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TinkerTanker44432 β€” Panzer IV Medium Tank(T-34 Turret) (ALT History)

Published: 2015-09-26 02:56:12 +0000 UTC; Views: 3547; Favourites: 36; Downloads: 17
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Description In this different timeline The T-34/85 came out sooner (Went into action in 1943 instead of 1944), and the Germans retaliated with their Panzer IV's (Since the Panther has not been built yet). One Tank Commander by the Name Keith (Fictional dude) Decided to "up gun" his tank. He saw that the T-34/85 had the same turret ring size as the Panzer IV's and decided since his turret was badly damaged he needed a new one any way, so he ordered Engineers to replaces the turret of his tank with the one of a destroyed T-34/85 that had a intact, and functional turret. The tank performed well but the turret rotation was slow and not very cooperative, so he had the tank shipped back to Germany to get the turret figured out. The high command told him to put a normal turret back, but he did not, and had the factory work out the problems. This became popular since the 85 mm gun was much better the the 75 mm gun on the Panzer IV. The idea was so popular that 50 other Panzer IV crews had this same modification done to their tanks as well. The High Command stopped trying to stop them and let them continue seeing that they are still doing their job. Just to make things better for them they had all Modified Panzer IV's put in the same division. The idea swarmed over to other countries as well, ounce they found a tank with the same turret ring size, and the turret was still working they swapped their damaged turret for that one. These tank later became called the "Ugly tanks" since the turret 9/10 didn't match with the hull.

(Thanks to Teodor from JuniorGeneral.Com for the T-34 Turret, and Panzer IV chassis... I don't care how stupid and how unrealistic this would be i like it and it looks cool... Any know how wide the Panzer III's turret ring is?)
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Arklyte84826 [2019-09-10 15:36:52 +0000 UTC]

Not so much alt history as a proof that you can mount Kwk36 on top of Pz.IV... but about that later.

Description is something I wouldn't want to touch and just going to highlight that soviet 85 mm had really shitty shells so it had comparable penetration to Pz.IV's 75mm with AP shell and similar explosive equivalent in HE shells. Yes, soviet shells were THAT shitty. Not to mention that Pz.IV was already at a limit of its suspension, that's why it hadn't gotten the Schmalturm turret in the end despite once again small difference in turret ring diameter. The rest of the text is just... ugh

However, we know that they had similar turret rings and we also know that on a few T-34/85's soviets had drilled the barrel to get it to 88mm to allow the tanks to use spare captured Kwk36 shells. It required the addition of muzzle break, but this little combination shows that it was possible to design a turret for Pz.IV that would have housed not only Panther's long ass 75mm, but also Kwk 36 with little to no trouble. IF suspension would have been updated before that.

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TinkerTanker44432 In reply to Arklyte84826 [2019-09-10 20:14:42 +0000 UTC]

This is one of my older deviations, so I wouldn't use this as an example of what I'm currently capable of. I also like your little info dump, gonna have to research into shitty 85mm shells, and you may have given me an idea for a future tank design.

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Keeper-of-Stars [2019-07-29 21:58:19 +0000 UTC]

This is really cool, I've never seen anything like it before.

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TinkerTanker44432 In reply to Keeper-of-Stars [2019-07-30 01:54:29 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! It's an oldy that needs an update.

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Azores-1994 [2017-02-03 07:41:21 +0000 UTC]

That's actually an amazing concept. Love it.

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TinkerTanker44432 In reply to Azores-1994 [2017-02-03 12:45:40 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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Six95 [2015-11-02 21:05:53 +0000 UTC]

Great ideas, made this on blender for you
six95.deviantart.com/art/Panze…

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TinkerTanker44432 In reply to Six95 [2015-11-03 03:26:34 +0000 UTC]

That is some fine work. Thanks man.

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COLT731 [2015-09-26 03:30:22 +0000 UTC]

Interesting content.

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TinkerTanker44432 In reply to COLT731 [2015-09-26 12:22:07 +0000 UTC]

thankyou.

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