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is just a super nice person and a lot of fun to talk to.This is a present for you!
I love Azula. Avatar has a lot of really kickass characters, but Azula is just freaking amazing as far as the complexity of her personality. There's just something about someone so driven and cunning that is fasinating.
Anywho, I wanted to draw her looking a bit softer and relaxed but still show her personality. I think I should have made her mouth a bit harder, but maybe next time. XD
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This is copic marker and multiliner with color pencil.
Ref pic for pose was from an old issue of Stuff.
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Nana:
I love Azula too. I was sad when she went insane and cut her hair.
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Are ya kidding!? That's the best part!
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Yeah, it was that too X3
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I loved her hair. But that breakdown was so...amazing. I was shocked that they went that far in a kids show and totally impressed.
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Beautiful coloring, you're really talented 
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Thank you! She's one of my fav characters. XDD
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Azula and Zuko hold a special place in my heart
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Hm. I like to think that this might be what Azula would look like if she grew up under normal circumstances, without the war and without her father taking Iroh's place on the throne. She looks softer, friendlier.
I was a bit thrown to see the curve of her breasts there, though--because of how she's normally garbed, it took me a second to realize that yeah, if her shoulder armor weren't so big, she'd have breasts. Huh. I suppose she deemphasizes them on purpose.
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Thank you so much!
I was trying to draw her softer and relaxed but keep her intensity. It had mixed results. *laughs*
Hehe, I use a lot of girly mags for poses. Azula's breasts are more defined than usual and I think that's part of it.
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Heh, coming back to this one to read your reply made me realize just how much I like this one. There's just something about it--people always draw her so spiteful and angry, but I don't think that she's like that at all. She's certainly cunning and ambitious--even malicious at times--but I think deep down, she just wants her father's approval, desperately. Showing a more pacific side of her is great. Favorited.
Oh, so her breasts are based on the model you used for the drawing? Well, on reflection I think I might rather like it. They're still proportionate and all, even if they're more defined and there's just an elegance in how she's still fully clothed, but allows herself to be seen as feminine for once and that it's *okay* to be a girl. It's like she tries so hard to avoid being seen as weak that she doesn't realize that being a girl doesn't make her weak. There's something subtle and understanted about it. I think the colors are my favorite part of this, but after thinking about it, her breasts might be the second--just because they're not drawn for fanservice or anything, just that they're there and she's okay with it. For once.
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Azula is one of my all time favorite characters. I always thought she was awesome but during the finale, when she had her breakdown, I was just blown away. It really highlight how insecure and fragile she is. I mean it really brought to light that through everything she's still a 14 yo girl who never was sure how her mother felt toward her.
Yeah, I toned down her breasts a lot from the ref cause the pic was pretty fanservicey XD, and I didn't want that.
I'm glad you like the colors! They were really fun. ^_^
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Mine too. She's definitely my favorite on the show--the most complex, really. As much as I like Katara, Toph, and Iroh for their personalities, Azula is just more fascinating by leaps and bounds.
I'm not sure I liked the *degree* to which she completely broke down, but you're absolutely right about how it shows her insecurity. She was deeply bothered by her mother, and consequently went the complete opposite direction in ensuring she had the total devotion of her father, and she pushed herself far too hard and sacrificed any normal sense of human relations in the process.
This is a great discussion we're having. Most of my friends hate Azula or think she's an overly pampered princess, so it makes it difficult to really discuss her as a character. Thank you for this.
As for toning down her breasts, heh, you definitely made the right choice there. People tend to forget just how young she is, and how athletic she is too. She wouldn't have gigantic breasts, and I suspect she wouldn't *want* to have them. How bad/fanservicey was the reference?
Yeah, the colors just... I don't know, they communicate the whole sense of the drawing, y'know? I just now noticed the background is BLUE, which is perfect, but it's a peaceful blue--I mean really, her blue fire is bright and colorful--it should, in a better world, have some warmth to it (no pun intended). And then the purple and the red of her outfit, and how it complements her casual, relaxed, and almost playfully feminine pose... lol, I could go on and on about this piece of art. You have no idea how much I love it. You've done a really remarkable thing here.
