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How wonderful it is to get a wonderful comment about how wonderful it is - I wonder! 
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Thwe answer of the questionof "What we are" is; We are human...
Nice shot
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Which can be both a very deep - or a very empty answer...
Thank youΒ Β
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The game?
ZagraΕabym w to kiedyΕ.
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I travel as much as I can. (Which is much according to some standards and little according to other.)
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According to my standards it's probably very much 
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Oh... 
(I don't believe it, I really don't! Maybe you are a bit disappointed about how they came out now and don't see that more of them have potential?)
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Well, I usually had exams when my parents were going somewhere so I couldn't join them. And travelling on my own is usually boring. I rather visit friends instead of seeing a city on my own
(It's true! Apart from the one I uploaded they are all boring. They might qualify as stereotypical vacation photos but they're either technically bad (I was lacking a tripod for example, which makes night shots and long exposures a bit more challenging) or composition and content are just boring. I played around a bit with panoramas but now that I know where I should have taken them and how I'm no longer there.)
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So... your parents were usually going somewhere when you had exams? Man, that sucks :/
I like seeing places on my own. I see more and photograph more when I walk alone than when I walk with somebody.
(I still don't believe nothing interesting can be done with at least some of them. That sounds like a lame excuse for not doing anything with them! 
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Yeah, it sucked a bit. But now I no longer live near them anyway, so it's a moot point by now
Maybe I would look more for interesting things when I'm alone, but that's not nice for someone you travel with.
(I do insist
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Well, if I travel with someone I don't go all "screw you, I'm gonna go artsy-fartsy with my compact camera and you ain't gonna spoil my view, muggle" or whatever, I just like to grab the chance of walking alone when it appears
(That would be fun! 
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Yeah, that's something I try to do as well. But extended solitary explorations aren't too nice for the person you're travelling with either because they might ask themselves why you both are there when one always is away taking photos
(Then I'd ask the same question again like in our other discussion
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Yeah, that's what sucks about travelling with one person
(But I don't have to answer again, do I?
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So you basically plan out beforehand how mean you want to people and if it's a group then it's basically okay?
(I may get around uploading the images later today, then. But for now ... work
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Hmm. I just... try to assess how much it will matter if I go on a stroll alone. If I'm with one person or a group of friends, of course it will matter more, it gets personal. But if I'm with some anonymous group, they don't really care about me leaving for a while... why should I?
(Sure. Whenever it will be suitable for you!)
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Well, with anonymous groups I wouldn't care at all either
But when I'm away with friends (or maybe just one) then it's quite a bit harder to say Β»Hey, why don't you stay at the hotel all alone while I go around taking pictures of everything instead of spending time with you.Β«
Fun fact: I still didn't comment on the picture at all 
I like the silhouette very much and the fact that the two people are only visible on second glance 
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obligatory attempt at actually saying something about the image
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Yeah, I know. I don't do that, unless I see something interesting and I know I'm not going to visit that place anytime soon - then I'm doing the "hey, wait a minute" thing or tell my friends not to wait for me and I catch up with them when I'm done with my artsy fartsy moment. But it doesn't happen that often, when I'm walking with friends I'm more focused on the conversation or just being with them than looking around for things to photograph.
(I have a strange feeling we're almost going in circles in this thread.)
That's fine, really, nobody says you have to do that
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Oh, then let's just break the circle before this continues in all eternity
Well, while I might not have had to comment I gladly do
Although sometimes I don't know what to write
And sometimes I'm writing something completely different.
Why did you want to delete this, though? Seems better than the sunflowers to me.
Close enough? What did you have in mind exactly?
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Why I wanted to delete it? It doesn't seem to work for people. And it's not one of my personal faves either, so 
Hmm. I think sunflowers came out much better on the visual side. Maybe this shot has something behind it - a thought or feeling - that sunflowers don't have, but overall I don't know if I would call it better.
Littleness. Meaninglessness. The people don't seem lost to me, they seem... unimportant. Tiny pieces in a huge scenery. It's a realization we, people, don't really like, do we? It won't help us find a job, find love, find friends, find happiness, find anything in this world to know how little and meaningless we are. How little it would mean if we disappeared from our little place on the scene. But it's true and it's there. Perhaps at least art can take care of such unpragmatic, useless thoughts.
