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Description For this map, which began as a request from AH.com user Stuyvesant, I tried out some new styles and ideas, most of which were inspired from the mapmaking greats. Specifically, these two maps: . They are both far better mapmakers than I, but hopefully you will enjoy this map as well.

The story of this map begins with a point of divergence in the late 1760s. For multiple reasons, the American Revolution as we know it never occurs, though a revolution does indeed happen. Instead of seceding from Great Britain as one nation, the 13 colonies (in this world, also joined by Canada) fight a war to reform the British government's handling of the colonies and end the tyranny and oppression over them. After a hard war, the revolution succeeds with backing by the Whigs in Great Britain, who help change the status of the North American colonies for good.

The 13 colonies, along with Vermont and Canada, are organized into a new sort of colony: the United States of America. This colony greatly resembles the dominions of our own world, with each "state" electing its own leaders except for royal officials and the King of Great Britain himself, who resides over all. The United States itself is a very loose organization of all the former colonies, most of which form their own nation-states except for the Crown Colonies in Florida and Newfoundland. The United States government only has power on interstate trade and taxing, interstate military matters (such as organizing the military when Great Britain goes to war), and other large bureaucratic needs such as those. The day-to-day running of the states falls to their own governments, such as in New York.

New York held a great advantage from the start, especially after being granted the Ontario peninsula after a surge in pro-New York pride among many of the royalist fighters in the American Revolution. New York also began as one of the most populous states, and continued that trend throughout its history. While starting out powerful did indeed help, the most important aspect of New York's history, however, was the opening of the Erie Canal in 1824 with help of British Royal Engineers. The Erie Canal rapidly increased transport across New York and made New York City the dominant centre of trade in North America, as goods from many nations of the United States flowed on the Great Lakes and down the Erie Canal. New York City surpassed the previous giant, Boston, in greatness and splendour throughout the 19th century, and by the dawn of the 20th it had become the largest city in North America and the second-largest city in the British Empire proper after London.

Rail travel quickly became the most popular medium of transport in New York during the late 19th century, and continues on to the current date of the map, 1948. Railroads connected New York City and Albany to the growing cities to the west, such as Rochester, Buffalo, Toronto, Tyron, and Kingston. With these growing cities, more often than not bolstered by the many immigrants who sought land and fortune in New York, there came a rise of a counter-culture to the traditional New Yorker culture. This would eventually split New York into two dominant socio-political groups: the Lakers and Hudsonians.

The most well-known of the New Yorkers in the outsider world are the Hudsonians, who, naturally, mostly live along the Hudson. Their area is typically defined to stretch from Long Island up to the Capital District of Albany. Their largest cities are New York City, Albany, and Brooklyn, but even those not in the cities are never far from one. The Hudsonian culture is a cosmopolitan one, resembling more the culture of Paris or Berlin than London due to high-class ideas and styles prevalent throughout every social class. Their art and politics tend to lean progressive and explosive, and the debates held in New York City and Brooklyn are legendary for their ferocity. Due to its dominance in the nation, New York City (sometimes paired with rival city Brooklyn) is often the face of New York, and from it comes much of New York's world-renowned art, literature, radio plays, and music.

The Lakers, meanwhile, are seen as the "back-country" or "rural" culture of New York, despite the presence of large cities of their own. The area of the Lakers is not as well-defined, but it typically refers to NewΒ  Yorkers in the provinces bordering the Great Lakes, particularly Lake Erie and Lake Ontario, but can extend inland as well. These people are typically more old-style conservative and easy-going in their politics and art. If Hudsonians are Realists, Lakers are Romantics, and their way of life shows. Lakers tend to look down upon upper-class displays of wealth and "high culture" instead trending toward working class ideals, media, and ways of life, even in the large cities. Since the economic boom of the 1930s, more and more of the Lakers live in cities rather on farms, but they have taken their values with them. Though not as world-renowned, the Lakers produce many great works of art, literature, music, and radio play in their own right, much of which is popular in North America while the Hudsonian media is popular in Europe.

Together, the two cultures blend into a rich and deep socio-political way of life in the nation of New York, which has helped make it the most wealthy and lively of the nations that make up the United States. Though sometimes looked down upon for being made up of Anglophiles by the more independent New England and Virginia, New York has benefited from its close relationship to London with cooperation and economic help during times of trouble. Since the Great War in Europe, the United States has become increasingly powerful from their support of the British Empire, becoming an arsenal of British democracy. However, this has also opened up many new avenues to the United States, as they are rapidly becoming the tail that wags the dog, something of concern and interest to the royal government in London. Only time will tell where the road will lead, but it will undoubtedly be New York who will lead the way.
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JRBeeler [2020-09-05 09:49:02 +0000 UTC]

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RedAmerican1945 [2017-01-31 21:15:53 +0000 UTC]

Sheds a tear of joy, now we just need to invade vermont and well be good.

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subspaceteatime In reply to RedAmerican1945 [2017-01-31 23:01:24 +0000 UTC]

New York Uber Alles!

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BadgingBadger [2016-08-18 00:47:15 +0000 UTC]

I boldly suppose that a PoD for this scenario would be Frederick II of Prussia inheriting the british throne. Some butterflies flap their wings and voilΓ‘, semi-independent USA-analogue.
I've been reading Nick Griffalco's descriptions for the flags he made for your scenario back in Flag Thread IV, and i wanted to know if Mexico still has California and Texas.