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Hahaha, so I didn't get to finish my comment before cause my lunch break was ending. XDD
The ref was pretty darn fanservicey. If i recall correctly the girl was just posing in her underwear (maybe a bikini, I forget)
I went with a warmer blue for a better, brighter contrast and used her first outfit because the season 3 one was just too dark for what I wanted.
I'm really glad you like it! People's reactions always surprise me. It's even done well when I've sold it cons! XD Which has been nice since it's one of my favs.
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*grins* I'm enjoying this discussion too! Most of the comments I get are "that's my fav chara!" or "Good job!" Don't get me wrong I love all those and get warm fuzzies, but a good conversation is much rarer.
Azula just sucked me in from the beginning. It would have been so easy for her to become just another cliche villian, but she took on a life of her own and is just amazing. I'm really nervous about the next Airbender movie. They did such a poor job with the easy characters, i'm afraid of what they will do with Azula.
I actually liked the degree that she broke down. Very fine steel is also very brittle and people are often the same way. The more control you have and keep on yourself the harder it is on you when you loose it. The end where she is just weeping felt very real to me. <3
Azula never struck be as being pampered. She pushes herself too hard for that. She takes what she feels is due to her but lacks the love of indulgence that someone who is spoiled has.
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I don't even think I know *how* to be brief when it comes to commenting. It's just not in my nature, I suppose.
Now, I haven't seen the film and I really don't plan to. I'm glad they only covered Book I, and I hope they never get studio backing to continue onward, because I just don't want to see Azula completely ruined. I mean, maybe it'd be nice to see how they'd do her costume with a big movie budget, but that's... really about it.
Well. Yes, she would be brittle--but then, steel cracks and warps, it doesn't shatter. That's the difference--she didn't just break, she completely lost it. A little paranoia would have been fine, losing her edge would have been fine, stressing out would have been fine. Screaming at her ladies in waiting and completely dismissing everyone from the Palace? ridiculous. And then her hair... what did she do to her hair?!
I agree, Azula isn't pampered--she's worked for her position. Although I think the idea is that she's had advantages and was consequently given the opportunity to rise further than most people would. But then, so what? It's like her speech to the Dai Li--she was born to rule, and she knows it.
Ahh, *that* kind of fanservice. Yeah, I can't see Azula posing in her underwear, I really can't. I can't even seeing her let anyone see her in it, considering how even when she's asleep, she wears this voluminous robe. Heck, even her swimsuit in the Beach episode was pretty conservative. She doesn't strike me as the sort of person to show much skin at all. I am not sure why--earlier I might have said that it was to disguise her feminity, but then thinking of the ladies in waiting reminded me about how she does go for manicures and all that. Although that may just be a cultural thing; she's royalty, so she's well-groomed. Zuko had the little FN hairpin too, after all.
Heh, I was recently rewatching some of the older episodes. I actually prefer the season 3 outfit because I like the gold trimming (and especially the gold FN hairpin), but the way you set up the colors on this one, I almost want to change my mind. Her original outfit is definitely more half-armor, half-robe whereas the season 3 stuff is definitely war armor. Although from looking back at season 2, I think her top chestplate still covered most of her torso regardless, so I'm glad your interpretation actually allows her breasts to peek from underneath. It's just a softer, more feminine Azula and I like that. I prefer to think that regardless of how serious and driven she is, there's still some private time that she likes for herself where she can just relax and enjoy herself. We just never really see it in the show, except for glimpses in season 3 (like the bit with the robes).
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XD Yeah, avoid the movie, and unless they replace the director avoid the others as well.
I dunno. I could totally see her banishing everyone. She was more shaken by Mai and Ty Lee than she let on (or ever imagined she would be) and without her dad there she must have felt completely alone for the first time. With people like Azula and Ozai paranoia is a survival trait. Being constantly on the look out for betrayal and traps is how they maintain power. However, that mindset brings it's own downfall. It doesn't take much for it to sprial out of control and see things that aren't there. Being betrayed by the people closest to her must have prepped her mind for thinking that the father she idolizes is using her. I mean, she helped him use Zuko and knows that Ozai is not above disposing of his children when they are no long useful to him.