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You know, if I had to delete every picture with less than 50 favs, my gallery would be very empty
Well, that's probably the distinction between how we take photos again
As for your interpretation ... I guess deep inside we know how tiny and meaningless we are. We just don't want to admit it, or even consciously think about it. It just takes a look up into the night sky to change that, though. In thus case the two tiny figures all but disappear against the trees and the sky (which fittingly takes up a large portion of the image), further cementing their unimportance.
I'm sorry, I'm rambling random things
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Um... hmm... well...Β it's more about views-to-faves ratio in the first hours after uploading, which tells me about the picture's impact.Β But maybe I am a bit too strict with my gallery, you're not the first person to tell me this.Β
And I just realized I didn't submit it to any group... I'm definitely too harsh for that piece, I didn't really give it a chance.
Well, pretty things are pleasant to look at, so it's sort of a good deed to make them
With the light pollution in the cities, not so many people can really dive into the starry night sky...
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Okay, regarding views and favs you probably have different expectations, especially with 29Β +Β 28Β +Β 24Β +Β 21 watchers and
who knows how many Daily Deviations (at least two, if I recall correctly). On the other hand, I'm probably not strict enough (and I have moved a few more deviations to scraps earlier today β I often judge the subjective quality of a picture by those that were taken the same day or imported in the same batch, but in based on the others I have already uploaded β which means that there are some bad ones in my gallery that only make sense because they're not the worst from a single day).
While pretty things can be pleasant to look at, they often lack any vision apart from seeing them in the first place. It's more documenting the world around oneself instead of seeing, perceiving it and painting it with light, so to speak. Alas, I won't submit any photos of pretty flowers into Photojournalism, though
Indeed, light pollution is nasty, although we still can see some stars. By now I live in a smaller village next to a small-ish city which can make the night sky still very pretty (unless, like now, covered by clouds). But I still remember one night at the beach looking up the sky with binoculars and being amazed by how many more stars you suddenly see. I might have been a lot younger back then
But generally agreed β pretty things might look pretty, but ultimately they are ephemeral. Like cat pictures on the internet, I guess
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And I delete them furiously or move to Scraps if they don't work.
Haha, pretty flowers in Photojournalism
In the Bieszczady mountains the sky is very clear and starry, too 
HOW CAN YOU SAY CAT PICTURES ARE EPHEMERAL. THEY ARE IMMORTAL, EPIC AND ULTIMATE. AND AWW.
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I probably should delete and move to scraps more often
And what's wrong with pretty flowers in Photojournalism?
As for sunsets ... I have 800+ photos tagged with Sonnenuntergang and none with Sterne (although that may be due to the fact that the tag doesn't exist yet). So they're probably indeed more frequent. I should take photos more often, of both sunsets and stars. But that means going outside *shivers*
I'd say the amount of cat pictures on the internet doubles every few months (after all, the internet exists solely to transmit pictures of felines, right?). There will never be a shortage (similar to porn, I guess). So most people discover new cat photos frequently while forgetting the old ones. I'd say that's the very definition of ephemeral.
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Nah. What for? I do it, because it's in line with my motivations for doing and sharing my work. What purpose would it have for you?
Photojournalism requires a relevant news story behind. Sure, if you prepared photos for a news material about a fight or murder and you'd show a photo with pretty flowers covered with blood, it would make sense
Well, the problem with taking photos of stars... actually, there are so many problems with it that I feel it's unnecessary to get deeper into the subject - it should be quite obvious why sunsets are better for photographic purposes than stars.
That's not true.Β Β I refuse such heartless argumentation! Cat pictures may disappear from our minds, but they stay in our hearts - forever.Β Β
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What are your motivations for doing and sharing your work, then? And for it would have a purpose of a cleaner gallery with less older, worse works (I saw that you deleted everything once in the past).
Mh, pretty flowers covered in blood might also work for Horror & Macabre or Conceptual, I guess. But I guess I stick to unbloodied pretty flowers, if at all. The poppies are nice currently. Alas, little sun and plenty of rain, so my motivation to go outside and take photos is a little low.
Technically photos of sunsets are also photos of a star
Of course cats stay in our hearts forever. But that requires a very big heart. And it would meow occasionally with that many cats within. Which might get a little weird.
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I have different motivations for doing and sharing. I do, because I can't live without it. I know it may sound stupid
I share, because I like appreciation. This is even more stupid, but I really do! I like to see the "wow" reactions - or any true reactions, really - to those little pieces of my own world which are my creations. It's... my way back to humanity. It connects me with other people on a beautiful level, where everybody gains something.
