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Published: 2016-05-31 18:11:23 +0000 UTC; Views: 4214; Favourites: 62; Downloads: 17
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This Coat of Arms is part of a project exploring an Alternate 1920’s where WW1 never occurred and Pan-National movements are on the rise across Europe. 

In this timeline, Pan-Celticism has developed into a strong movement in the traditionally Celtic regions of the British Isles (Wales, Cornwall, Ireland, Scotland and the Isle of Mann) as well as Brittany.

The upper left quarter shows an Irish Bull.  I’ve chosen a brown bull in reference to Donn Cúailnge , the Brown Bull of Cooley, who is the subject of the early Irish Epic, The Cattle Raid of Cooley.

The upper right quarter is of course Y Ddraig Goch , the Red Dragon of Wales.

The lower right quarter shows a Manx Cat , a breed native to the Isle of Man which is famous for its lack of a tail.  I chose white for the cat’s fur as a reference to Pangur Bán , an Irish poem about a white cat named Pangur Bán, written sometime during the 9th Century AD.  

I chose a Scottish Stag for the lower left quarter.  Scotland’s traditional heraldic animal is in fact the unicorn, not the stag, but I decided to use the more Celtic stag as opposed to the Greco-Roman Unicorn.  This was partially inspired by the logo of the English Welsh & Scottish Railway , which uses the Scottish Stag alongside the Lion of England and the Dragon of Wales.

The Inescutcheon (smaller shield) is divided into two halves.  The right half represents Cornwall.   Two old Cornish families, the Vyvyans and Trevelyans, claim decent from the only survivor of the destruction of Lyonesse , who escaped on the back of a white horse.

The left half of the Inescutcheon represents Brittany, though the use of the traditional Breton colours of Black and White.  I couldn’t find any references to a symbolic animal for Brittany (if there is one please let me know in the comments) so I chose to use a fox.  This was mainly because I like foxes, but at a stretch it could be said to represent Reynard/Renart, the trickster fox from the Medieval French fables.

Notes

I haven’t so much bent the rules of heraldry here as thrown the rulebook out of the window!  There are a lot of things ‘wrong’ with this shield according the rules of heraldry, but I like the design, so I’m allowing myself to cheat with this one

This curly style of design is often referred to as Celtic, but it would probably be unrecognisable to the Pre-Roman inhabitants of Britain and Ireland.  

The term Celtic dates from the 17th Century, when a Welsh Linguist named Edward Lluyd noted the similarities between Welsh, Gaelic, Cornish and Breton.  He called these languages Celtic and the name stuck.

This Coat of Arms is a work of fiction; no political comment is made or implied.

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Comments: 23

Kintetsubuffalo [2016-09-13 15:43:36 +0000 UTC]

Can you render these separately? They're beautiful!

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SteamPoweredWolf In reply to Kintetsubuffalo [2016-09-18 06:03:42 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, I'll see what I can do, watch this space  

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Kintetsubuffalo In reply to SteamPoweredWolf [2016-09-19 19:57:25 +0000 UTC]

They're great, thanks!

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SteamPoweredWolf In reply to Kintetsubuffalo [2016-09-20 16:46:45 +0000 UTC]

No probs, glad you like them. Any more requests, send them over and I'll have a look.

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konstantinpalailogos [2016-06-01 17:30:11 +0000 UTC]

It would've maybe been unusual to those of the pre-Roman era, but the sub-Roman and after in Celtic lands showed a great propensity for interlace and knots, as did their Germanic neighbors in England and across the sea, so it's not too out of place.

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SteamPoweredWolf In reply to konstantinpalailogos [2016-06-03 22:15:22 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, I'm glad it's not stretching the truth too much…

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Arminius1871 [2016-06-01 06:21:16 +0000 UTC]

Awww looks awesome with the celtic knots animals!

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SteamPoweredWolf In reply to Arminius1871 [2016-06-03 22:14:15 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, glad that you liked it  

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Arminius1871 In reply to SteamPoweredWolf [2016-06-04 15:16:21 +0000 UTC]

Oh yes a lot^^

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Gouachevalier [2016-05-31 19:13:52 +0000 UTC]

Well, the Bretons seem to have a fondness for the ermine fur pattern, and several Dukes of Brittanny used the stoat as their badge, so I'd go with that, personally.

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SteamPoweredWolf In reply to Gouachevalier [2016-06-03 22:13:15 +0000 UTC]

Interesting, thanks for that, I was really struggling to find a heraldic animal for Brittanny.