Cutting her hair off mad me sad! I loved her hair! XD
I can see the luxuries of the palace being seen as totally normal. Being raised with ladies to wash her hair and file her nails from an early age and taught that as a princess she is born to this makes it less pampering and more birthright. In many societies not being able to dress yourself or do other basics was a sign of nobility. (so was being ignorant of how money worked and such)
Her season 3 outfit is my fav too. I thought it really fit how her character and the story was progressing. However it had way too much black for what I wanted. I like really bright, saturated colors and thought that blue and red would but best. I agree with you about Azula and fanservice. I think she would feel exposed and vulerable. That would be entirely out of character for her. Someday I could see her being comfortable with herself and even using her femininity as a tool to get what she wants, but not until she is much, much, older.
*sighs* I wish they would make a spin-off or two. There's so much story left.
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Paranoia is certainly a survival trait, but banishing everyone is such a complete and utter overreaction. Obviously she had her confidence shattered, having expected that she would make people utterly hers and never anticipating they could possibly choose someone else over her... but it just seemed so sudden, and so overdone.
Yes, ruining her hair was a disaster but that, at least, wasn't unexpected--you're right in that she'd have people to do her hair for her, to bathe her, to dress her, to put her makeup on, etc. It's a wonder she managed to do any of that after dismissing her entire staff...
Yeah, it does have a great deal of black, and wouldn't have worked with the color scheme. Still. I miss at least the gold hairpin.
Hm, do you really think she'd feel exposed and vulnerable? I was thinking more that she didn't have any talent for seduction--at least, the physical sort--and so she would just be rather awkward and out of her element. Do you think that she'd really feel all that exposed, though? I mean, I suppose she doesn't really even let her guard down in the palace, and still wears a big robe--but she did wear that swimsuit at Ember Island. It's just that she doesn't know how to be sexy, so she doesn't try to wear anything revealing like Ty Lee does.
Well, you heard the announcement for the next series, yes? It probably won't focus too much on the old characters, though. It's a shame.
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I can see the banishing as a "get them before they get you" move. It starts with one person and then just spirals as she gets more and more stressed and uncertain. After she hits a tipping point it's all lost.
I loved the gold hair pin. I was actually surprised when I was checking my refs to find that the first one was red. XD
Yes, at 14 with puberty and all, I think she would feel very exposed. Dressing in a swimsuit is very different (mentally) than being in you underclothes. I think with her skills of manipulation she'll have a huge talent for seduction if it suited her. I just don't think most times she would need to use it.
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Well, I guess. It's just that I would imagine betrayal would want to make one find more reliable associates or something of that nature, rather than dismiss them all and become well and truly alone--because isn't that the real problem with treachery, the sense of being all alone, of having nobody to rely on?
Yeah, I'm used to the red one since that's what we saw her in for that whole year during season 2 and afterwards. Even so, still greatly prefer the gold one--it's just more regal.
Well... I don't know. Aren't younger kids more careless about these sorts of things? I mean, look at what they walk around in these days. I guess I'm just having trouble imagining Azula feeling exposed and vulnerable, even in her undies. Now, that's not saying that she'd ever do a fanservicey pose--of course she wouldn't, but do you really think she'd be frightened? I doubt she'd even wear the kind of underwear that would even make her feel all that exposed, really. I don't know...
Well, that's the thing. She's already at the top, as far as things go. She doesn't need to use seduction, because she doesn't really have any superiors to seduce. Any manipulation--like with Long Feng or whatever his name was--could be done solely on the basis of power. I would wonder if she really knows how to seduce, given how poorly she was with the boys on Ember Island.
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When you are betraying by the people you trust most it's shaking to the core. For someone like Azula trusting people is nearly impossible regardless. Mai and Ty Lee changing sides for the reasons they did really threw her. With her dad leaving her she must have been scared that she was suddenly a pawn. She even told him that she wasn't Zuko. There was no one left for her to trust in the palace.
Younger kids dress differently now because they want to be seen as adults sooner. Being provocative is a way for them to do that. Being dressed as she was in the beach ep is different because everyone else is dressed that way too and it's the appropriate attire for that situation. Being dressed in something you normally wear under other clothing is different psychologically. The sense that it's something normally covered never goes away.
At 14 I think she would be nervous. Wheather she let's that show is another matter.