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subspaceteatime In reply to BadgingBadger [2016-08-25 18:32:33 +0000 UTC]

Mexico has California, Texas, New Mexico, and stretches all the way to the Pacific Northwest.

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BadgingBadger In reply to subspaceteatime [2016-08-25 21:02:03 +0000 UTC]

Pacific northwest? But i saw a flag of Oregon on the requests you made...

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subspaceteatime In reply to BadgingBadger [2016-08-25 21:04:19 +0000 UTC]

Parts of the Pacific Northwest, particularly the state we know as Oregon today. The state of Oregon ITTL encompasses the rest of the "Oregon Country" region that is western Idaho, Washington State, and southern British Columbia.

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BadgingBadger In reply to subspaceteatime [2016-08-25 23:40:41 +0000 UTC]

Oh.

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Zomg420 [2015-08-08 10:36:01 +0000 UTC]

Confederated States of America? What's that ATL CSA?

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subspaceteatime In reply to Zomg420 [2015-08-08 18:09:24 +0000 UTC]

It's an alt-CSA in name only, seeing as it's a union of Pennsylvania, Delaware, New Jersey, and territory in the northern part of the Northwest Territory that abolished slavery in the 1790s. Still, I couldn't resist the idea to use the name.

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dramaboy [2015-01-27 03:04:27 +0000 UTC]

Not sure if my family is in New York or Canada. They are from south of Ottawa.

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subspaceteatime In reply to dramaboy [2015-01-27 03:15:21 +0000 UTC]

In this case probably New York, since Canada is more French in this world.

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NomadicSky [2014-12-28 07:18:31 +0000 UTC]

I think its a rather nice map, much better than anything I'd have done. I'm not sure how these textured maps that look like they really came out of history books came from. All I have are old edited maps from the Encarta with paintbrush. I could really see this map someplace.

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subspaceteatime In reply to NomadicSky [2014-12-28 07:31:07 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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nanwe01 [2014-12-03 10:08:02 +0000 UTC]

Toix, I remember when you were asking for advice about making the map for your TL. That map was already really good, but this is gorgeous, you're excellent at this.Β 

I actually have something to ask you about this map, how di dyou give it the brown/old map effect it's got?

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subspaceteatime In reply to nanwe01 [2014-12-03 17:28:10 +0000 UTC]

Well thank you, that means a lot coming from you. With the map effect, I first had the brown colors already on the map itself, and t hen I put the map on GIMP. Then, I grabbed a rough texture and pasted it as a layer above the map, set that layer to "Multiply" and then lowered the transparency of the texture layer until I got what you see above. It's a neat little trick.

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nanwe01 In reply to subspaceteatime [2014-12-04 16:29:28 +0000 UTC]

Oh stop, you're gonna make me blush . Thanks for the info! Well, I did have GIMP so I'll look it up, but do you apply after converting the map to PNG? Also, where do you find the textures? Because, usually I have a hard time with that. It is, definitely.

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subspaceteatime In reply to nanwe01 [2014-12-04 19:35:23 +0000 UTC]

Yes, the map has to be a PNG first, and be in its own layer on GIMP. As for the textures, I usually do a Google Image Search for "paper textures" or "map textures". Though, this texture was actually in a pack I bought a while back just so I'd have textures for maps.

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KantiaCartography [2014-11-19 01:03:44 +0000 UTC]

YAAAAAAASSS!!! In more than one of my most recent maps (most of which never make it to DA) an independent New York has received southern Ontario, although very few people have featured such a change, sadly enough. In my most recent New York map, an independent New York agreed to relinquish its claim to the independent Republic of Vermont, which is subsequently annexed to New England, in exchange for all of New England's claim's in Pennsylvania and the Midwest.

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zalezsky [2014-11-17 10:37:20 +0000 UTC]

my city was burned to the ground in ontario apparently

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subspaceteatime In reply to zalezsky [2014-11-17 16:35:36 +0000 UTC]

And which city is that?

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zalezsky In reply to subspaceteatime [2014-11-17 16:38:58 +0000 UTC]

Kitchener/Waterloo it's on the grand river

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subspaceteatime In reply to zalezsky [2014-11-17 16:43:27 +0000 UTC]

Well the problem is that Kitchener was initially established by giving land to the Six Nations/Iroquois in exchange for all the help they gave to the British in the American Revolution. But in this world, the American Revolution was only meant to change the British government and all the colonies remained loyal to the crown, so it'd be unlikely for the British government to give the Six Nations land in that area or for loyalists to settle there since the loyalists can just stay where they were because all of the colonies were still under the King of Britain.

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zalezsky In reply to subspaceteatime [2014-11-17 16:47:32 +0000 UTC]

wow you know your shit about Waterloo surprising! And pretty cool idea you've got too

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Sapiento [2014-11-17 06:33:52 +0000 UTC]

Well done!

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bruiser128 [2014-11-17 02:05:27 +0000 UTC]

Really fascinating world you created here. Kudos Amigo^^.Β 

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RvBOMally [2014-11-17 01:20:58 +0000 UTC]

World map soon?

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subspaceteatime In reply to RvBOMally [2014-11-17 01:28:18 +0000 UTC]

I can't do world maps for all of these. Although, you may be happy to learn, I will actually be doing a North America map for this universe to show off the rest of the United States plus superpower Mexico.

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