So, my gallery is a connection between me - or better: my works - and other people. If the picture I shared doesn't work - the connection doesn't work as intended - it doesn't need to be in the gallery. Does this make any sense to you?
...Is your motivation to go outside ever high?
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It does make sense. But I guess if that was my motivation my gallery would be empty sans one or two works, maybe
Which would be unfortunate because I do like plenty of the pictures I post. And usually I don't care terribly much whether others do so too. That being said, a few 
You on the other hand are probably still a little too harsh on yourself, even though your gallery then is left with only a handful of truly stunning works (hey, there's a reason I watch you, apart from our conversations
My motivation to go outside was at least higher when there were no cats or other people at home
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See. In such case, submitting pictures to group would probably do you better than deleting them
Hmm. Maybe. Maybe not. Time will be the best judge.
Oh, and I'm grateful for your reactions and like them a lot! Keep them coming
I'm guessing your girlfriend is back home then! Good to hear
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But I wouldn't know which groups. There are so many. And when they turn me down I just think that I'm not good enough at all and just give up again. That's why I usually accept any group submissions, but won't submit for myself because I'm a very poor judge of what should be in any given group. I guess.
OK, I will continue then
And thank you, but it's raining currently; hopefully the rest of the weekend will be better
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Just whatever groups
The more active watchers/members they have (like #UnseenPhotographers , #Photography-Fans ), the better. The more unique (like #non-real or #NADCREATIONS ), the better.Β The more prestigious (like #SkyAndNatureClub , #The-Scenery ), the better - although more difficult at the same time.
Last but not the least: the less you care about declines, the better.
(And since you're worried about them spamming your message center, here's a little piece of advice for you. Go to Friends -> Manage Friends -> untick journals and deviations of the groups you don't want in your message center ->Β voilΓ ! No unwanted spam.)
Oh, but isn't it nice to stay home sometimes while rain rustles behind the windows? Especially with... cats around?
Oh well. Not so long left, not so long left...
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*makes list of groups* I will try to remember
May I ask how often your works are declined?
Well, I feel uncomfortable with prolonged periods of silence and the longer it persists the stranger it seems to re-establish contact somehow. I hope I don't have to do so again
Cats are of course always s good reason to stay at home. Maybe even the best reason.
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To mark groups which you'd like to submit to (and be able to do it, because often you can't submitΒ if you're not a member). I also had doubts, but in the end I didn't even look at the journals or deviations of these groups... effect was the same, it was just one level of bitchiness lower. Less organized bitchiness, so to speak.
When I submit a picture, at least 2-4 out of 20 groups declines it. Every time. And no, it's not always the same groups which decline.
Whatever feels suitable for you
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Oh, that makes sense, indeed.
Mh, if it were always the same I would have said they hated you (hard as that would be to imagine).
I think a few comments here and there or a note or messages via other media feel suitable enough. I do enjoy our conversations
Did I mention you should greet your cat from me?
(Random note: Remember my brush attempts yesterday that were too visible (to my eyes at least)? I forgot that I applied a blue colour to them as well as the exposure edjustment. No wonder did the result turn out too blue. That being said, I think I got the image working now. Without brushes, only gradients and global adjustments (as usual for me)
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Hate? Not necessarily. I might not have fulfilled the group's requirements - I rarely check them, really - or submit to a wrong folder or something. I don't know. Most groups don't tell you what was wrong with your submission.
Oh, I forgot to add that also every time there's also 3-5 groups which neither accept nor decline my submission. It just hangs in the air until it expires. That's a hidden decline, I think.
Not at all. Once again, what am I supposed to do?
(So, are you gonna finally upload it?
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Oh, so you just blindly submit to dozens of groups without even checking whether they would want your image? And I'm stupid enough to actually read all the group descriptions and figuring out whether they would even want to accept something. Stupid me
Just cuddle and pet her
(I will, once I figure out the correct category ... and groups to submit to ... aaaah ... so many decisions.)
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No, I do read them... briefly...
I guess she'll just think it's all from me. Oh well. I hope you don't mind that I'll get the credit?
(Easy, easy. One step at a time and you'll be fine.)
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Understandable. But to me that means offloading work that I could be doing to others. I don't like others doing my work. But perhaps you are right.
Well, since a cat is happy I guess I can live with you getting all the credit
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It is their work. And I'm not overloading them. I think. I never pissed off anyone here, so I guess I know my limits.
Aww. Again, words of a true cat lover.
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