Flitting and seduction are learned behaviors. She's not old enough to have really tried much. I can only see her using it as a tool if she didn't have the upper hand. I don't see her not having the upper hand though. XDD
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Did she really trust Mai and Ty Lee? Mai noted that she followed Azula out of fear, and Azula had no problems sabotaging Ty Lee in order to convince her to join the mission. I think she views them as tools and nothing more. Why would she trust them?
Well, doesn't Azula want to be seen as an adult, as well? She's not exactly childlike, and she's always been mature for her age.
As far as the beach episode... maybe. But then again, she hasn't ever just tried to be like everyone else, you know? In fact, she tries to hold herself above them. Yet despite all that, she felt fine wearing her most revealing outfits there.
I suppose I don't really see the difference between that outfit and underwear if they reveal the same things. In fact, I highly doubt she even wears underwear as revealing as her swimsuit.
And besides, what about agni kai? Those are done shirtless, and the Fire Nation has unigendered military traditions. So wouldn't that throw the whole feeling vulnerable/nervous thing out the window?
Yeah, she's bad at flirting--really bad. As hard of a worker as she is, she's used to people just fawning over her because of who she is. I can't see her actually being in a position where she needs to use her feminine wiles to get what she wants, mostly because she's always conscious of who she is, and so is everyone else.
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Let me clarify a bit. Azula is a sociopath. Nothing really wrong with that, it's just how she is. It's more common than most people expect. You are correct in thinking that she sees people as tools. But she expects loyalty even though she doesn't return it. It's a double standard but that's just how they think. The betrayal of Mai and Ty Lee was an unexpected slap in the face. I think that they were really friends and did enjoy each other's company. Mai's comment seemed to mean more that she loved Zuko more than she was afraid of Azula's anger.
Being seen as an adult because you have an adult's grasp and control on a situation is much different than being seen as a sexually mature adult. What wears at the beach was no more or less revealing that what was worn by her age's peer group. She does stand out, but that's always seemed to me as more her power of personality than clothing. Even if her actual underwear is less revealing than her swimwear, it doesn't change the fact that people are socially conditioned to feel the need to hide it. To be undressed in front of someone is to delibrately be exposed. I just think that isn't something Azula would be comfortable doing for a few more years.
XD Male and female toplessness have never been on the same level of acceptibility. Not even with the Minoan open-bodice fashion trend.
Hehehe, I loved watching Azula flirt. She was so out of her element. It was nice to seen her as a akward teenager for a bit. I can't see her staying that way though. I also can't see her being above flirting or seducing to get what she wants should the unlikely situation come up where it would play to her advantage.
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She definitely has many sociopathic tendancies, as well as deep familial issues that will never go away. It's just that she's always been so cool and in control--even though she expects asymmetrical support from her friends, I can't see her breaking down from what amounts to (in her mind, at least) a change of allegiances. I can see her being dramatically shaken, certainly, as well as losing her edge--but it went beyond that, didn't it? She was genuinely nuts by that point.
I do understand that sexual maturity and intellectual maturity are two throughly different things, but the point was that the latter can inform the former and mitigate deficiences in that area. I just really don't see her modeling her self-image, much less her physical comfort, on that of her chronological peer group if only because they're not her social peer group. She would have no reason to base her responses to things based on how other people her age acted, especially as she's completely disconnected from them. Wearing thoe revealing clothes at the beach seems to suggest some level of comfort with them.
Yes, there is the matter of social conditioning when it comes to underwear, but that's different when there's less of a pervasive shame influence. Azula, as we noted earlier, probably doesn't dress herself. She's probably seen undressed by a good number of servants, not just ladies in waiting, and that's par for the course because royalty cannot be shamed by the eyes of their lessers. I can't see her having the same reaction to her own nudity as some middle-class contemporary girl might, for instance.
As far as Agni Kai--no, they haven't been on the same level of acceptability but neither have men and women worn the exact same things. The Fire Army features completely unisex armor, and there's no way to tell someone is a woman unless they speak. Given the ritualized aspect of the Agni Kai, I find it difficult to believe that they'd change things for women in that specific area if they don't even do it for army uniforms. And she's had to have fought in one before, so...