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Todyo1798 In reply to Gouachevalier [2016-05-31 20:03:18 +0000 UTC]

You could probably pass that fox as a stoat anyway.

I rather like this design, it's a good expansion on my original suggestion of a Gaelic bull and a Dragon for the Britons.

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SteamPoweredWolf In reply to Todyo1798 [2016-06-03 22:18:03 +0000 UTC]

I'm really glad you like it, sorry that it took so long.  It was a lot of fun to make.

Planning on starting work on a Pan-Saxon coat of arms (another of your good ideas) soon - watch this space... 


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Todyo1798 In reply to SteamPoweredWolf [2016-06-04 20:13:49 +0000 UTC]

Ah no worries, this is your own project after all.

Also have you any ideas of doing claim maps for the various movements? You're a skilled cartographer yourself but I'd offer my services to draw up some basic maps if you'd like.

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SteamPoweredWolf In reply to Todyo1798 [2016-06-05 20:56:27 +0000 UTC]

I have indeed thought of doing some maps for the various movements.  I’d be open to collaborating if you like?

 

I’d see a collaboration working something like this:

 

    1)      Swap some ideas back and forth

    2)      Draw up some basic maps

    3)      Swap map designs back and forth until we were happy

    4)      Post maps on both our profiles and link to the other

 

Does that tally with what you were thinking of?

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Todyo1798 In reply to SteamPoweredWolf [2016-06-06 11:02:22 +0000 UTC]

More or less yes. Though I would suggest that we post alternate designs. I'm good at basic maps with a shit tonne of notes, you do very good stylistic maps. So I'd say we work out what borders we wish to use and design our maps off of what we're best at.

I was also thinking that the final map would show how everyone's claims conflict with each other, as an emphasis of how fucked it all is.

How does that all sound?

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SteamPoweredWolf In reply to Todyo1798 [2016-06-07 18:07:07 +0000 UTC]

A good plan, happy with that.  Do you want to start off by making some basic maps of the borders?

Plenty of conflicting claims in the final map...

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Todyo1798 In reply to SteamPoweredWolf [2016-06-07 19:42:27 +0000 UTC]

Yes I'll get to it, I need to use my old laptop though since GIMP is terrible on my new one

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J-LE7 In reply to SteamPoweredWolf [2016-06-03 22:32:03 +0000 UTC]

The stoat, or ermine (hermine in French), is the "totemic animal" of Brittany, as you can see mentionned 3 times (supporters, d'hermine plain fur and motto in Breton) here:

(Composition of mine.)

But a stylized fox do it well.

As you said, you more than "bent" the heraldic rules with the choice of colours.
Moreover, I read somewhere (Scottish heraldic society I think) that knotworks were not allowed in heraldry.
But at the end, it's artit's choice, right?

Btw,  already made Saxon stuff here: Kingdom of all Saxons .


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SteamPoweredWolf In reply to J-LE7 [2016-06-05 20:51:37 +0000 UTC]

Not so much ‘bent’ the rules of heraldry with the colours and knotworks as thrown the rulebook out of the window…into a deep pit…which was full of lava…you get the idea

Thanks for the information that the Stoat/Hermine is the "totemic animal" of Brittany, it was really bugging me that I couldn’t find out what it was!

’s excellent work looks to be set in the early middle ages, while my planned work will take place in an alternate 1920’s.  Hopefully mine will be different enough that I won’t look like ’s echo (which would be too easy) or his competitor (which would be both difficulty and presumptuous).

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Arminius1871 In reply to SteamPoweredWolf [2016-06-06 06:16:21 +0000 UTC]

Haha don´t worry even if it is similar and u do it in your own style all is fine^^

We could´ve even made a collaboration if I knew you´re into that^^

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SteamPoweredWolf In reply to Arminius1871 [2016-06-07 18:10:24 +0000 UTC]

I'd be extremly impressed if you knew I was into Pan-Saxonism - I didn't know myself until a chance conversation with sparked my imagination

We've just agreed to do a collaboration as part of my current project, but if you're interested, I'd be very happy to collaborate in future.

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Arminius1871 In reply to SteamPoweredWolf [2016-06-08 06:52:04 +0000 UTC]

Lol todyo hates me, I can´t remember the exact conversation but he called me sth. like an evil nationalist
so it was blocked XD

Saxon > Anglo XD

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