki1975 In reply to SilverBuller [2019-07-17 07:27:38 +0000 UTC]

Ikr Definitely not cool! And also that just proves that Bryke was literally using Toph and Katara as a way of being sexist!

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SilverBuller In reply to Nikki1975 [2019-07-17 19:20:01 +0000 UTC]

Hmm, I don't know if I would call them sexist, but they definitely screwed up with a few of the female characters. Especially with Korra. I loved her going into the new series, and saw her becoming the greatest and strongest of Avatars, even more so than Aang or Roku. But as the series progressed, I found myself becoming more and for frustrated with her. She just came across as so weak, constantly getting her ass kicked over and over again by people she should have been able to defeat with no problem. There were several times where I actually screamed "Come on, you're the freakin' Avatar! Do something!"

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Nikki1975 In reply to SilverBuller [2019-07-17 21:42:06 +0000 UTC]

Do you like The Legend of Korra? Or do you prefer Avatar the Last Airbender more better?

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SilverBuller In reply to Nikki1975 [2019-07-17 22:48:17 +0000 UTC]

Avatar. Korra was good, but Avatar was better.

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Nikki1975 In reply to SilverBuller [2019-07-18 03:38:00 +0000 UTC]

I think Avatar is a hundred times better in my opinion

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Nikki1975 In reply to SilverBuller [2019-07-01 02:02:19 +0000 UTC]

OMG IKR?? Like tell me about but on another thing about the creators that i don't agree with is by the fact that how rude and disrespectful they were against the zutara shippers by using the fanart that they stole and purposely used it as an excuse to make fans laugh about how zutara was never going to happen and that kataang was the superior ship and that just makes me feel very disappointed knowing that these two immature bastards just broke my heart after i watched that video! and i honestly stopped giving respect for bryke and shouldn't even forgive him for the pain he has caused us and the fans

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SilverBuller In reply to Nikki1975 [2019-07-01 03:23:09 +0000 UTC]

Personally, I think that the writers either just aren't good at writing romance, and hence just slapped together the couples they wanted the end result to be, or they built up too much on the original endgame couple, so that by the time they changed they're mind, it was too late to make it seem believable. I'm talking in regards to both Zutara vs. Kataang and Makkora vs. Korrasami. Zutara was the original endgame, and they portrayed and built that up throughout the series, same for Makorra. So when they decided to go with Kataang and Korrasami instead, it was a little too late into the series, hence when the end result felt so rushed and out of the blue and lacked chemistry. I mean, I get that plans change throughout a series, but if you're going to make a big change like that, you can't just stick them together in the end and expect people to buy it. The only reason why Kataang and Korrasami were accepted at all were because of the shippers glorifying them so much.

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Nikki1975 In reply to SilverBuller [2019-07-01 06:20:17 +0000 UTC]

Totally Agreed with you and also would you like to talk about Zutara and Makorra in notes?

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SilverBuller In reply to Nikki1975 [2019-07-01 06:51:22 +0000 UTC]

If you want to PM me, I don't mind chatting. I'd prefer not to clutter up the comment section.

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Nikki1975 In reply to SilverBuller [2019-06-16 12:23:01 +0000 UTC]

I will! Can you give me the blank version please

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SilverBuller In reply to Nikki1975 [2019-06-16 14:22:44 +0000 UTC]

I don't have a blank version. Whenever I make a new one, I just make a copy of the old one ands paste the new images on top of it. Sorry.

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Nikki1975 In reply to SilverBuller [2019-06-16 22:24:04 +0000 UTC]

can you do it right now please? i am dying to do this meme

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SilverBuller In reply to Nikki1975 [2019-06-17 03:16:48 +0000 UTC]

Alright, give me a day or two.

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Nikki1975 In reply to SilverBuller [2019-06-17 04:12:40 +0000 UTC]

Okay? Thanks! I just wished you had the blank version of this

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SilverBuller In reply to Nikki1975 [2019-06-18 21:42:43 +0000 UTC]

I forgot to ask. Did you want a blank Avatar Shipping Meme, or a blank Shipping Meme in general?

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Nikki1975 In reply to SilverBuller [2019-06-18 23:28:58 +0000 UTC]

Avatar Shipping Meme

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SilverBuller In reply to Nikki1975 [2019-06-19 00:43:22 +0000 UTC]

Ok, it's done. Feel free to download.

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Nikki1975 In reply to SilverBuller [2019-06-19 01:28:53 +0000 UTC]

Can you do one on Voltron or Inuyasha?

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SilverBuller In reply to Nikki1975 [2019-06-19 04:36:15 +0000 UTC]

I haven't seen Voltron yet. And do you mean a blank one for Inuyasha? I already have a filled in one for it.

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Nikki1975 In reply to SilverBuller [2019-06-19 04:45:02 +0000 UTC]

Oh okay? Anyway can you please find somebody that does free stamp requests! Nobody is responding to my journal

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SilverBuller In reply to Nikki1975 [2019-06-19 07:39:12 +0000 UTC]

I honestly wouldn't know. I guess you can look up other stamps and ask the makers if they would make one, or if they could point you to someone else who will. Other than that, I don't know what to tell you.

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SilverBuller In reply to jman722 [2018-03-04 02:30:47 +0000 UTC]

I know that's a popular shipping, but when I watched the series, I didn't see anything that indicated any feelings between the two. Off the top of my head, I'd rate it an "Ok" or maybe a "Like".

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SilverBuller In reply to Starfoxfanatic4ever [2016-05-12 18:57:24 +0000 UTC]

It'd be, well, unexpected since they never showed any interest in each other. And this depends, did Sokka and Suki break up? If not, I'd be pissed and disgusted; cheaters are the worst.

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