I think it was an interesting episode, but something seemed a little off. I find it hard to believe that a princess wouldn't be skilled in the social graces, especially if these youths are also members of the nobility. There's a certain je ne sais quoi with being in the aristocracy that makes gentility and manners seem almost second nature. Inexperience with flirting I can see, but the sheer, almost nerdy bumbling that she exhibited... it just didn't seem to fit. But then that whole episode seemed almost like parody, to be honest.
But you really think she'd flirt or seduce to get her way? Really? How would she accomplish that, though, if she's so completely oblivious about using her wiles?
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I think that the stress and paranoia was interefering with her sleeping which can cause various halucinations (mostly auditory). I don't think she was actually insane, but I do think that she had a psychotic break. You can recover from those and be just fine provided you deal with the issues that triggered it.
Being comfortable with your body and being comfortable with someone seeing it the way a lover would are very different. Perhaps the reason I think she would feel exposed is because she doesn't strike me as an exhibitionist. You're right in that she wouldn't feel shame in the eyes of her lessers (in fact as a sociopath she won't feel shame or guilt really at all) I think the core of the discomfort and vulerability would stem from the unfamiliarity of it. Azula reacts badly to uncertainty.
I still don't think that women fight agni kai topless. The four nations have fairly conservative dress. Maybe they fight wearing a form of binding, but not with the girls exposed. XDD
I don't think the other kids in the beach ep are nobility. Weathly certainly but not ranked very high. There is no way that a noble wouldn't recognise Zuko on sight. Azula maybe. She was dressed different, without her usual entourage, and not being addressed by her title; but Zuko has that distinctive scar. Even partly hidden by his hair it's unique enough to identify him imediately.
I think the social graces Azula was schooled in were more millitant than diplomatic. Azula met the boys on equal terms and tried to keep it there for most of the ep. Probably just out of curiousity. It seemed like such a normal thing to do. I really liked it because it showed a different aspect of her personality without feeling out of character. The fact that she failed so badly at it highlighted how young she is, which is something I often find myself forgetting during the more serious moments of the show.
Genuine flirting is very different from seducing someone for gain. I can see her carefully calculating the target's reaction and using their desire to control them. To promise something she doesn't plan to deliver and making someone dance to her tune is very like her. Long Feng desired power so she offered him an alliance and behaved in a way that let him draw his own errorous conclusions. I see it as a logical progression of her tactics and personality. She's an opportunist and a manipulator. She's willing to do whatever she needs to reach her goal. Azula is going to be as beautiful as her mother. Beautiful women have their own power. I don't think it will be long before she learns to use that.
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Well, an exhibitionist gets thrills from exposing their body, yes? I'm not saying she would--of course not, it'd be far from it. But being nervous about being exposed is the complete opposite from exhibitionism. And I just can't see someone ike her being discomforted or vulnerable by it, especially since she regularly puts herself in new and dangerous situations--she adapts very rapidly. Couple this with the fact that she has a really athletic, fit, body and I just can't see her freaking out about being exposed.
As far as angi kai, yes, the outfits are rather conservative--with the sole *exception* of the agni kai. That seems to have a purpose to me: it's a pure duel, without prevarication. As a ritual, and because fire nation uniforms are completely gender neutral, I have to imagine females would also be topless for the agni kai. This isn't just because I'd be amused at her "with the girls exposed" (as you so nicely put it 
As far as the beach episode... well, I can't see the royal family going for some regular outings *except* on an island only accessible by the nobility. I mean, this is a feudal, absolute monarchy--those kids with the party were the children of an admiral. They'd have to be nobility: there weren't any "career soldiers" from the middle class or anything. Yes, it's odd that they didn't recognize them--but this is an eastern monarchy, not a Western sort. Perhaps they hold court differently, and have a more hieratic view of their monarchy (cf. the pharaohs or the Roman emperors after Diocletian) and thus don't have regular access to them, or they're obscured by shadow and whatnot. Also, those kids looked like idiots. That's part of it.
She's a princess. It's impossible that her training would be purely militaristic--she went to the Fire Academy for Girls, after all. Why gender segregate a purely military school? It must be an elite private school, with all that it entails. I don't know--she's shown a lot of poise otherwise. I can buy her not understanding male/female interaction due to age and inexperience, but being a complete bumbler too? That was overkill.
