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Published: 2010-04-30 18:52:33 +0000 UTC; Views: 27740; Favourites: 1020; Downloads: 0
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This is a re-invented piece I made from 2 photo manips I made a couple of years back. You can see in the wip
::All done in illustrator!
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ENJOY!
(Edit)
Ooh! Thank you `brgtt for suggesting to give octo Lady octo arms instead of human arms
(Edit2)
Changed the format to landscape instead of portrait. Thanks `ChewedKandi for suggestion!
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Thank you so much Shar
I forced myself to be more patient when it came to coloring, when I started to feel slightly bored or rushed I instantly shut down AI and started doing something else until I felt I was ready to pick up again where I left of 
And I agree with you on the cropping, I'm not entirely happy with it myself. I'll give your suggestion a try today
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I have to be weird: I think the cropping is perfect where it is. Just seeing exclusively these two in the middle of the picture wouldn't be enough. With what's there, it's adds mystery and subtle story line to it. 
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I really love that you're seeing the story within the drawing!
Thank you very much
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Oh! I love stories! 
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Yup, just check the bottom folder entitled, "Novel-TGQ Origins of Mercy's Redemption ".
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Oooh I did not see that! I will go check it out now
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Wow, this is truly amazing. I love how you've made both women symbolic of their counterparts. I'm in love with the octopus arms! Fantastic concept. <3
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Featured here [link]
Don't forget to click a heart
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Thank you very much for the feature! I appreciate it
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Great artwork. The enviroment looks amazing and the characters very detailed. Welldone!
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Completely unique concept. This piece adds a fresh dose of wonder to art
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no prob, keep up the good work
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I think you should have focused more on the coloring composition of this piece. It seems that by making the darker figure on top (thus making it stand out from the brighter background) and the lighter figure on the bottom (thus making it stand out from the darker background) would have functioned better. It would have brought out the characters from the background, and prevented a blurring effect when seen from a slight distance.
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But then the whole point of the light entering the dark wouldn't be there anymore 
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Yes it would. Easily would. It would actually enhance it even further because it would make all colors stand out even more. That's what contrast is about. And furthermore, a picture's "story" should never supersede, or replace composition, symbolism, or mood.
A successful illustration is one that convey as much information as possible within a time frame of about 7-8 seconds. When your colors all turn into a gradient, that is, you have whites and light colors on one side and black, dark colors on the other, it doesn't convey mood, feeling, or really anything else.
Fact is, I didn't even understand that there was a light. I didn't even know there was any significance to the light, me as an audience member is not privy to the information you have.
I guess in the end the question is: what do you want to achieve with this illustration. If you want it to be a powerful illustration, you would try to incorporate as much thought out detail as possible; what color pallets should I use, which aspects do I want to emphasize, how do I make light and shadow emphasize those things, how can I convey a story through symbolism or gesture. If you want it to be just a drawing, a doodle, that you are content with, have at it.
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Thanks for the input - but I had a specific vision on how I wanted this piece to turn out, just because I haven't contrasted the characters according to the lighting, doesn't mean I thought any less about such things
As you've taken the time to point out many things that you considered "wrong" in my drawing. I would like to take the time to point out you may want to tell people what you like about the drawing, evening this out with the wrong's you wish to inform the artist with - so your critique will actually be a critique and not seem like an attack on the artist's working process, in it's entirety
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I'm sorry, I come from an actual professional world, and in the professional world you don't get many positive critiques, if any at all. In fact, critiques are by default negative, they have to be. People who are still learning how to draw, how to illustrate, or paint, need guidance, need someone to tell them where they go wrong, they need someone to tell them how to make their artwork better in the future. dA's kindergarten like policy on criticism has created an aura of protection for it's artists, causing a lot of them to stagnate in skill for years to come. I am highly against such a policy since the very reverse is what I was used to in Art College, and the criticism I got in Art college was a hell of a lot more educational when it was only the mistakes or negative things.
You asked for critique not praise, I found the things that I believe is detrimental to a great deviation. Instead of learning from the criticism you try to defend it implying that it is part of the story.
If you feel offended by my criticism, or any criticism that doesn't involve praise for the work, please don't request it.
I apologize if what I said somehow hurt your feelings.
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Ok, I'm going to try and respond to all the points you made - and believe me when I say I'm not being defensive, just trying to show you what I think as you are trying to explain to me what you believe. That being said, here we go
I understand your vision on making the contrast more flagrant and I see, in the way you've explained it, how it would work. Although I agree that that would make the characters pop out more, it isn't what I wished to display with this drawing. The light character is descending from the light background, into the dark background where the darker character is receiving her with open arms. By switching the two characters around, that vision I wanted to show, would be completely lost. Yes, you're right - Switching the characters around would make them pop out more, but since that is not the vision I had in mind, I simply pointed this out to you. So although I appreciate your input, I cannot contemplate the idea of making the change as it would take away the vision I had in mind.
I truly did appreciate your first critique, and as far as I know, I didn't disagree with it nor did I deny your input was a bad idea, I simply stated that my concept would be lost were I to change it (I really don't care if you disagree with that) into the suggestions you've given.
