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Published: 2019-12-08 11:26:22 +0000 UTC; Views: 772; Favourites: 22; Downloads: 1
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Description This is a more recent look at flying geckos. All of them have a kind of air bubble filled with a special gas, which allows them to more effectively hang in the air. The skeleton is very thin, mainly consisting of cartilage.

1) Striped lizard balloon. It has large broad, pectoral fin-like fish, hind limbs that act like wings. They also have a wide flat tail and wide forelegs.

2) Long-tailed flat gecko. The gecko itself has a small flat body and a very darny flat tail, which is also quite mobile.

3) The fifth lobed-tailed dragon. Like other flying geckos, he has a very flat tail, a flat body and wide flat paws, moving which he is able to make swings. An interesting feature of them is that by moving their limbs, they are thus able to increase their temperature, and the air bubble, together with the air cavities in the tissues and cats, is able to hold heated air, which also allows you to make yourself less dependent on the temperature of the surrounding space .

4) and 5) Spotted false fish. A species of flying geckos that are very similar to ray-finned fish. Like swifts, they spend almost their entire life in the air, eating insects. Among them there are also species that can hang in the air. They move along the branches of trees due to the moving fingers of their hind legs.
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Preradkor [2019-12-08 12:47:08 +0000 UTC]

Interesting. But skyglider tail "fin" is vertical, not horizontal.


But to spend entire life in air creature must have either very large wing surface comparing to body weigth (like swift), or be as light as air. This is a picture showing how much lighter than air gas is needed to lift a human a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews… So skygliders would need to have alike big hydrogen ballon inside them to be able to really fly and spend entire life in air. Of course rubber from these ballons also have its own weight and skyglider would have muscles and skin instead of that rubber, but still, its internal ballon must be very big to work efficiently.


Thats the problem with skyglider in earth atmosphere. When i First drawed them, their balloons were much smaller compared to rest of the body. And later I seen picture like this, how big ballon is needed to lift a human. And I understood, that balloon must occupy more than 95% of skyglider body volume to enable it to float in air. Of course in denser atmosphere balloon could be much smaller to lift animal, but on Earth atmosphere density have no chances to change significantly.

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Vollie93439024 In reply to Preradkor [2019-12-08 13:35:37 +0000 UTC]

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Preradkor In reply to Vollie93439024 [2019-12-08 13:49:26 +0000 UTC]

Well, jaws are very important bones. Without it its hard to catch food.

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Vollie93439024 In reply to Preradkor [2019-12-08 14:51:54 +0000 UTC]

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Preradkor In reply to Vollie93439024 [2019-12-08 15:14:32 +0000 UTC]

Jaws are most univesal food processing organ. Of course they can be modified for example into piercing-sucking organ like mosquito or spiders have, but it would limit availible food to very specialized ones, like blood, tree sap or nectar. Jaws enable to eat various food, like various small animals, fruits or even leaves. And they would not make swallowing prey too hard. Birds have no problem with swallowing big prey. Shipworm is not very active and dont need much energy, but skygliders would have big energy needs.

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Vollie93439024 In reply to Preradkor [2019-12-08 17:49:24 +0000 UTC]

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Preradkor In reply to Vollie93439024 [2019-12-08 18:01:04 +0000 UTC]

But what cells with hydrogen would help? I guess muscles with hydrogen bubbles in them probably would be lighter, but also more soft and weaker. Whole body would become very sponge like and easy to rip apart. Single ballon, which can be used as animal skeleton can work better. Something like this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPGgl5…


As flattened they would have very little controll of their flying direction, they would be carried by wind. Fish shape would enable them to actively propel themselves in air.

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Vollie93439024 In reply to Preradkor [2019-12-08 19:28:38 +0000 UTC]

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Preradkor In reply to Vollie93439024 [2019-12-08 21:49:56 +0000 UTC]

Well, i guess yes, but balloon occupies almost entire their body and is much bigger comparing to all other organs. In fact they are more like ballon with tiny organs on its lower side than animal with ballon inside them.

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Vollie93439024 In reply to Preradkor [2019-12-09 04:44:01 +0000 UTC]

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Preradkor In reply to Vollie93439024 [2019-12-09 18:05:40 +0000 UTC]

Rather expand area of balloon. Look how little cabin of the zeppelin (or in this case blimp) is compared to ballon: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia… Skygliders would need very similar proportion between organs and baloon, like this blimb has between cabin and baloon.

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Vollie93439024 In reply to Preradkor [2019-12-10 04:42:19 +0000 UTC]

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Preradkor In reply to Vollie93439024 [2019-12-10 05:58:26 +0000 UTC]

To push something from the air quite large surfaces are needed. I dont thing it would be possible for them to move with skin contractions. And idea is they had vertical feathery sail on tail before they managed to control direction they fly.

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Vollie93439024 In reply to Preradkor [2019-12-10 14:28:16 +0000 UTC]

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Preradkor In reply to Vollie93439024 [2019-12-14 22:05:11 +0000 UTC]

I seen last drawing. All their organs should be located of course not in the middle of ballon, but on belly side of it. It would make them float in correct position, belly-down.

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Vollie93439024 In reply to Preradkor [2019-12-15 10:49:48 +0000 UTC]

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