Hmm. So do you think she'd tempt, but not actually do anything? Whisper in someone's ear for example, instead of, say, pulling their hand to her breast? And then once she got what she wanted, she'd not pull through? What if the person wanted her end of the bargain first? Would she go to THAT extreme? Is she *that* ambitious? The show would seem to suggest yes, but she's never been in this situation before...
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Yeah, an exhibitionist is excited by the act of being seen. I don't think she'd freak out over being exposed more that she's likely to be annoyed by her own inital reaction. It's just not something I see her being comfortable with for several years.
Well, I dunno. There isn't anything particularly UNconvervative in men fighting shirtless. An Agni Kai strikes me not as being bound in ritual but as having a strict set of rules and expectations. Kinda like a kendo match. I can't see tradition overriding practicality in potentially fatal dual. *grins* No, I can totally tell that you have put a lot of thought into it. That's partly why this is a fun conversation. ^_^
I kinda picture Ember Island being. rather like the Fire Nation version of the Hamptons. It's possible that the boys were minor nobility. I agree that they were idiots. XDD
Even if the Fire Nation royal family has a much less public lifestyle, there is not way that Zuko's scarring and banishment wouldn't have spread like wildfire on grapevine. If there is one thing nobility loves it's gossip.
Well, going to an all-girls school would only compound her inexperience. She's probably never dealt with boys her age that weren't activally kissing her ass. Akward flirting is pretty normal for a 14-15 yo. No one really does it well their first time.
Yeah, I don't think she'd need to actually do anything. Empty promises and leading someone on can be very effective. Why pull someone's hand to your breast when you can acheive just as much with a glance and a brush of the hand? Less is more. I don't think she'd need to deliver on her end. Depending on the situation that can actually decrease the amount of control she would have. I think she is that ambitious. If she saw it as something that would play to her favor I don't think she'd hesitate.
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Yay Avatar! I love this show and I think Azula is nicely captured in this!!
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Thank you hon! I love the new icon, btw.
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ur right about the mouth, looks like she's about to kiss you or carry on a friendly conversation instead of electrocute you with lightning... well aside from that you did perfect! i always thought Azula had a soft body, its only her personality and her face that gives away her evil nature. great job and keep up the good work! *watches*
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*nods* I always thought that Azula was really pretty (like her mom) and that it's her personality that makes her hard. I wanted to draw her relaxed but I don't think it projected enough control. Oh well. Notes for next time. XD
Oh wow! A watch? Thank you so much!
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ur welcome! X3 um... you could probably just rework the mouth and maybe the eyes, give her that hard azula look yet keep her soft body? idk, just a suggestion.
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Totally noted. Since it's trad media, it's reallllly hard to tweak afterwards, but I plan to draw her again (probably in the beach outfit) and I hope to capture her better then. I really like the "soft body" comment. It's really accurate for her.
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ikr? well it's a great piece!
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You did such a great job on this~ I love your coloring. |D
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This coloring is really amazing for pencils! Not only for pencils, this is awesome! Shaning and colours, just perfect!
I love the background, her hands and her cloths too.
Really, this is very good!
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Thank you very much! It was quite a bit of fun. Btw, you have a lovely gallery. ^_^
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Thanks
I hope I will be better in the future. I have a long way.
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I love it when people do stuff in traditional mediums, and this is pretty darned spiffy. "Softer" Azula tends to throw me, but I like this one.
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Thank you! Traditional is my fav. Softer Azula throws me too. I love her crazy and it's ooc. I'm glad you like it. ^_^
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The colors in this are beautiful, and everything is so smooth!
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It's nice to see Azula actually looking normal every now and ten. Heck, she doesn't even look like she's planning anything evil at the moment. Rare indeed.
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XDD Seriously! Not-currently-plotting is almost out of character.
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Well hey, this could be after she got out of the crazy house (that's the official term, I believe), so maybe she's actually a bit more centered now.
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She has been meditating and raking her zen garden. *exhales and yoga poses*
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Ah yes Azula off of Avatar... I loved watching that show myself. It brings back good ol memories just looking at this drawing. Once again good job on capturing a characters essence
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Well dont I feel special lol. Same sentiment when it comes to all the amazing art you do.
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