What I didn't appreciate, which I then pointed out to you in my second reply, is that you are openly stating that I had no idea what I was doing. That is not critique to me. You went as far as saying that the thought I put into this drawing, wasn't there because you personally couldn't see the concept. Although I can understand this may frustrate you, it's not my fault you can't see past technical issues in order to appreciate the story - And yes, you may blame it on what you vision as a lack of thought behind color composition on my part, but I simply don't agree with you on that point
I shall continue with the last reply you've made to my second reply now.
Yes I did ask for critique, and like I said earlier, I agree with you that your vision on certain changes that could be made could indeed make the color composition pop out more. I'm going to put that aside now because it's been repeated to often.
To assume you know me is extremely incorrect on your part. How would you know whether or not I am in the "actual" professional world of art? To assume I don't understand that critique is often harsh? I wasn't offended by your critique whatsoever up until the point you decided to question whether or not I put a lot of thought in this. Because I decided, personally as the artist of this drawing, to accept your critique but not do the changes you suggested, you then implied I didn't care about the depth this piece could contain. What I do with the critique you offered, is for me to decide upon - It is not for you to question. That is why I thought I would tell you that you may want to ease down a little on pointing out the bad when critiquing a piece - Which was me trying to be polite.
When I pointed out your lack of sympathy within your offered critique, it's not because I didn't appreciate your critique or wished you'd given me praise, it's because you were rude. You may question technique on the part of an artist, but do not question the depth or a story the piece contains. If you're an artist then you very well know each piece an artist draws is important to them in one way or another - how they decided to portray this concept is up to the artist. As a critic you can question the way they decided to portray it, but you also must learn to accept that the artist may not do as you say - Because we aren't in art school here and you are not my teacher. And since you are not, I'm allowed to believe you are wrong
My feelings aren't hurt - I'm quite secure with my art. I do apologize if my way of "winging" things when doing art bothers you, as it clearly does. When I draw I prefer to let the story take over rather than worry too much over technical matters - I might change my mind sometime in the future and spend more time on technical aspects when I do a drawing. Until then, you may simply want to avoid what I create as I am quite stubborn and like to progress at my own pace - it is why I left the Art school. I would like to point out as well that this drawing is a year old already, maybe I've learned what you've critiqued already up to this point
I don't feel offended by criticism when the criticism is properly discussed. This drawing used to be in portrait format and then after it was pointed out that it was unflattering for the characters, I changed it to landscape view. It was quite a big change to make, and very strange as well as I'd been working on the piece in portrait format for hours before. So yeah, I don't get offended by critique when I believe the critique to be truly helpful. I'm sorry - I don't believe your critique to be helpful to me in this piece.
I hope it's clear that I don't disagree with your very first comment/critique in what I said in the above. I truly did see what you mean, and you are right when it comes to the contrast mention in that area. Please just accept that I do not wish to take on your suggestion and make the changes.
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"is that you are openly stating that I had no idea what I was doing." Excuse me, I don't recall every openly saying you have no idea what you are doing. Nor do I believe this. I have even went to far as to say the technical skill is there.
"How would you know whether or not I am in the "actual" professional world of art?" Because a professional would convey your vision through a better manipulation of the concepts and techniques I have listed.
Furthermore, I didn't criticize your effort, nor did I criticize your vision. I criticized you using "vision" as an excuse to do a half-ass job, which I know you could do better on.
"And since you are not, I'm allowed to believe you are wrong" Absolutely you are allowed to believe I am wrong, just as you are allowed to believe any teacher is wrong. However, what I can say is that I have experience working with artists, quite a lot of it, and as someone who HIRES artists to do work for him, I'd like to think I know a little bit on what a client (me) is looking for in a professional piece of art.
Forgive me for wrongly assuming you wanted to do more with your art than mere pass-time doodling.
What is clear to me is that you are defensive about your vision and not your technique. I'm not questioning your vision because I don't know what your vision is, I am questioning the techniques, the concepts, and the appliaction of them in your piece of art. I criticize the lack of some aspects like compositional lighting, color schemes, etc. I question your understanding of it and gave you some pointers. I can care less if you take them or not, but to use "it's not part of MY vision" as an excuse to not better your own art is a clear signifier that you simply don't care enough to do this seriously. If that is the case, I apologize for assuming otherwise.
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Well shit. There's really no way to discuss things with you normally is there... 
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hands down one my faves of yours nas! im so glad you got a dd!
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Hmm, I'm not sure how to tell you how to enhance your work. That's really up to you, and I think that's the whole great point in drawing, you can do whatever you want and let out whatever imagination you have build up in your head - so others can see it
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Wow. I never really looked at DD's and then I saw this. Very NIce.
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DD's are fun! It's a very nice -every day updated- collection to look through while drinking the morning coffee
I am glad you looked and liked!
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Haha, well, I hope many more come your way~
And thanks ^w^
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WHOAAA! how did you do that in ILLUSTRATOR?!?!
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Illustrator + tablet + pencil tool + music + coke + cigarettes - Its relatively easy once you get the habit, needs patience though.
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haha. im sure it'll take FOREVER
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omg this is amazing! I love the creatures in it. Especially the jelly fish man.
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